The General Car Thread.

[Patridam]

Here's my latest creation, the Silverhare Sceptre Supreme a late-70s premium coupe, based on the downsized GM cars. It has an injected 4.4 liter V8 and gets about 17 mpg combined.

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[Petrolheadia]

What is the most expensive a member of your family has ever owned, considering the growth or decrease of wages?

In my case it would be a Volga owned in the 70s by my aunt. It was as prestigious back then as a Merc S-Class would be now.

[Licana]

A heavily modified 69 Chevelle, back when those were new. Adjusted for inflation, that's probably the most expensive car owned by anyone in my close family by a wide margin.

[Val Halla]

What is the most expensive a member of your family has ever owned, considering the growth or decrease of wages?

In my case it would be a Volga owned in the 70s by my aunt. It was as prestigious back then as a Merc S-Class would be now.

My uncle owns a Silver Shadow

[Licana]

Just like in real life, AWD is cheating.

[Auzkhia]

What is the most expensive a member of your family has ever owned, considering the growth or decrease of wages?

In my case it would be a Volga owned in the 70s by my aunt. It was as prestigious back then as a Merc S-Class would be now.

Probably the brand new, top of the line, 2003 GMC Envoy XL my family bought in 2002, or the used 2006 Audi A6 estate.

Going to grandparents, they had two 2004 Audi A8s, but they now have a new Buick Enclave.

[Cannot think of a name]

Adjusted for current value probably my dad's Porsche 356 that got stolen. Value at the time probably the BMW 735i he owned for a bit. Currently I think appreciation has meant that I hold the belt with the Bus. Everyone else's cars are going down and mine is going up.

[Shamhnan Insir]

No snow so far in this mild and pishing wet winter, so no polar exploration in the Corsa yet.

[HYDRA-Russian Empire]

What is the most expensive a member of your family has ever owned, considering the growth or decrease of wages?

In my case it would be a Volga owned in the 70s by my aunt. It was as prestigious back then as a Merc S-Class would be now.

A £113,000 Jaguar F-Type, owned by me.

Also my son was very happy with the car which I got for him, so thanks again for your help!

[Petrolheadia]

Don't you think hot hatches are an European interpretation of the muscle car idea? I mean, the plan is the same: take a small car and stick a powerful engine into it.

[Stormwrath]

Don't you think hot hatches are an European interpretation of the muscle car idea? I mean, the plan is the same: take a small car and stick a powerful engine into it.

Probably not, since they just can make compact sports cars with powerful engines.

Oh wait…

[Patridam]

Don't you think hot hatches are an European interpretation of the muscle car idea? I mean, the plan is the same: take a small car and stick a powerful engine into it.

No, a 3.0 Capri is a European interpretation of the muscle car.

[Petrolheadia]

Don't you think hot hatches are an European interpretation of the muscle car idea? I mean, the plan is the same: take a small car and stick a powerful engine into it.

No, a 3.0 Capri is a European interpretation of the muscle car.

No, that's more of an Euro 'Vette, if the Corvette was based off a standard Chevy.

[Pontuis]

What is the most expensive a member of your family has ever owned, considering the growth or decrease of wages?

In my case it would be a Volga owned in the 70s by my aunt. It was as prestigious back then as a Merc S-Class would be now.

Dads range rover autobiography

[Licana]

No, that's more of an Euro 'Vette, if the Corvette was based off a standard Chevy.

Yeah, if the Corvette was a Camaro, it sure would be a lot like a Capri. :|

The Jensen Interceptor is probably a better example of a Euro pony/muscle car, though. It at least get a high displacement V8.

[Petrolheadia]

No, that's more of an Euro 'Vette, if the Corvette was based off a standard Chevy.

Yeah, if the Corvette was a Camaro, it sure would be a lot like a Capri. :|

The Jensen Interceptor is probably a better example of a Euro pony/muscle car, though. It at least get a high displacement V8.

I'm not saying that the Europeans built muscle cars (although they kinda did; look at the C63 AMG Merc). I'm saying that hot hatches had a similar premise to muscle cars.

