Obama's popularity slips for the first time.

[Khadgar]

even worse, democratic congress critters have adopted the fucking stupid goposaur talking points on this too. even in having utter domination, they still feel the need to lick someone's boots.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democratic party.

[Treznor]

even worse, democratic congress critters have adopted the fucking stupid goposaur talking points on this too. even in having utter domination, they still feel the need to lick someone's boots.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democratic party.

Sad, but true.

[Ifreann]

Why the fuck would anyone oppose the closing of Gitmo?

People are fucking idiots mostly. And they are being encouraged by the one thing the GOP is good at - fear mongering.

even worse, democratic congress critters have adopted the fucking stupid goposaur talking points on this too. even in having utter domination, they still feel the need to lick someone's boots.

They could at least lick Obama's, he's on their side.

[Farnhamia]

even worse, democratic congress critters have adopted the fucking stupid goposaur talking points on this too. even in having utter domination, they still feel the need to lick someone's boots.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democratic party.

Sad, but true.

Well, but they've been dazed and confused ever since 1994, when the GOP grabbed control of the House from them. Then there was September 11th, which handed the Republicans an amazingly handy stick with which to beat anyone who opposed anything they said. It took another five years for the electorate to get over that, but by then the Democrats were trained to be very twitchy about anything that might be the least bit controversial. Notice how they're "progressives" not "liberals" now?

I don't think it's stupidity as much as cowardice.

[Treznor]

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democratic party.

Sad, but true.

Well, but they've been dazed and confused ever since 1994, when the GOP grabbed control of the House from them. Then there was September 11th, which handed the Republicans an amazingly handy stick with which to beat anyone who opposed anything they said. It took another five years for the electorate to get over that, but by then the Democrats were trained to be very twitchy about anything that might be the least bit controversial. Notice how they're "progressives" not "liberals" now?

I don't think it's stupidity as much as cowardice.

Either way, it's time we started electing leaders instead of just politicians. I want people more interested in the common good than political capital.

[Al-Aqar]

Cool. Blame the rich when it is the rest of the classes buying all of their products and making them rich. I like the blame dispersion game when it comes to economics. Keyne's as a useful model? That's just too funny. Spending money when you don't have money. That's what got the United States in this mess in the first place. Currently the economy operates similarly to the affect of "just say it's a recession, and boom, recession" stock market model. Until only goods with real value are treated as such, the inevitable booms and busts of the pursuit of the transcendental aesthetic of the masses will cyclically loop again and again. It's easy to blame the economy system instead of everyone who participated in it-namely all of the gleeful consumers who think different. The masses invested in the rich, trying to play the market using the rules that the rich created. That's their loss. Maybe a little less Keyne's and a little more change in the Piggy Bank could have prevented this. But no, we live in a consumerist economy; we must have our goods and have them by yesterday; to hell with real currency, I'll use my plastic card instead. But yeah, lets just blame the rich. It certainly can't be the Gucci Loafers and Coach purses that we are craving. In Bawney Fwank we trust.

I agree with most of this. I am anti-consumerist, I am anti-credit, I am anti-magically-disappearing-money. However, I do believe that the way to fix an economic crisis is to restart the economy with an infusion of capital in the right place. FDR was good at this. Obama... not so much. But since I'm not particularly interested in arguing a tangent about FDR and whether or not he helped end the Great Depression (or whether his economic philosophy was successful), I will stop at agreement. You're right.

And Blouman? The meaning of the R-word is yet another off-topic discussion that I'm not going to be the one to start.