Should we be telling aliens where we live?

[Daburuetchi]

Chances are if there is intelligent alien life out there they probably know about us and choose not to intervene for some reason. Maybe they even visited us in the past and intervened in history. But assuming that intelligent aliens are indeed out there and do not know about us should we really be sending them mixed tapes with our location and biology? It think it's rather naive to believe that an intelligent alien species will want to live in Star Trekesq multi-species harmony with us. I'm not saying we should be completely isolationist but broadcasting where we are seems incredible dangerous. But what do NS goers think? Should we be sending aliens dank mix tapes with our address scribbled on it? Do we really want to show them our favorite spot on the citadel so to speak?

[United Marxist Nations]

>implying we can't just drive them back with our pila
Roman shitposter here

[Daburuetchi]

>implying we can't just drive them back with our pila
Roman shitposter here

Get Alaric Rolled whelp

[New haven america]

Chances are if there is intelligent alien life out there they probably know about us and choose not to intervene for some reason. Maybe they even visited us in the past and intervened in history. But assuming that intelligent aliens are indeed out there and do not know about us should we really be sending them mixed tapes with our location and biology? It think it's rather naive to believe that an intelligent alien species will want to live in Star Trekesq multi-species harmony with us. I'm not saying we should be completely isolationist but broadcasting where we are seems incredible dangerous. But what do NS goers think? Should we be sending aliens dank mix tapes with our address scribbled on it? Do we really want to show them our favorite spot on the citadel so to speak?

Um, that multi-species harmony thing only really happened in the Federation, almost everywhere else was ruled by dominant-species empires/confederations/assemblies.

[Daburuetchi]

Chances are if there is intelligent alien life out there they probably know about us and choose not to intervene for some reason. Maybe they even visited us in the past and intervened in history. But assuming that intelligent aliens are indeed out there and do not know about us should we really be sending them mixed tapes with our location and biology? It think it's rather naive to believe that an intelligent alien species will want to live in Star Trekesq multi-species harmony with us. I'm not saying we should be completely isolationist but broadcasting where we are seems incredible dangerous. But what do NS goers think? Should we be sending aliens dank mix tapes with our address scribbled on it? Do we really want to show them our favorite spot on the citadel so to speak?

Um, that multi-species harmony thing only really happened in the Federation, almost everywhere else was ruled by dominant-species empires/confederations/assemblies.

I am aware of that but most people with a cursory of understanding of Star Trek would not get the reference.

[Shiraan]

Chances are, if a civilization is successful enough to go to other star systems, they achieved that status by stripping resources from planets. Here's hoping they skip over ones with intelligent life.

[The Mourning Star]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

[United Marxist Nations]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

Why?

[New haven america]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

But what would their definition of goodness be?

[Daburuetchi]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

I'm not sure there is a correlation between knowledge and ethics. The Nazis were very technologically advanced and yet that technology was not used for good. Ethics seems like a whole different thing

[The Mourning Star]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

But what would their definition of goodness be?

I think killing and conquering out of greed is primitive. Like if they have such advanced technology they would probably know the best ways of getting the things they need, like fuel, food and all that stuff. Humans just want everything for themselves

[The Krogan]

We already know where you live puny human! Prepare yourselves for our coming! Surrender and die!........ Oh, did I just say that? Whoooooops

[United Marxist Nations]

But what would their definition of goodness be?

I think killing and conquering out of greed is primitive. Like if they have such advanced technology they would probably know the best ways of getting the things they need, like fuel, food and all that stuff. Humans just want everything for themselves

Why do you think that?

[The Mourning Star]

we should! I think the more intelligent a species the more in tuned they are with goodness

I'm not sure there is a correlation between knowledge and ethics. The Nazis were very technologically advanced and yet that technology was not used for good. Ethics seems like a whole different thing

well the nazis are a whole other topic. I don't think they were entirely bad

[Dooom35796821595]

Chances are if there is intelligent alien life out there they probably know about us and choose not to intervene for some reason. Maybe they even visited us in the past and intervened in history. But assuming that intelligent aliens are indeed out there and do not know about us should we really be sending them mixed tapes with our location and biology? It think it's rather naive to believe that an intelligent alien species will want to live in Star Trekesq multi-species harmony with us. I'm not saying we should be completely isolationist but broadcasting where we are seems incredible dangerous. But what do NS goers think? Should we be sending aliens dank mix tapes with our address scribbled on it? Do we really want to show them our favorite spot on the citadel so to speak?