[Patridam]

No, a 3.0 Capri is a European interpretation of the muscle car.

No, that's more of an Euro 'Vette, if the Corvette was based off a standard Chevy.

No. The Capri is a Euro Mustang.

[Petrolheadia]

No, that's more of an Euro 'Vette, if the Corvette was based off a standard Chevy.

No. The Capri is a Euro Mustang.

No. The Escort RS2000 is one.

[Patridam]

No. The Capri is a Euro Mustang.

No. The Escort RS2000 is one.

The Capri is already almost a foot shorter than a Mustang and has 2 liters less engine. Why do you need to go even smaller?

[Licana]

Yeah, if the Corvette was a Camaro, it sure would be a lot like a Capri. :|

The Jensen Interceptor is probably a better example of a Euro pony/muscle car, though. It at least get a high displacement V8.

I'm not saying that the Europeans built muscle cars (although they kinda did; look at the C63 AMG Merc).

Well, you're wrong on that point. European automotive companies were building what would be defined as a muscle car, even during the early eras of muscle cars. In fact, not even really sure how you can say with any degree of seriousness when your statement of the Capri being "like a corvette on a standard chevy chassis" literally describes a Camaro, which is unquestionably a muscle car (this is what I was pointing out)

I'm saying that hot hatches had a similar premise to muscle cars.

Of course they are, they wouldn't be a thing anyone would care about otherwise. I wouldn't really call them an interpretation of muscle cars, though, as there are wildly different key features and design considerations between those two different types of vehicle. They're just two different types of vehicle that generally occupy the same market.

[Patridam]

I'm not saying that the Europeans built muscle cars (although they kinda did; look at the C63 AMG Merc).

Well, you're wrong on that point. European automotive companies were building what would be defined as a muscle car, even during the early eras of muscle cars. In fact, not even really sure how you can say with any degree of seriousness when your statement of the Capri being "like a corvette on a standard chevy chassis" literally describes a Camaro, which is unquestionably a muscle car (this is what I was pointing out)

I mean if we're splitting hairs the Camaro, Mustang, and Capri are "pony cars", muscle cars are generally on intermediate chassis rather than compacts.

[Licana]

I mean if we're splitting hairs the Camaro, Mustang, and Capri are "pony cars", muscle cars are generally on intermediate chassis rather than compacts.

Yes, but these two different classes are generally thrown together whenever people talk about "muscle" cars.

[HYDRA-Russian Empire]

I mean if we're splitting hairs the Camaro, Mustang, and Capri are "pony cars", muscle cars are generally on intermediate chassis rather than compacts.

Yes, but these two different classes are generally thrown together whenever people talk about "muscle" cars.

I never really understood what is a muscle car

[Petrolheadia]

Imagine you are a retired executive. You have a few supercars, but you also want something for strolling around the neighbourhood. You want to buy an NEV (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborh ... ic_Vehicle) and get it a leather interior. Your choices are:
- CT&T eZONE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CT%26T_United
- GEM e2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Electric_Motorcars
- OKA NEV - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oka_NEV_Z ... rnal_links
- 2012 G-Wiz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REVAi
- Dynasty IT - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_IT
- Estrima Birò - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrima_Bir%C3%B2

[Patridam]

Yes, but these two different classes are generally thrown together whenever people talk about "muscle" cars.

I never really understood what is a muscle car

Back in the 60s it was generally defined as an affordable performance car, one based on the basic platform of an ordinary family car, but given a much more powerful engine and having aggressive styling.

For example, the Ford Mustang was based on the humdrum Ford Falcon compact sedan but had a much more exciting body, with a long hood, short trunk, and low roofline; and it could be had with a powerful V8 engine and sporty interior stuff like bucket seats and a console. Or take the Oldsmobile 442; it was basically just a regular midsize car, the Oldsmobile Cutlass, but with some sporty touches inside and out and a big 455 cubic inch V8 taken from full size cars stuffed in the engine bay.

Nowadays it's become a performance/sports car that still has a back seat, has a powerful engine, and has aggressive styling, but is a bit bigger than a 2+2.