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Postby DBJ » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:42 am

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DBJ wrote:We're talking about 2011 here, it was not 'complicated' at all. Protesters demanded democratic reforms and were shot down. End of story.


The democratic reforms are no good if Syria would vote a Muslim Brotherhood into power. Egypt was saved from the brink by a coup. Mubarak should never have been deposed.

The muslim brotherhood was losing support at a rapid pace and doing a better job at discrediting themselves than any of their opponents could have done. They wouldn't have survived the next election.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:42 am

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Greater Hunnia wrote:
Of course.

"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.

Silly Liriena, Your logic has no power here against the Almighty Argument of JewsDidIt.

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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:49 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.

Silly Liriena, Your logic has no power here against the Almighty Argument of JewsDidIt.

Wait, so the corporations and the banks are working together with the commies?

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Postby Greater Hunnia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:50 am

Liriena wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:
Of course.

"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.


In practice, cultural marxism is that leftist, liberal, marxist """""""""""intellectuals""""""""""" indoctrinate impressionable, young people, and crate a brainwashed minority who feel entitled to dictate the way of life to society as a whole. The said entitled minority is enjoying the support of globalist capitalists such as George Soros, and with the media, and scientific institutions under their absolute controll, they can easily character assassinate anyone who poses a threat to them, fake statistics and even scientific researches to support their narrative, and censor those that don't. Later these indoctrinated people train the next generation and so the cycle starts anew. And the saddest part is that a bunch of people who take part in this are just overly naive do-gooders who are unable to realise that while they think that they are fighting agaisnt oppression, they are actually oppressors themselves, and they somehow think that destorying the pillairs on which society was built is somehow good.

You say cultural marxism is bullshit. I wish it was. But unfortunately, reality shows that it's not. The same can't be said about most liberal theories.
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:53 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.


In practice, cultural marxism is that leftist, liberal, marxist """""""""""intellectuals""""""""""" indoctrinate impressionable, young people, and crate a brainwashed minority who feel entitled to dictate the way of life to society as a whole. The said entitled minority is enjoying the support of globalist capitalists such as George Soros, and with the media, and scientific institutions under their absolute controll, they can easily character assassinate anyone who psoes a threat to them, fake statistics and even scientific researches to support their narrative. Later these indoctrinated people train the next generation and so the cycle starts anew. And the saddest part is that a bunch of people who take part in this are just overly naive do-gooders who are unable to realise that while they think that they are fighting agaisnt oppression, they are actually oppressors themselves, and they somehow think that destorying the pillairs on which society was built is somehow good.

You say cultural marxism is bullshit. I wish it was. But unfortunately, reality shows that it's not. The same can't be said about most liberal theories.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:54 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Silly Liriena, Your logic has no power here against the Almighty Argument of JewsDidIt.

Wait, so the corporations and the banks are working together with the commies?

They're all Juden so ergo.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:57 am

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Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.

Everyone knows that Marx did all of his writing in a little black dress and frilly lingerie.

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Postby Haritopia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:01 am

Liriena wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:
So it's basically like "racism", "xenophobia", "islamophobia", "homophobia", "bigot(ry)", "transophobia", "fatphopbia", "fascist" (as an insult)?

Not really. Those words can be misused, but they are not inherently vacuous.


Not just that they can be misused, but they are misused daily even. When put against someone who can't put up an argument against you, such a person would be likely to call you out as a "racist", "bigot",... and so on.
Out of all those terms, the most misused would be "fascist". Today, liberal oriented people and leftists, are always on to call everything they dislike as fascist. Neoliberalism, capitalism, racism, homophobia, it all gets turned into "fascist" in their mouths, while fascism itself has nothing to do with it. It is used so often, that some people actually have begun to believe it, not caring to learn about Fascism or anything like that, just repeat the phrases they heared over and over again. With such a mentality, people began to believe Fascism to be right wing, pro-capitalist, racist even, which is far from the truth.

It is the same with "cultural marxism". The problem at hand is rather the neoliberalism, globalisation and relentless capitalism, which plagues the average man and his country. I would go so far as to say that the Spanish Fascist leader Jose Antonio P.d.R was more influenced by Marx than those which we today accusse of "cultural marxism".

Be it as it may, the problem is out there, changing it's name will matter so little. Be you a fascist, socialist, or what ever, it is a problem of all Europeans. Everything is in danger, not just our daily lives, not just our culture, not just the memory of our ancestors, but our future and the future of our fellow European. It would be time to, for a moment at least, look over the divides, and struggle together to restore order, faith in a better tomorrow and the continued existance of the European cultural identity.

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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:04 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Wait, so the corporations and the banks are working together with the commies?

They're all Juden so ergo.

I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:05 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:"""""""""""intellectuals"""""""""""

Punctuation marks indicate things about how the sentence would be spoken aloud. In this context, a single set of quotation marks would indicate a sceptical tone of voice, and probably the finger quotes gesture. With that in mind, exactly what are you trying to convey by eleven sets of quotation marks? Is this you right now?

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Postby Greater Hunnia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:08 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:They're all Juden so ergo.

I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.


For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:10 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.


For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.

Something about all Jews being responsible for killing Jesus, or something silly like that.

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Postby Nervium » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.

Everyone knows that Marx did all of his writing in a little black dress and frilly lingerie.


Confusing Marx with Wagner.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:13 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.


For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.


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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:15 am

Nervium wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Everyone knows that Marx did all of his writing in a little black dress and frilly lingerie.


Confusing Marx with Wagner.

Implying they weren't secretly the same person.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:15 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.


For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.

But that's the thing right? Jewsdidit is basically all that this "Cultural Marxism" boils down to.

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*peeks to see if Le Pen is behind OP's computer screen*
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:17 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:
For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.

But that's the thing right? Jewsdidit is basically all that this "Cultural Marxism" boils down to.

Not just Jews. Communist Jews.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:17 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Confusing Marx with Wagner.

Do I want to know what Nietzsche wore?

Whip cream on his nipples and chocolate syrup down his back.

Guess where the cherry was.
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Postby Haritopia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:18 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I find it funny when anti-semites yell about "JEWISH BOLSHEVISM!!!" because it was their actions that caused the Jews to support revolutionary groups like the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewi ... ian_Empire

They made their own enemy.


For some reason Jews were always persecuted, regardless where they settled. I wonder why. But it's a different topic from the one this thread is about.


The reason could be that, in those times, due to a lack of having a real homeland to settle in, their population did tend to have a parallel society and keep to their own culture. Without ever fully integrating into a country, they were, in those harsh times, viewed as hostile foreigners.
Persecution wasn't always the norm, some countries, even great empires of of their time, were good and even welcoming toward them.

Then again, just like any other migrant group, you had examples of total integration.

In the modern context tho, anti-semitism is so often based on the thought of a massive conspiracy going on. I find it silly to shift the whole blame for something on to a small population... For what about the other bankers, the other communists, who are European or of other descent? Are they free of guilt?
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Postby Italios » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:20 am

The Great Devourer of All wrote:*peeks to see if Le Pen is behind OP's computer screen*

Greater Hunnia wrote:I have seen it with my very own eyes. The so called "refugees", they are not thankfull for the free shelter, free food, free medical care, and even free internet,

Yup, something's definitely afoot. Clearly not everyone is as deserving as Le Pen.
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Postby British Prussia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:20 am

Mushet wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Do I want to know what Nietzsche wore?

Whip cream on his nipples and chocolate syrup down his back.

Guess where the cherry was.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:32 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Not just Jews. Communist Jews.

Communist Jews who run banks, for some reason.

To get the gelt and shekels, obvs.

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