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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
243
36%
Eastern Orthodox
53
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
35
5%
Methodist
23
3%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
82
12%
Baptist
77
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, non-denominational, etc.)
65
10%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
23
3%
Other Christian
77
11%
 
Total votes : 684

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:54 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Gim wrote:
How confident are you?

I'm fairly confident in my views on Christianity, maybe an 8 or 9 out of 10.


But how confident are you that you understand Christian doctrine? Dat, my friend, is the question. *Holds the skull of Justinian, as a Shakespearian prop.*
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Postby Rejeistan » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:I'm fairly confident in my views on Christianity, maybe an 8 or 9 out of 10.


But how confident are you that you understand Christian doctrine? Dat, my friend, is the question. *Holds the skull of Justinian, as a Shakespearian prop.*

Depends on the denomination, I think I'm confident (About the same, 8.5/10) that I have the broad strokes.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:06 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
But how confident are you that you understand Christian doctrine? Dat, my friend, is the question. *Holds the skull of Justinian, as a Shakespearian prop.*

Depends on the denomination, I think I'm confident (About the same, 8.5/10) that I have the broad strokes.


Catholicism?
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby Rejeistan » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:09 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Depends on the denomination, I think I'm confident (About the same, 8.5/10) that I have the broad strokes.


Catholicism?

Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:42 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
Catholicism?

Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.


...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby Rejeistan » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:48 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.


...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?
St. Monast

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?
Counter Protestant Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?
A Saint.

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?
Theologian/Philosopher I think

5.) Name 5 religious orders.
Knight's Templar
Witchhunters
Inquisition
Vatican Astronomers
Panj Piares

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?
Crackers and wine turn into flesh and blood, not sure who named it.

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?
One of the Urbans.

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?
St. Rose.

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?
Repelling vampires.

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?
A while ago, something something in latin?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:50 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.


...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?

At the moment, without looking it up I can tell you that Catholic means 'universal', correct?
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:51 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?

At the moment, without looking it up I can tell you that Catholic means 'universal', correct?


Yes.

No giving out answers, Fluttershy, gosh! Bad pony!
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Postby Rejeistan » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:52 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:At the moment, without looking it up I can tell you that Catholic means 'universal', correct?


Yes.

No giving out answers, Fluttershy, gosh! Bad pony!

Well I think I was mostly correct. But, I don't think I need to know who invented which term and why to decide how I feel about the religion. :)
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:55 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
Yes.

No giving out answers, Fluttershy, gosh! Bad pony!

Well I think I was mostly correct. But, I don't think I need to know who invented which term and why to decide how I feel about the religion. :)


Not really.

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:56 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Luminesa wrote:
...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?
St. Monast

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?
Counter Protestant Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?
A Saint.

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?
Theologian/Philosopher I think

5.) Name 5 religious orders.
Knight's Templar
Witchhunters
Inquisition
Vatican Astronomers
Panj Piares

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?
Crackers and wine turn into flesh and blood, not sure who named it.

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?
One of the Urbans.

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?
St. Rose.

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?
Repelling vampires.

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?
A while ago, something something in latin?


1.) St. Benedict

2.) Correct!

3.)...Okay, I'll give it to you...

4.) Yes. And a saint.

5.) All wrong...some possible answers are Dominican, Benedictine,
Missionaries of Charity, Franciscan, and Jesuit.

6.) Half right, it was Aquinas.

7.) St. John Paul II

8.) St. Dominic (founder of the Dominican order)

9.) Lol. Wrong for this question, though. The Rosary is meant to be
prayed as a reflection of the life of Jesus through Mary's eyes.

10.) "Universal" in Greek.

So let's see...

3.5/10. Hmmmm...

*Hands him a book on the lives of the saints and a NASV bible.* Get cracking! :D
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Postby Rejeistan » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:00 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Well I think I was mostly correct. But, I don't think I need to know who invented which term and why to decide how I feel about the religion. :)


Not really.

