The Christian Discussion Thread VI

[Constantinopolis]

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

Daesh is already at war with every single state and political entity that borders them except Turkey.

All it would take to cut off their supplies and quickly defeat them would be to persuade Turkey to actually go to war with them. The Turks don't even need to do any serious damage - just go to war and close off the Daesh-Turkey border, preventing any people or supplies from moving across. The other forces fighting Daesh would take care of the rest. No one can survive with enemy forces on every border.

But no, Erdogan is more concerned with killing Kurds.

[Menassa]

And kill Jews along the way like before? Again, let's not... a lot of Christians on this site know where I live...

Well, in the First Crusade specifically, the Church condemned the "people's crusade" which had committed the atrocities on the European Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland ... h_response

Not for the Jews, but since they were too busy killing Jews they weren't getting their job done.

[Czechanada]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

[The Alexanderians]

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

Daesh is already at war with every single state and political entity that borders them except Turkey.

All it would take to cut off their supplies and quickly defeat them would be to persuade Turkey to actually go to war with them. The Turks don't even need to do any serious damage - just go to war and close off the Daesh-Turkey border, preventing any people or supplies from moving across. The other forces fighting Daesh would take care of the rest. No one can survive with enemy forces on every border.

But no, Erdogan is more concerned with killing Kurds.

Erdogan isn't exactly a bastion of sanity, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts targeting other minorities like religious ones.

[Salus Maior]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

Son. I am disappoint.

[The Alexanderians]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

Son. I am disappoint.

I hope he gets kicked out, this kind of thing should never fly.

[Athartha]

Son. I am disappoint.

I hope he gets kicked out, this kind of thing should never fly.

At the very least, he should be ad poenam laicised.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I hope he gets kicked out, this kind of thing should never fly.

At the very least, he should be ad poenam laicised.

Assuming he didn't gamble that away too. Well I guess technically he did.

[Athartha]

At the very least, he should be ad poenam laicised.

Assuming he didn't gamble that away too. Well I guess technically he did.

It is entirely possible he will only be suspended for some time (unless the article indicates the Bishop has already made a decision on the matter, I did not read it thoroughly). Personally, I think a suspension is not appropriate if the allegations are true. At the very least he should be laicised. Now, with the amount of money allegedly lost (and the purpose that money was for), I could also see an excommunication in the future.

[The Archregimancy]

I've been away from NS for a week for personal reasons.

I likely won't be back fully until next week, but I have noticed that this thread is creeping up to 500 pages again; I'll try and be alert for the transition, but I'm sure any other member of the moderation team can help out if I'm not available.

[The Blaatschapen]

I've been away from NS for a week for personal reasons.

I likely won't be back fully until next week, but I have noticed that this thread is creeping up to 500 pages again; I'll try and be alert for the transition, but I'm sure any other member of the moderation team can help out if I'm not available.

Don't worry Arch. We've got it covered.We've even started testing with naming TET after a Christian event

[Bari]

Assuming he didn't gamble that away too. Well I guess technically he did.

It is entirely possible he will only be suspended for some time (unless the article indicates the Bishop has already made a decision on the matter, I did not read it thoroughly). Personally, I think a suspension is not appropriate if the allegations are true. At the very least he should be laicised. Now, with the amount of money allegedly lost (and the purpose that money was for), I could also see an excommunication in the future.

Why should he be reduced to the lay state?

Furthermore, excommunication is excessive and unnecessary, especially if he regrets what he had done. Recall that excommunication is not an expiatory or vindictive punishment, but rather, it is a medicinal measure intended to bring someone back to the Church by momentarily depriving him of the benefits thereof.

I can understand how degradation might be an appropriate punishment if he is found guilty of what he is accused, but excommunication would not be appropriate, assuming he is contrite.

[Luminesa]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

You sir. You sir.

Strip this punk of his duties immediately. If he wants to be a Good Time Charlie, he can go do that without a collar.

Also. How the flip did a parish priest get a hold of half a million dollars?! O.o

[The Alexanderians]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

You sir. You sir.

Strip this punk of his duties immediately. If he wants to be a Good Time Charlie, he can go do that without a collar.

Also. How the flip did a parish priest get a hold of half a million dollars?! O.o

Donations, any number of sources. Alucard puts it colorfully.

[Luminesa]

You sir. You sir.

Strip this punk of his duties immediately. If he wants to be a Good Time Charlie, he can go do that without a collar.

Also. How the flip did a parish priest get a hold of half a million dollars?! O.o

Donations, any number of sources. Alucard puts it colorfully.

At least Alucard didn't gamble away money meant to help refugees. God have mercy on this idiot's soul...

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I know I'm usually not the one to take this road, but here goes.

