The Christian Discussion Thread VI

[Luminesa]

CK2

I own EU but have yet to play it
Also AoE
All of these games (aside from Civ if you play it right) forces you to do terrible things in the name of being a world leader though.
I digress.

EU!!!

Where you can have a king and a pope from the same country...

AND EVERYBODY MUST NOW BOW DOWN TO PORTUGAL!

*Ahem.* Christianity, Lumi.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I own EU but have yet to play it
Also AoE
All of these games (aside from Civ if you play it right) forces you to do terrible things in the name of being a world leader though.
I digress.

EU!!!

Where you can have a king and a pope from the same country...

AND EVERYBODY MUST NOW BOW DOWN TO PORTUGAL!

*Ahem.* Christianity, Lumi.

I've never played a game of CIV, Total War or Diplomacy, in which Portugal wasn't quickly made into Spain's slave.

[Salus Maior]

CK2

I own EU but have yet to play it
Also AoE
All of these games (aside from Civ if you play it right) forces you to do terrible things in the name of being a world leader though.
I digress.

And that's unrealistic how?.... ;P

But yeah, I've murdered A LOT of children in my past few playthroughs.... It's the truce system's fault ;P

But at least I made the world Christian...That makes up for it, right?
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[Luminesa]

EU!!!

Where you can have a king and a pope from the same country...

AND EVERYBODY MUST NOW BOW DOWN TO PORTUGAL!

*Ahem.* Christianity, Lumi.

I've never played a game of CIV, Total War or Diplomacy, in which Portugal wasn't quickly made into Spain's slave.

No, this time it was France.

AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGH!!! FRANCE WHY YOU TAKE ALL MY STUFF?!?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!

[The Alexanderians]

I've never played a game of CIV, Total War or Diplomacy, in which Portugal wasn't quickly made into Spain's slave.

No, this time it was France.

AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGH!!! FRANCE WHY YOU TAKE ALL MY STUFF?!?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

[Salus Maior]

No, this time it was France.

AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGH!!! FRANCE WHY YOU TAKE ALL MY STUFF?!?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAUGH!!!

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

[The Alexanderians]

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

"Without innocence the cross is only iron..."
A few verses spring to mind too, one in particular though.

[The Archregimancy]

The Three Theologians - also known as the Three Holy Hierarchs (celebrated together on January 30, although they also have individual saints' days at other times of the year) - are Basil the Great, Gregory the Theologian and John Chrysostom. They lived in the late 4th century (and, in John's case, a few years into the 5th century) and are regarded as some of the greatest, if not the greatest, Fathers of the Church.

Though we deliberately set out to confuse the non-Orthodox via the overlap between the Three Holy Hierarchs and the three Cappadocian Fathers; who are Basil the Great, Gregory the Theologian, and Basil's younger brother Gregory of Nyssa - a substantive and influential theologian in his own right, if not quite at the same level as the Three Holy Hierarchs.

That bit about Arianism sounds...like it's been played out in this thread. So tell me Const who's the St. Gregory to your St. Basil? Arch perhaps? XD

My nameday saint is another important early theologian related to Arianism, though one just pre-dating the Cappadocian Fathers/Three Holy Hierarchs.

That doesn't really give anything away about my identity, incidentally; that's not how my name is shown on my passport.

[New confederate ramenia]

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

[The Archregimancy]

There isn't any because the Orthodox are not heretics, they're schismatics.

And so are we. We both flipped eachother off, and went our seperate ways. The question who really has true claim to the being the true church. We claim, via de fide that we are tue church. The orthodox claim the same. But when you analyze it from the beaurocratic sense, each side has legitimate claim, and because of that, neither side does

Why, Tarsonis, that's almost conciliatory.

With my academic hat on, I can work with that; I would only perhaps add that we could say much the same about the Oriental Orthodox and the Church of the East. Current demographics perhaps disguise their historical importance and roots of their claims to small-c catholicity, particularly with the much-diminished Church of the East.