Um, that multi-species harmony thing only really happened in the Federation, almost everywhere else was ruled by dominant-species empires/confederations/assemblies.

Yeah, unless you actually analyse how authoritarian the federation actually are...bunch of space nazis.

As for the OP, the speed of transmissions at light speed means that by the time they reach alien civilisations we'll probably have a substantial empire consisting of hundreds of worlds, or have long since killed ourselves.

[Daburuetchi]

We already know where you live puny human! Prepare yourselves for our coming! Surrender and die!........ Oh, did I just say that? Whoooooops

Genophage time

[United Marxist Nations]

I'm not sure there is a correlation between knowledge and ethics. The Nazis were very technologically advanced and yet that technology was not used for good. Ethics seems like a whole different thing

well the nazis are a whole other topic. I don't think they were entirely bad

Whoa, hang on, what?

[The Mourning Star]

Why do you think that?

it's what I feel makes the most sense. Like for example if we reach a certain level of advancement where we can have anything we want, why would it be at the expense of another race of beings. There are alternatives. Like for example, with humans, we still havent found a way around a lot of ways to sustain ourselves, and so we compete to have the most of what's out there

[New haven america]

I'm not sure there is a correlation between knowledge and ethics. The Nazis were very technologically advanced and yet that technology was not used for good. Ethics seems like a whole different thing

well the nazis are a whole other topic. I don't think they were entirely bad

Wat?

[The Krogan]

We already know where you live puny human! Prepare yourselves for our coming! Surrender and die!........ Oh, did I just say that? Whoooooops

Genophage time

Whoa.... that was hurtful

[Draconikus]

You forget - we've been telling aliens where to find for about 70 years or so. Every radio transmission is a pulse from the beacon indicating "We're here!"
Now, whether aliens could receive any of those transmissions in any sort of meaningful timeframe is debatable.
As for the physical indicators - the probes we keep sending out... Well, assuming an alien picks one up (the odds of which are astronomical), they don't need a map to find us - they can calculate the origin point based on trajectory and encountered spatial phenomena, just like we do with aerial and maritime objects. Okay, sure, that might not be accurate enough to get them straight to the planet... but it'll get them close enough to start picking up tv programs.
Anyway, to answer your question - no we shouldn't be signalling aliens. Not before we have interstellar travel down. Once we have that, it'll only be a few centuries at most before we become well-versed in the art of interstellar warfare, and then we'll be quite ready to meet our galactic neighbours.

[The Mourning Star]

well the nazis are a whole other topic. I don't think they were entirely bad

Whoa, hang on, what?

I'm not looking to hijack the thread, and either way I don't think that topic is allowed on NS

[Daburuetchi]

Um, that multi-species harmony thing only really happened in the Federation, almost everywhere else was ruled by dominant-species empires/confederations/assemblies.

Yeah, unless you actually analyse how authoritarian the federation actually are...bunch of space nazis.

As for the OP, the speed of transmissions at light speed means that by the time they reach alien civilisations we'll probably have a substantial empire consisting of hundreds of worlds, or have long since killed ourselves.

That is quite possible but even a minute chance of an alien species picking up our radio/tv signals or Nasa probes seems could consitute a real threat. Let's not forget nuclear weapons ripple space time so even that could be a give away

[The Mourning Star]

no we shouldn't be signalling aliens. Not before we have interstellar travel down. Once we have that, it'll only be a few centuries at most before we become well-versed in the art of interstellar warfare, and then we'll be quite ready to meet our galactic neighbours.

I guess thats the safest way. But if we found them sooner we could advance like a thousands times faster

[United Marxist Nations]

Why do you think that?

it's what I feel makes the most sense. Like for example if we reach a certain level of advancement where we can have anything we want, why would it be at the expense of another race of beings. There are alternatives. Like for example, with humans, we still havent found a way around a lot of ways to sustain ourselves, and so we compete to have the most of what's out there

There isn't a magical tech that makes resources infinite. They would still need resources.