The General Car Thread.

[Pensyltuckee Island]

If you could bring a back marque from the dead, or at least the realm of inactivity, what it be?

I'd say Saab, because they were interesting, even if their obsession of safety did bankrupt them.

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*Inane fanboy shrieking*

Packard. Easy. As much as I would like to again see Pontiac, Mercury, or Oldsmobile, or, hell, even Desoto come back, Packard made fine cars in the old way and would be interesting to see what it would do nowadays.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see what Packard would be up to now......

[Pensyltuckee Island]

If you could bring a back marque from the dead, or at least the realm of inactivity, what it be?

I'd say Saab, because they were interesting, even if their obsession of safety did bankrupt them

Pontiac, because GM should have killed Buick or GMC first.

I'm actually confused as to why Buick is still around...... surprised GM didn't knock out Buick a while ago....

[Val Halla]

In my area, it seems half the people drive high end Skodas, and the other half drive executive saloons like Audi A6s or Lexus IS

[Patridam]

Pontiac, because GM should have killed Buick or GMC first.

I'm actually confused as to why Buick is still around...... surprised GM didn't knock out Buick a while ago....

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

[Vistan]

I'm actually confused as to why Buick is still around...... surprised GM didn't knock out Buick a while ago....

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

They should get rid of Buick and bring Opel to China and North America

[Patridam]

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

They should get rid of Buick and bring Opel to China and North America

The Opel name has no cachet/history in those places. Buicks were one of the very few cars on the streets of China before the revolution and they are very much status symbols.

[Pensyltuckee Island]

I'm actually confused as to why Buick is still around...... surprised GM didn't knock out Buick a while ago....

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

Hmm..... well, that does make sense.

[Auzkhia]

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

Hmm..... well, that does make sense.

Sales seemed to be factor to, Pontiac's reputation was ruined by cars like the Aztek.

[The Two Jerseys]

I'm actually confused as to why Buick is still around...... surprised GM didn't knock out Buick a while ago....

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

Plus with Buick, GM has a mid-range car that doesn't have to worry about being viewed as an "overpriced" Chevy or "devaluing" the Cadillac name.

I'm not a Ford guy by any means, but I really think they should bring Mercury back and elevate Lincoln back to proper luxury car status.

[Cannot think of a name]

If you could bring a back marque from the dead, or at least the realm of inactivity, what it be?

I'd say Saab, because they were interesting, even if their obsession of safety did bankrupt them.

Nash or Studebaker. They were funky. Ooooo, Talbot or some other art deco era coachbuilt car maker. Art Deco cars, bring back art deco. Go back to a time when you knew aerodynamics were a thing but had no idea how it worked.

[Patridam]

They're pursuing BMW/Audi/Mercedes (sport-luxury cars) with Cadillac, and they left Buick around to pursue Lexus/Lincoln/Acura/Infiniti ("premium" cars without sporting pretensions). Besides, Buicks nowadays are basically rebadged Opels, so its not like they're very expensive to develop.

Plus with Buick, GM has a mid-range car that doesn't have to worry about being viewed as an "overpriced" Chevy or "devaluing" the Cadillac name.

I'm not a Ford guy by any means, but I really think they should bring Mercury back and elevate Lincoln back to proper luxury car status.

While I think they should move the Lincoln brand more upmarket - starting with RWD cars again, like a Mark IX based on a stretched Mustang and a real, full size, RWD Continental (the size of a 7 series at the price of a 5); I don't think they should bring back Mercury. The line between "Premium" and "Luxury" gets blurrier every day, as BMW's get bigger and softer and Lexuses (Lexi?) get more powerful and firmer. I think comfort and sport trims on Lincoln vehicles can cover both nicely as the get closer and closer together.

[Petrolheadia]

America, Japan, and Europe. Suppose you had to put one of these 3 region's car companies out of business. Every single one. You have to pick one single region or else all of them go. Which region's car companies would you wipe out?

I guess Europe.