@ Tarsonis and Luminesa

I honestly don't think that reading about their lives is worth it. This is coming from a perspective of an atheist, what's so special about what they have to say?

I have never heard of great religious wisdom that I found both worthwhile and original.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:13 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Luminesa wrote:1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

1.) St. Benedict

*ahem*

St. Anthony the Great, the "Father of all Monks", would like to have a word about that.

Christian monasticism began in Egypt, and the honour of having laid the foundations for the monastic life belongs to the Church of Alexandria and the Desert Fathers. Having said that, St. Basil of Caesarea popularized monasticism in the Greek world and St. Benedict popularized it in the Latin world, so these two saints (who lived a couple of generations after St. Anthony) have had the greatest influence on modern Orthodox and Catholic monasticism, respectively.
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So playing a nomadic ruler on Crusader Kings 2 is there any historical evidence for Christian rulers taking multiples spouses or concubines?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:20 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:At the moment, without looking it up I can tell you that Catholic means 'universal', correct?


Yes.

No giving out answers, Fluttershy, gosh! Bad pony!

Image


Also, guess I would have been only half right too for number six. I know it has something to do with the Eucharist being the real body and blood of Christ, but aside from that nothing else.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:30 pm

Rejeistan wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Not really.

@ Tarsonis and Luminesa

I honestly don't think that reading about their lives is worth it. This is coming from a perspective of an atheist, what's so special about what they have to say?

I have never heard of great religious wisdom that I found both worthwhile and original.



As I said earlier, I don't believe you see anything beyond your own ego.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:33 pm

Nioya wrote:I feel like I'm praying wrongly. How should I pray?

And I have failed to love others as Christ did. What should I do?

I don't think it's easy to "pray wrong". Certainly you should pray for others before yourself, but past that I don't really see how you could do it wrong. Just...speak to God from your heart.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:35 pm

Rejeistan wrote:5.) Name 5 religious orders.
Knight's Templar
Witchhunters
Inquisition
Vatican Astronomers
Panj Piares

Tsk. You should know better. The Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition, as the name implies, are not a single order, but rather the overarching organization that includes the 3 Ordo Majoris - Ordo Malleus ("Daemonhunters"), Ordo Hereticus ("Witchhunters"), and Ordo Xenos ("Deathwatch") - alongside innumerable Ordo Minoris.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:39 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:5.) Name 5 religious orders.
Knight's Templar
Witchhunters
Inquisition
Vatican Astronomers
Panj Piares

Tsk. You should know better. The Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition, as the name implies, are not a single order, but rather the overarching organization that includes the 3 Ordo Majoris - Ordo Malleus ("Daemonhunters"), Ordo Hereticus ("Witchhunters"), and Ordo Xenos ("Deathwatch") - alongside innumerable Ordo Minoris.

This has been a public service announcement of the Adeptus Ministorum. Hail the Immortal Emperor of Mankind!

[for those who don't get the repeated references to the Warhammer 40,000 fictional universe that seem to crop up on every page of this thread, click here for the main backstory]

I'm crying internally over you right now Const...Five words in and I suspected WH40K...
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:51 pm

Luminesa wrote:
...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?


Name 5 religious orders.

1. Hospitallers

2. Templars

3.Teutonic

4.Santiago

5. ...Cantabria? I think that's a Knight Order. I know there's at least 2 major Iberian orders.


That's the only one I feel like answering :P
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:17 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Luminesa wrote:1.) St. Benedict

*ahem*

St. Anthony the Great, the "Father of all Monks", would like to have a word about that.

Christian monasticism began in Egypt, and the honour of having laid the foundations for the monastic life belongs to the Church of Alexandria and the Desert Fathers. Having said that, St. Basil of Caesarea popularized monasticism in the Greek world and St. Benedict popularized it in the Latin world, so these two saints (who lived a couple of generations after St. Anthony) have had the greatest influence on modern Orthodox and Catholic monasticism, respectively.


