The Christian Discussion Thread VI

[Cill Airne]

To be entirely honest, I'd reenlist if it meant deploying to fight ISIS if I could (I, however, can't).

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

California's got a lot of Catholics, and they'll move eastward into the sea!

I can guarantee you Louisiana has plenty as well.

Are you from Louisiana? If so, automatically get extra coolness points.

[Diopolis]

Random Musings. If someone brings back the crusades, it won't be pope Francis.

I don't know...I bet under that nice and friendly exterior is an iron-fisted Conquistador of Justice

I can see that. He's certainly not as liberal as they say.

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

I would not fight if it were a Crusade. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Sometimes it is necessary to fight.

[Diopolis]

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

In truth, it's probably not. But if there is no other answer...

I can guarantee you Louisiana has plenty as well.

Are you from Louisiana? If so, automatically get extra coolness points.

Despite my ribbing about it being the Illinois of the south, Louisiana is my favorite non-Texan state. It's pretty cool.

[Qesnubar]

To be entirely honest, I'd reenlist if it meant deploying to fight ISIS if I could (I, however, can't).

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

Actually I don't believe a crusade were to be necessary. My History teacher always says "Jesus conquered all of the Roman Empire without firing a shot." That could happen again, but with a much larger enemy, Muhammad.

[Qesnubar]

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

Actually I don't believe a crusade were to be necessary. My History teacher always says "Jesus conquered all of the Roman Empire without firing a shot." That could happen again, but with a much larger enemy, Muhammad.

Well to be more spasific Shia Islam

[Diopolis]

Actually I don't believe a crusade were to be necessary. My History teacher always says "Jesus conquered all of the Roman Empire without firing a shot." That could happen again, but with a much larger enemy, Muhammad.

Well to be more spasific Shia Islam

Shia's aren't the problem. The muslims persecuting Christians are mostly Sunni's.

[New confederate ramenia]

Why do so many people want another crusade when we lost most of them?

Also, why do so many people (not on NSG) think Pope Francis is liberal or modernist? I recently started reading Laudato Si, and it's really anti-modernist.

[New confederate ramenia]

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

In truth, it's probably not. But if there is no other answer...

Are you from Louisiana? If so, automatically get extra coolness points.

Despite my ribbing about it being the Illinois of the south, Louisiana is my favorite non-Texan state. It's pretty cool.

What do you mean by Illinois of the south?

[Jumalariik]

Sad to hear about Mother Angelica. Let us pray for her.

Awwwwww!

Well, we know she's definitely in Heaven. Jesus didn't want her to stay on Earth to celebrate Easter, He wanted her right up with Him.

Thanks and God bless, Mother Angelica, for your amazing program and for EWTN in itself. You were such a sweet, beautiful, wise, and funny lady, and I liked hearing your words of wisdom, whether they were on the radio or on TV. Most importantly, without EWTN, I wouldn't have progressed in my faith as I have, over the years. My mom has EWTN on all the time. Your convent in Alabama is beautiful, and we will keep you and your sisters in our prayers. Go with God, and tell Mamma Mary I said hi! We'll miss you, but hopefully we'll all see you again soon! :3

Alright! Now let's start praying for her intercession so she can get canonized! This sweet nun deserves some recognition in the church! Who's with me?

Though not a Catholic, I did enjoy her show quite a bit.

I do hope she is in heaven, it can be assumed she is.
Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

[Diopolis]

Why do so many people want another crusade when we lost most of them?

Also, why do so many people (not on NSG) think Pope Francis is liberal or modernist? I recently started reading Laudato Si, and it's really anti-modernist.

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

In truth, it's probably not. But if there is no other answer...

Despite my ribbing about it being the Illinois of the south, Louisiana is my favorite non-Texan state. It's pretty cool.

What do you mean by Illinois of the south?

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

[Luminesa]

Why do so many people want another crusade when we lost most of them?

Also, why do so many people (not on NSG) think Pope Francis is liberal or modernist? I recently started reading Laudato Si, and it's really anti-modernist.

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

What do you mean by Illinois of the south?

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

What people from outside Louisiana think about Louisiana:

1.) Everything is New Orleans or swamp.

2.) Everything is Cajun.

3.) Everyone knows voodoo.

4.) Everyone is French.

5.) All of the above.

What you actually need to know about Louisiana:

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

3.) Everything above it is Texiana.

4.) And most people here still don't know voodoo. XD

[Muinordgrad]

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

What people from outside Louisiana think about Louisiana:

1.) Everything is New Orleans or swamp.

2.) Everything is Cajun.

3.) Everyone knows voodoo.

4.) Everyone is French.

5.) All of the above.

What you actually need to know about Louisiana:

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

3.) Everything above it is Texiana.

4.) And most people here still don't know voodoo. XD

Reminds me of Georgia: anyone to the East and North of I-16 are generally your cultured Sothorn folk and are actually better than most places in the south. To the west and south, however... you better pack enough guns to fight off a small army. Like, there are rumors of Confederate holdouts down in that crap.

