The General Car Thread.

[Reformed Corea]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Why not a hydrogen car like Hyundai?

[Petrolheadia]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

The 1st gen Toyota Yaris 1.0 petrol or 1.4 diesel is good.

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Why not a hydrogen car like Hyundai?

Cost, maybe?

What do you want from a car? Would you be content with used?

Also, tuning a car voids the warranty.

As long as the mileage is good enough, I'd go for a used.

You might wanna check the Lexus IS-F, if you want a sports sedan.

[Reformed Corea]

Cost, maybe?

True. It probably costs about $110,000 at maximum.

[Auzkhia]

Well, I'll definitely tune my BMW.

BMWs aren't really tuner darlings, apart from the E60/F10 M5s, and their M6 counterparts.

BMWs are some of the most moded cars around me, aside from VWs and Hondas of course. Pennsylvania has a big VW tuning scene. Mind you, BMW would prefer if you didn't, for they insist every 335i is perfect from the factory, but that's not going to stop any budding boy racer who unironically mourns Paul Walker on his rear window.

[Reformed Corea]

BMWs aren't really tuner darlings, apart from the E60/F10 M5s, and their M6 counterparts.

BMWs are some of the most moded cars around me, aside from VWs and Hondas of course. Pennsylvania has a big VW tuning scene. Mind you, BMW would prefer if you didn't, for they insist every 335i is perfect from the factory, but that's not going to stop any budding boy racer who unironically mourns Paul Walker on his rear window.

My cousin once tried to race with a BMW M5, and he got into a car accident with that and cost his family millions.

[NeoOasis]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Aw snap, welcome to freedom. I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever car you may end up buying.

[Reformed Corea]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Aw snap, welcome to freedom. I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever car you may end up buying.

Citroen has nice design.

[NeoOasis]

Aw snap, welcome to freedom. I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever car you may end up buying.

Citroen has nice design.

I'm a huge fan of the DS lineup, C4 Cactus is especially funky... kinda wish they sold em in the United States.

[Elwher]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

I always had a soft spot for these:

[Militant Costco]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Why not a hydrogen car like Hyundai?

What is the point of a hydrogen car anyway?

They're slower than electric vehicles, cost more, are basically hydrogen bomb's in a collision (this ones debatable and manufacturers claim its safe but then they brag about how they are so strong and how they spent lots of time and money strengthening it so if its so safe why would they do that), there's less infrastructure to support them and to gain usable hydrogen you have to use lots of electricity to convert it and hydrogen is just converted to electricity to power the motor anyways. I honestly feel hydrogen cars are the stupidest type of cars in the market right now.

[Reformed Corea]

Why not a hydrogen car like Hyundai?

What is the point of a hydrogen car anyway?

They're slower than electric vehicles, cost more, are basically hydrogen bomb's in a collision (this ones debatable and manufacturers claim its safe but then they brag about how they are so strong and how they spent lots of time and money strengthening it so if its so safe why would they do that), there's less infrastructure to support them and to gain usable hydrogen you have to use lots of electricity to convert it and hydrogen is just converted to electricity to power the motor anyways. I honestly feel hydrogen cars are the stupidest type of cars in the market right now.

It's mainly for the environment.

[Xin-Nippon]

I wonder how eco-friendly a hydrogen car is compared to an electric...

[Reformed Corea]

I wonder how eco-friendly a hydrogen car is compared to an electric...

Well, it's a balance between environmental friendliness and abundance of the resource. Hydrogen covers 75% of the universe; it's pretty much unlimited.

[Petrolheadia]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

I always had a soft spot for these:

It was the best car for its price, but that's like saying that having an air strike dropped on you is the most pleasant form of dying in combat.

[Xin-Nippon]

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I like it, but then again I like most classic cars.

[Vassenor]

I wonder how eco-friendly a hydrogen car is compared to an electric...

Unless you can guarantee exactly where your charging point is pulling juice from, electric cars aren't -actually- all that eco-friendly.

And this is before we get into the environmental damage caused during production, such as the effects of mining nickel for the batteries.

[Xin-Nippon]

I wonder how eco-friendly a hydrogen car is compared to an electric...

Unless you can guarantee exactly where your charging point is pulling juice from, electric cars aren't -actually- all that eco-friendly.

And this is before we get into the environmental damage caused during production, such as the effects of mining nickel for the batteries.

Hm, there really needs to be a study comparing the overall impact of electric vs hydrogen vs petrol vs diesel cars.

[Ushindi]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

Why not a hydrogen car like Hyundai?

I think hydrogen cars will be very expensive like hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell, beginning at 59 700 euros
I would just like to have a little "used car" under 5000 euros, to begin my experience TUT TUUUUUT

[East Fredonia]

This summer I learn to drive !
After having my driver's license (I hope), I would like to have a car which is not too expensive, like a Citroën C3 (first model).

I always had a soft spot for these:

it's so adorable

[Elwher]

I wonder how eco-friendly a hydrogen car is compared to an electric...

Well, it's a balance between environmental friendliness and abundance of the resource. Hydrogen covers 75% of the universe; it's pretty much unlimited.

Yes, but how much environmental damage is caused by the extraction process? It takes quite a bit of electricity, much of which comes from non-friendly sources.

[Petrolheadia]

Unless you can guarantee exactly where your charging point is pulling juice from, electric cars aren't -actually- all that eco-friendly.

And this is before we get into the environmental damage caused during production, such as the effects of mining nickel for the batteries.

Hm, there really needs to be a study comparing the overall impact of electric vs hydrogen vs petrol vs diesel cars.

IIRC in Poland, electric is more eco-friendly than diesel or petrol. Can't recall the source, though.

[Petrolheadia]

Imagine you're a 37-year-old married, but childless, woman from Michigan. You want to buy a $30k 40+ MPG car that would be well-equipped, reliable and spacious. The options are:
- Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE,
- Toyota Prius Four Touring,
- Honda Accord Hybrid Base,
- Nissan Leaf SL,
- Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid,
- Chevrolet Volt LT,
- Ford Fusion Titanium (either Hybrid or Energi),
- Ford C-Max Titanium (either Hybrid or Energi),
- Ford Focus Electric,
- Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Limited,
- Kia Niro Hybrid Touring,
- Kia Optima Hybrid Limited,
- Hyundai Ioniq Limited (either Hybrid or Plug-in or EV),
- VW e-Golf SEL Premium.

Which one would you buy? I'd get the Hyundai Sonata.

[Xin-Nippon]

I really like the look of the Toyota Prius, but would probably choose the Nissan Leaf due to it being electric and having no emissions at operation.

[Petrolheadia]

I really like the look of the Toyota Prius, but would probably choose the Nissan Leaf due to it being electric and having no emissions at operation.

The e-Golf, Focus and Ioniq EV are also electric, the Volt can go all-electric for a decent amount of time (and has a petrol generator for when you run out of charge), and 66% of electricity in Michigan comes from fossil fuels. Out of that, nearly 3/4s are coal.

[Xin-Nippon]

I really like the look of the Toyota Prius, but would probably choose the Nissan Leaf due to it being electric and having no emissions at operation.

The e-Golf, Focus and Ioniq EV are also electric, the Volt can go all-electric for a decent amount of time (and has a petrol generator for when you run out of charge), and 66% of electricity in Michigan comes from fossil fuels. Out of that, nearly 3/4s are coal.

Out of those you mentioned, I preferred the Leaf's look the best ^^

And I don't live anywhere near Michigan.