[Petrolheadia]

Plus with Buick, GM has a mid-range car that doesn't have to worry about being viewed as an "overpriced" Chevy or "devaluing" the Cadillac name.

I'm not a Ford guy by any means, but I really think they should bring Mercury back and elevate Lincoln back to proper luxury car status.

While I think they should move the Lincoln brand more upmarket - starting with RWD cars again, like a Mark IX based on a stretched Mustang and a real, full size, RWD Continental (the size of a 7 series at the price of a 5); I don't think they should bring back Mercury. The line between "Premium" and "Luxury" gets blurrier every day, as BMW's get bigger and softer and Lexuses (Lexi?) get more powerful and firmer. I think comfort and sport trims on Lincoln vehicles can cover both nicely as the get closer and closer together.

I don't think they want that. I think they are more focused on competing with the likes of Acura, Infiniti and Chrysler. They simply want RWD, because the Chrysler 300 has it.

[Petrolheadia]

If you could bring a back marque from the dead, or at least the realm of inactivity, what it be?

I'd bring Triumph back. They could make small, fun to drive convertibles and hatchbacks.

[Costa Fierro]

Yes, Pontiac, It'd be great if GM brought back that and something like the Fiero back.

And what are GM going to base it on?

[Petrolheadia]

Yes, Pontiac, It'd be great if GM brought back that and something like the Fiero back.

And what are GM going to base it on?

Modified Chevy Sonic?

[Licana]

Yes, Pontiac, It'd be great if GM brought back that and something like the Fiero back.

And what are GM going to base it on?

Obviously a Ford GT.

[Costa Fierro]

And what are GM going to base it on?

Modified Chevy Sonic?

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And what are GM going to base it on?

Obviously a Ford GT.

Everything needs to be based on a Ford GT.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Yes, Pontiac, It'd be great if GM brought back that and something like the Fiero back.

And what are GM going to base it on?

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

[Costa Fierro]

And what are GM going to base it on?

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

Why would they be testing it in a heavily modified version of a Holden ute? Also, wouldn't it cannibalise Corvette sales as it would be basically a mid-engine version of the same car?

The original Fiero wasn't meant to compete with the likes of the Corvette, because Pontiac already had muscle cars that did. It was supposed to be an affordable sports car.

[Keyboard Warriors]

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

Why would they be testing it in a heavily modified version of a Holden ute? Also, wouldn't it cannibalise Corvette sales as it would be basically a mid-engine version of the same car?

The original Fiero wasn't meant to compete with the likes of the Corvette, because Pontiac already had muscle cars that did. It was supposed to be an affordable sports car.

I don't think the platform has anything to do with Zeta the only thing this has in common with holden utes is parts of the sheet metal. No idea why; I guess they needed the rear sheet metal of the ute to provide an affordable and easily-accessible way to get to the engine while testing and just decided to continue the theme with the front. There's no question that this is a mid-engined car though. The Corvette isn't all that expensive anyway so there's plenty of room to put this on or above the Z06 level and have prices going up from there. I presume this is a direct competitor for the GT.

[Licana]

And what are GM going to base it on?

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

I wonder what kind of technical wizardry GM pulled to create a mid-engined car with no discernible rear intakes. :>>>

[Keyboard Warriors]

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

I wonder what kind of technical wizardry GM pulled to create a mid-engined car with no discernible rear intakes. :>>>

Look right under the rear wing.

[Petrolheadia]

And what are GM going to base it on?

I do remember seeing this a while ago...

I don't think the next Corvette would be mid-engined. Actually, I sorta don't want it to.

[Ethel mermania]

If you could bring a back marque from the dead, or at least the realm of inactivity, what it be?

I'd say Saab, because they were interesting, even if their obsession of safety did bankrupt them.

Nash or Studebaker. They were funky. Ooooo, Talbot or some other art deco era coachbuilt car maker. Art Deco cars, bring back art deco. Go back to a time when you knew aerodynamics were a thing but had no idea how it worked.

Hudson.