The man has confessed his sins and is getting treatment for his addiction. Are we not called to be forgiving?. As one who likes to enjoy in the occaisional game of chance, I understand his problem. Gambling is incredibly addicting and enticing. I usually go months in between excursions to keep my own compulsions in check. . I know the initial gut check, is to come down hard but I think we might want to relax a bit, and take this opportunity to show some compassion. After all, if our priests can't be forgiven, what does that say about us?

[Luminesa]

I know I'm usually not the one to take this road, but here goes.

The man has confessed his sins and is getting treatment for his addiction. Are we not called to be forgiving?. As one who likes to enjoy in the occaisional game of chance, I understand his problem. Gambling is incredibly addicting and enticing. I usually go months in between excursions to keep my own compulsions in check. . I know the initial gut check, is to come down hard but I think we might want to relax a bit, and take this opportunity to show some compassion. After all, if our priests can't be forgiven, what does that say about us?

He's getting treatment and all? Okay. Well, sure, I'll pray for him, then. If he had been unrepentant of it, that was what I was worried about. It's still a lot of money, and it's gonna be a lot of work to get that sort of money again, but forgiveness is the first step to recovery. So yeah.
I'll forgive him, but we still need to get that money...

Lord, open our hearts, so we may be more charitable to others. For we have all sinned, we are all responsible for nailing you to the cross, and we are responsible for our brothers and sisters. Have mercy on us and on the whole world.

[The Alexanderians]

I know I'm usually not the one to take this road, but here goes.

The man has confessed his sins and is getting treatment for his addiction. Are we not called to be forgiving?. As one who likes to enjoy in the occaisional game of chance, I understand his problem. Gambling is incredibly addicting and enticing. I usually go months in between excursions to keep my own compulsions in check. . I know the initial gut check, is to come down hard but I think we might want to relax a bit, and take this opportunity to show some compassion. After all, if our priests can't be forgiven, what does that say about us?

Still, the man needs to be defrocked. Forgiveness sure, but pissing away half a mil that wasn't even his to spend in the first place.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Donations, any number of sources. Alucard puts it colorfully.

At least Alucard didn't gamble away money meant to help refugees. God have mercy on this idiot's soul...

You're young, so you probably haven't gambled before.

I'll explain to you how this happens. I wouldn't call him an idiot, though that was my first initial reaction. The man is sick, he has gambling addiction. Gambling addiction works like this: (And sometimes not even those with addictions, sometimes they just don't know when to quit) You get a thrill off the game of chance, and your nucleus accumbens reinforces this desire until it becomes essentially an uncontrollable physical need. Anytime you get money, you're gonna bet it. Or maybe you can stave it off by circumstance, like the priest did, not having any money to gamble: but then you have access to this huge pot of dough. "Who's gonna notice a few hundred, gone for a couple hours, plus if I win I can help these refugees more" he justifies it to himself and then hits the tables. And then he loses that little bit. "Crap I don't have enough money to pay that back, I gotta win it back, I'll just win to break even and then leave" and then he keeps losing, and losing, and keeps trying to win that gap back and keeps losing. Before he knows it he's 500,000 in the hole, accounts empty and he has nothing left to play. (Which keep in mind, if this was in America the Casino would have been legally obligated to stop him, well before it got to that point. Dealers and Pit Bosses are supposed to be looking for those with an issue and cut them off. I don't know about Canadian law, or it's possible it happened too fast for them to pick up, could have been playing high stakes). Now he's swallowing the SOL pill and doing the only thing he can, calling his boss.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I know I'm usually not the one to take this road, but here goes.

The man has confessed his sins and is getting treatment for his addiction. Are we not called to be forgiving?. As one who likes to enjoy in the occaisional game of chance, I understand his problem. Gambling is incredibly addicting and enticing. I usually go months in between excursions to keep my own compulsions in check. . I know the initial gut check, is to come down hard but I think we might want to relax a bit, and take this opportunity to show some compassion. After all, if our priests can't be forgiven, what does that say about us?

Still, the man needs to be defrocked. Forgiveness sure, but pissing away half a mil that wasn't even his to spend in the first place.

Gambling Addiction is a powerful thing. I think suspension, with requirement of treatment and ongoing therapy after his return, is enough penance. And I'd say some sort of restitution, but honestly he's not gonna make that much back in any regard.

[Luminesa]

At least Alucard didn't gamble away money meant to help refugees. God have mercy on this idiot's soul...

You're young, so you probably haven't gambled before.

