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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:26 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Missouri is not south of the Mason Dixon. Coming from a Virginian, I've never met anyone who considers Missouri the South.

That's because MO is considered Mid-Western. Even though Southern MO does has a few similarities with the South, particularly with religion. But no, MO is most definitely not Southern.

Yeah. Even now, in Colorado, no one considers Missouri the South... I've always thought the consensus was that it was the Midwest.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:26 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:And I consider any slave state with team in the SEC to be Southerner.

You're allowed to be wrong. *shrugs*

They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:27 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:That's because MO is considered Mid-Western. Even though Southern MO does has a few similarities with the South, particularly with religion. But no, MO is most definitely not Southern.

Yeah. Even now, in Colorado, no one considers Missouri the South... I've always thought the consensus was that it was the Midwest.


You would be correct. It is considered Midwest.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:28 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:And I consider any slave state with team in the SEC to be Southerner.


Well, if you are not from the South yourself, then does your opinion of what is South and what isn't really matter?

Then one can say the same about the North or just about any region for that matter.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:28 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You're allowed to be wrong. *shrugs*

They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.


They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:29 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.


They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.

No, but they were historically.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:30 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.


They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.

They just don't sound like Midwesterners to me unless one were to put the likes of Michigan and Minnesota in frickin Canada.
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:31 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You're allowed to be wrong. *shrugs*

They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.


And we've seen racist cops shoot people in Chicago. Racism is everywhere. Most of these racist shootings are happening up north. The restaurant incident was up north. I still believe that racism is evacuating the south because most white southerners are ashamed of the history of slavery and want to make a change. Most of my coworkers and bosses have been black women. We might have been slow getting here, but in my opinion, the south (maybe excluding certain parts of Mississippi) has done a complete 180 in terms of racial prejudice.
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Postby Jochistan » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:31 pm

New Benian Republic wrote:Cant we all just embrace multiculturalism and be happy sharing our land with one another regardless of color language and the waste of alcohol.

Is this snark? I'm so used to hearing anti multiculturalism sentiment on NSG.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:31 pm

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They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.

No, but they were historically.


Depends on what your definition of historically means, I guess. As far as the Civil War is concerned, MO was part of the North, Geilinor. It was a slave state, but it stayed with the Union.

In common parlance, the South is the area south of the Mason-Dixon line, which MO is north of.
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Postby Armanischa » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:31 pm

When I was young, my family moved to England from Romania. Me and my siblings only had a very basic understanding of English, but we were able to adapt. My siblings and I were often ridiculed for being from another country, and for speaking a different language. It makes me sad to see a story like this, because I feel like I can relate to this woman, who is proud to speak her native language, but also proud to live in a new country. The patron who attacked this woman should definitely be shamed for her action, because it is very terrible. I hope that things like this stop happening soon, but I am doubtful.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:32 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You're allowed to be wrong. *shrugs*

They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.

...yeah? As it did in Boston and Chicago. What's your point?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:32 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Urran wrote:
Well, if you are not from the South yourself, then does your opinion of what is South and what isn't really matter?

Then one can say the same about the North or just about any region for that matter.

As a Southerner by birth and a Midwesterner by residence, that metric puts me in a highly qualified position to say that, no, Missouri is not part of the South, it's part of the Midwest.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:33 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.

They just don't sound like Midwesterners to me unless one were to put the likes of Michigan and Minnesota in frickin Canada.

What do you mean "sound like?" I've been there, and their accents aren't Southern at all either.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:34 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
They aren't culturally Southern, at all, Marisa.

They just don't sound like Midwesterners to me unless one were to put the likes of Michigan and Minnesota in frickin Canada.


Yoopers sound very Canadian to me. I wouldn't call them Canadian, however, they're Michiganite. And if you're talking about accents, it varies greatly on which part of MO you're in. People from the Boothill sound similar to AR. People from the St. Louis area, almost have no accent to speak of.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:34 pm

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New Benian Republic wrote:Cant we all just embrace multiculturalism and be happy sharing our land with one another regardless of color language and the waste of alcohol.

Is this snark? I'm so used to hearing anti multiculturalism sentiment on NSG.