[Salus Maior]

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

Wait, are you saying what the Texans are doing is heresy, or that what I'm saying about it is heresy?

[Salus Maior]

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

Wait, are you saying what the Texans are doing is heresy, or that what I'm saying about it is heresy?

[New confederate ramenia]

Wait, are you saying what the Texans are doing is heresy, or that what I'm saying about it is heresy?

The Texans are heretics.

Tejani sunt hæretici.

[The Alexanderians]

Wait, are you saying what the Texans are doing is heresy, or that what I'm saying about it is heresy?

The Texans are heretics.

Tejani sunt hæretici.

Oh good, does this mean crusade time?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

And so are we. We both flipped eachother off, and went our seperate ways. The question who really has true claim to the being the true church. We claim, via de fide that we are tue church. The orthodox claim the same. But when you analyze it from the beaurocratic sense, each side has legitimate claim, and because of that, neither side does

Why, Tarsonis, that's almost conciliatory.

With my academic hat on, I can work with that; I would only perhaps add that we could say much the same about the Oriental Orthodox and the Church of the East. Current demographics perhaps disguise their historical importance and roots of their claims to small-c catholicity, particularly with the much-diminished Church of the East.

I'm beginning to think that my life's work is gonna be working towards a reconciliation....... that or proving ghosts exist

[Tarsonis Survivors]

So as I sit here in the library surrounded by books on Christian Eschatology, I realize I think it's time I took a hiatus from NSG. I will will still pop in once and a while, but not nearly as much. I have a lot to work on, and I should probably focus on that.

Don't let efraim run wild while I'm gone

[The Archregimancy]

Tejani sunt hæretici.

Ceterum autem censeo Tejam esse delendam.

Assuming 'Teja' is a first declension feminine noun.

[Nordengrund]

I own EU but have yet to play it
Also AoE
All of these games (aside from Civ if you play it right) forces you to do terrible things in the name of being a world leader though.
I digress.

EU!!!

Where you can have a king and a pope from the same country...

AND EVERYBODY MUST NOW BOW DOWN TO PORTUGAL!

*Ahem.* Christianity, Lumi.

I have Civ and AoE, but cannot play them on my new computer.

[Luminesa]

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

I don't see what's wrong with it.

Can they build a church next to it, though?

[Czechanada]

ANYWAY
Oh look the thread

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

Leo the Isaurian must be turning in his grave!

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

I don't see what's wrong with it.

Can they build a church next to it, though?

Simply because it's a waste of money. It's like these million dollar salaries and mansions of evangelical leaders, its basically embezzling. The time for monuments is long past.

[Czechanada]

I don't see what's wrong with it.

Can they build a church next to it, though?

Simply because it's a waste of money. It's like these million dollar salaries and mansions of evangelical leaders, its basically embezzling. The time for monuments is long past.

Doesn't the Catholic Church live in grandiose and gilded cathedrals?

[Salus Maior]

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

I don't see what's wrong with it.

Can they build a church next to it, though?

Well, when there's a lot of poor and suffering people in the world, shouldn't Christianity focus their efforts on helping them and bringing Christ to them? As opposed to building big things just to be like "look at me, I build big Christian icons! I'm the best Christian ever, right?".

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Simply because it's a waste of money. It's like these million dollar salaries and mansions of evangelical leaders, its basically embezzling. The time for monuments is long past.

Doesn't the Catholic Church live in grandiose and gilded cathedrals?

Indeed, and we've lambasted Church officials for overly extravagant shit in recent years (like the archbishop of Germany) and Pope Francis is working against all this lily gilding.

[The Archregimancy]

Apparently in Corpus Christi, Texas, people are going to build the largest cross in the Western Hemisphere.

Because that's totally something Christ would prefer people spend time doing.

Leo the Isaurian must be turning in his grave!

On the surviving artistic evidence - for example the apse of Hagia Irene - Leo III would have been all in favour of a massive great big cross.

Icons, not so much; but he seems to have been fond of crosses.