I'll explain to you how this happens. I wouldn't call him an idiot, though that was my first initial reaction. The man is sick, he has gambling addiction. Gambling addiction works like this: (And sometimes not even those with addictions, sometimes they just don't know when to quit) You get a thrill off the game of chance, and your nucleus accumbens reinforces this desire until it becomes essentially an uncontrollable physical need. Anytime you get money, you're gonna bet it. Or maybe you can stave it off by circumstance, like the priest did, not having any money to gamble: but then you have access to this huge pot of dough. "Who's gonna notice a few hundred, gone for a couple hours, plus if I win I can help these refugees more" he justifies it to himself and then hits the tables. And then he loses that little bit. "Crap I don't have enough money to pay that back, I gotta win it back, I'll just win to break even and then leave" and then he keeps losing, and losing, and keeps trying to win that gap back and keeps losing. Before he knows it he's 500,000 in the hole, accounts empty and he has nothing left to play. (Which keep in mind, if this was in America the Casino would have been legally obligated to stop him, well before it got to that point. Dealers and Pit Bosses are supposed to be looking for those with an issue and cut them off. I don't know about Canadian law, or it's possible it happened too fast for them to pick up, could have been playing high stakes). Now he's swallowing the SOL pill and doing the only thing he can, calling his boss.

Ah. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be insensitive. I didn't realize you had a gambling addiction at some point. Still friends?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

In other news:

A Chaldean Catholic priest gambled away $500 000 meant for refugees.

You sir. You sir.

Strip this punk of his duties immediately. If he wants to be a Good Time Charlie, he can go do that without a collar.

Also. How the flip did a parish priest get a hold of half a million dollars?! O.o

That's easy.

What's hard to believe is how come nobody really keeps checks on its priests to prevent this?

This is why I'm not too warm of church authority anymore (or giving tithes, for that matter). Small churches founded by independent religious people also do this.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

You're young, so you probably haven't gambled before.

I'll explain to you how this happens. I wouldn't call him an idiot, though that was my first initial reaction. The man is sick, he has gambling addiction. Gambling addiction works like this: (And sometimes not even those with addictions, sometimes they just don't know when to quit) You get a thrill off the game of chance, and your nucleus accumbens reinforces this desire until it becomes essentially an uncontrollable physical need. Anytime you get money, you're gonna bet it. Or maybe you can stave it off by circumstance, like the priest did, not having any money to gamble: but then you have access to this huge pot of dough. "Who's gonna notice a few hundred, gone for a couple hours, plus if I win I can help these refugees more" he justifies it to himself and then hits the tables. And then he loses that little bit. "Crap I don't have enough money to pay that back, I gotta win it back, I'll just win to break even and then leave" and then he keeps losing, and losing, and keeps trying to win that gap back and keeps losing. Before he knows it he's 500,000 in the hole, accounts empty and he has nothing left to play. (Which keep in mind, if this was in America the Casino would have been legally obligated to stop him, well before it got to that point. Dealers and Pit Bosses are supposed to be looking for those with an issue and cut them off. I don't know about Canadian law, or it's possible it happened too fast for them to pick up, could have been playing high stakes). Now he's swallowing the SOL pill and doing the only thing he can, calling his boss.

Ah. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be insensitive. I didn't realize you had a gambling addiction at some point. Still friends?

No offense taken. I don't have a gambling addiction, but I do have a bit of an addictive personality. And while I don't have the addiction, I understand it. Gambling is a ton of fun. And I do it like my father taught me, you only bet money you can afford to lose, take the money out before you get to the casino, and never bring your atm card. That keeps it from becoming a profit game, and just having a good time. (I also just keep to poker, more skill less gambling). Make sure you have at least 2 months between trips, and you can keep it pretty safe. Remember you're just paying for some fun, and if you make some money well that's good too.

[Coulee Croche]

What people from outside Louisiana think about Louisiana:

1.) Everything is New Orleans or swamp.

2.) Everything is Cajun.

3.) Everyone knows voodoo.

4.) Everyone is French.

5.) All of the above.

What you actually need to know about Louisiana:

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

3.) Everything above it is Texiana.

4.) And most people here still don't know voodoo. XD

I always just said everything above Alexandria is redneck; Texan, Arkansas, and Mississippi

[Czechanada]

Ah. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be insensitive. I didn't realize you had a gambling addiction at some point. Still friends?

No offense taken. I don't have a gambling addiction, but I do have a bit of an addictive personality. And while I don't have the addiction, I understand it. Gambling is a ton of fun. And I do it like my father taught me, you only bet money you can afford to lose, take the money out before you get to the casino, and never bring your atm card. That keeps it from becoming a profit game, and just having a good time. (I also just keep to poker, more skill less gambling). Make sure you have at least 2 months between trips, and you can keep it pretty safe. Remember you're just paying for some fun, and if you make some money well that's good too.

Exactly. Better to gamble one's own money away and enjoy than to tithe it and risk it being wasted in this case.