Because you support multiculturalism. You see what you dislike more than what you agree with.
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:35 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They just don't sound like Midwesterners to me unless one were to put the likes of Michigan and Minnesota in frickin Canada.

What do you mean "sound like?" I've been there, and their accents aren't Southern at all either.


Come to think of it, a lot of southerners don't have a full blown accent either, but it comes out when we say certain words. Like "y'all" or "buggie"
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:37 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:They may not be fully culturally southern, but Jim Crow cawed in Missouri just as much as Alabama.


And we've seen racist cops shoot people in Chicago. Racism is everywhere. Most of these racist shootings are happening up north. The restaurant incident was up north. I still believe that racism is evacuating the south because most white southerners are ashamed of the history of slavery and want to make a change. Most of my coworkers and bosses have been black women. We might have been slow getting here, but in my opinion, the south (maybe excluding certain parts of Mississippi) has done a complete 180 in terms of racial prejudice.

I'd like to say the North has also been infiltrated by Southern transplants ever since the invention of the automobile made the Rust Belt. They brought their racism with them.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:38 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Urran wrote:
And we've seen racist cops shoot people in Chicago. Racism is everywhere. Most of these racist shootings are happening up north. The restaurant incident was up north. I still believe that racism is evacuating the south because most white southerners are ashamed of the history of slavery and want to make a change. Most of my coworkers and bosses have been black women. We might have been slow getting here, but in my opinion, the south (maybe excluding certain parts of Mississippi) has done a complete 180 in terms of racial prejudice.

I'd like to say the North has also been infiltrated by Southern transplants ever since the invention of the automobile made the Rust Belt. They brought their racism with them.


You do know that racism wasn't an oddity up North, right? That it was just as alive and well as it was down South? The difference is that in the South, racism was more institutionalized.
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:38 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I'd like to say the North has also been infiltrated by Southern transplants ever since the invention of the automobile made the Rust Belt. They brought their racism with them.


The same can be said of Northern retirees moving down here. Also, it's nice to know that you blame racist cops up north on the south. I guess any racist that ever existed was influenced by the south.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:They just don't sound like Midwesterners to me unless one were to put the likes of Michigan and Minnesota in frickin Canada.


Yoopers sound very Canadian to me. I wouldn't call them Canadian, however, they're Michiganite. And if you're talking about accents, it varies greatly on which part of MO you're in. People from the Boothill sound similar to AR. People from the St. Louis area, almost have no accent to speak of.

That is also true, the majority of the population doesn't sound Southern. But my opinion has been shaped by those from the Boothill.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:39 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yoopers sound very Canadian to me. I wouldn't call them Canadian, however, they're Michiganite. And if you're talking about accents, it varies greatly on which part of MO you're in. People from the Boothill sound similar to AR. People from the St. Louis area, almost have no accent to speak of.

That is also true, the majority of the population doesn't sound Southern. But my opinion has been shaped by those from the Boothill.


Then your opinion is summarily incomplete and inaccurate.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:43 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I'd like to say the North has also been infiltrated by Southern transplants ever since the invention of the automobile made the Rust Belt. They brought their racism with them.


You do know that racism wasn't an oddity up North, right? That it was just as alive and well as it was down South?

It sure was, but the North had it's own forms. Calling Catholics as non-white for example and thus harassing Irish, Polish, and Italians in particular.
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Postby Urran » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:45 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You do know that racism wasn't an oddity up North, right? That it was just as alive and well as it was down South?

It sure was, but the North had it's own forms. Calling Catholics as non-white for example and thus harassing Irish, Polish, and Italians in particular.


And, judging by these racial protests and shootings, it is still alive up north and beginning to die in the south.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:45 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Missouri is not south of the Mason Dixon. Coming from a Virginian, I've never met anyone who considers Missouri the South.

And I consider any slave state with team in the SEC to be Southerner.


SEC, wut?

Missouri was an interesting state because it was a split government during the civil war. It had two governments, their star was on both flags (the confederacy and the union), and there was an intrastate war over the civil war.

However, nobody considers it the "South" proper.
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