Right. Sorry. I forgot about him. I was confused between the two, but I know that Benedict popularized it in the West, and founded basically the first religious order (Benedictines).

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:18 pm

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Not really.

@ Tarsonis and Luminesa

I honestly don't think that reading about their lives is worth it. This is coming from a perspective of an atheist, what's so special about what they have to say?

I have never heard of great religious wisdom that I found both worthwhile and original.


Well, what religious wisdom have you read? As in, what books?
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:37 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.


...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?

1) Either St. Benedict or St. Anthony, depending on what you mean by modern.
2) The counter-reformation.
3) The theologian whose work laid the groundwork for much of medieval theology.
4) The medieval theologian who, building on the groundwork of Augustine, defined much of Catholic theology.
5) Society of Jesus, Order of Preachers, Franciscans, Theatines, Benedictines.
6) Transubstantiation is the Catholic view of the real presence. It's fairly complicated. Not sure who named it, but Thomas Aquinas described it.
7) Benedict XVI
8) Trick question. It was popularized by Blessed Alanus de Rupe, who, as can be inferred from his name, was not a saint.
9) It's a Marian devotion on the life of Jesus.
10) It's the Greek word for universal. Considering it shew up in the Nicene creed, I'm going to say they used it?
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Postby Hakons » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:10 pm

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It's amazing how true that is, although people are not assigned to bring certain foods to meals.

Also, Methodists only have communion once per month. This tradition came when there were low numbers of pastors in the Midwest. They would travel around in a 'circuit' so everyone in the area could attend a service and have communion.

Do you mean there were low numbers of ordained pastors?
Can/could only ordained pastors serve communion?
Did church services themselves, communion or not, only occur once a month in those days?
If they occurred weekly or more often, what exactly did they do w/o a pastor? Did they have lay pastors?
???


There was a regular amount of ordained pastors, but the congregation was spread over large areas. Methodism in the USA was mainly in the Midwest. Most people were farmers or cattle herders and were very spread out. The ordained pastors would travel around a route and hold services once a week. The route took usually one month to go through. Thus, communion was served once a month and was only served by ordained pastors. Service was still held every week with I suppose would be a lay pastor leading the congregation.

I can give my modern example. The pastor lives in a house next to the church. Every ten years or so, pastors are switched around. I'm not sure why this is done, but maybe to keep with the tradition of pastors moving around. Anyway, communion is served on the first Sunday of every month. On Sundays when the pastor is not in town, our Youth Service Director leads the service. Basically, when the pastor is not present, another church leader steps in. Even when the pastor is present, prominent congregation members sometimes take part in leading the service.
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Postby Schiltzberg » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:17 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Rejeistan wrote:Free Will -> Original Sin -> Few thousand years of Israelites moving around in the middle east without a huge amount of success -> Jesus came down to die and take the punishment for us - > And don't touch yourself.


...That's Christianity in general...QUIZ TIME! :lol:

1.) Founder of modern monasticism?

2.) What was the Catholic Reformation?

3.) Who was St. Augustine?

4.) Who was St. Thomas Aquinas?

5.) Name 5 religious orders.

6.) What is "transubstantiation" and who came up with the term?

7.) What pope came up with the term "New Evangelization"?

8.) What Saint popularized the Rosary?

9.) What is the purpose of the Rosary?

10.) When was the term "Catholic" first used and what does it mean?

1. I don't know
2. Catholic reform caused by Protestant Reformation
3. Convert to Christianity who became a great philosopher
4. Genius writer, philosopher, and theologian
5. Benedictine, Jesuit, Franciscan, Salesian, Dominican
6. It is when the host becomes the Eucharist. Don't know who came up with term. Maybe Aquinas.
7. John Paul II, I'm pretty sure
8. St. Dominic, I'm pretty sure
9. The Mysteries of the Rosary were originally basically a way for an illiterate person to meditate to the New Testament.
10. Catholic means "universal," and it is used because it is the Universal Church. I'm thinking that maybe it was first used during the Council of Nicea (probably not spelled right).
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