[Salus Maior]

The thing is, fire a Crusade and you're going to make enemies of EVERY MUSLIM in the Middle East. Probably the world over. And that's EXACTLY what ISIS wants.

So, all in all, a Crusade's just not a good idea. Fun thought, but really impractical.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

The thing is, fire a Crusade and you're going to make enemies of EVERY MUSLIM in the Middle East. Probably the world over. And that's EXACTLY what ISIS wants.

So, all in all, a Crusade's just not a good idea. Fun thought, but really impractical.

Not if you do it right

[Muinordgrad]

The thing is, fire a Crusade and you're going to make enemies of EVERY MUSLIM in the Middle East. Probably the world over. And that's EXACTLY what ISIS wants.

So, all in all, a Crusade's just not a good idea. Fun thought, but really impractical.

Also, there are about the same chances of Pope Francis calling a crusade as I do of becoming pope within the next three weeks.

[Salus Maior]

The thing is, fire a Crusade and you're going to make enemies of EVERY MUSLIM in the Middle East. Probably the world over. And that's EXACTLY what ISIS wants.

So, all in all, a Crusade's just not a good idea. Fun thought, but really impractical.

Not if you do it right

There's really no doing it right. Come on, you have to know how demonized the Crusades are in the Middle East? Hell, people freaked out when Bush called the Iraq invasion a "crusade" in a rather poorly thought out speech.

I'm for intervention against ISIS, but the Church can't really do anything that'd help militarily.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Not if you do it right

There's really no doing it right. Come on, you have to know how demonized the Crusades are in the Middle East? Hell, people freaked out when Bush called the Iraq invasion a "crusade" in a rather poorly thought out speech.

I'm for intervention against ISIS, but the Church can't really do anything that'd help militarily.

It's a vastly different world now, warfare has changed. At the time of the crusades logistics was nearly unheard of. You fed and paid your troops with whatever you could pillage. The type of widespread desecration we saw in the crusades would be avoided simply with modern logistics. with competent leaders you could have a "crusade" without the overtly negative stuff

[Salus Maior]

There's really no doing it right. Come on, you have to know how demonized the Crusades are in the Middle East? Hell, people freaked out when Bush called the Iraq invasion a "crusade" in a rather poorly thought out speech.

I'm for intervention against ISIS, but the Church can't really do anything that'd help militarily.

It's a vastly different world now, warfare has changed. At the time of the crusades logistics was nearly unheard of. You fed and paid your troops with whatever you could pillage. The type of widespread desecration we saw in the crusades would be avoided simply with modern logistics. with competent leaders you could have a "crusade" without the overtly negative stuff

That doesn't change how "Crusade" itself is perceived in the Middle Eastern mind. It would be a whole lot less trouble to simply have a secular campaign. The Church shouldn't be directing it's funds to military-building anyway.

[Grenartia]

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

I can guarantee you Louisiana has plenty as well.

Are you from Louisiana? If so, automatically get extra coolness points.

She's not the only one, either.

I don't know...I bet under that nice and friendly exterior is an iron-fisted Conquistador of Justice

I can see that. He's certainly not as liberal as they say.

I would not fight if it were a Crusade. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Sometimes it is necessary to fight.

I never said it wasn't. In fact, my wholehearted belief in that is probably the number one reason I'm not a Quaker. However, a Crusade is never the answer. You can't fight religously-motivated violence with more religiously-motivated violence. At least, not while being able to claim any moral high ground, or any hope of God's blessing.

Why do so many people want another crusade when we lost most of them?

Also, why do so many people (not on NSG) think Pope Francis is liberal or modernist? I recently started reading Laudato Si, and it's really anti-modernist.

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

What do you mean by Illinois of the south?

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

I should correct you in that the Gulf STILL defines Louisiana's economy. Also, New Orleans' best days are ahead of it.

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

What people from outside Louisiana think about Louisiana:

1.) Everything is New Orleans or swamp.

2.) Everything is Cajun.

3.) Everyone knows voodoo.

4.) Everyone is French.

5.) All of the above.

What you actually need to know about Louisiana:

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

3.) Everything above it is Texiana.

4.) And most people here still don't know voodoo. XD

Nah, everything above it is either Texas or Arkansas. I'm not quite sure which is worse.

It's a vastly different world now, warfare has changed. At the time of the crusades logistics was nearly unheard of. You fed and paid your troops with whatever you could pillage. The type of widespread desecration we saw in the crusades would be avoided simply with modern logistics. with competent leaders you could have a "crusade" without the overtly negative stuff

That doesn't change how "Crusade" itself is perceived in the Middle Eastern mind. It would be a whole lot less trouble to simply have a secular campaign. The Church shouldn't be directing it's funds to military-building anyway.

Violence and hatred in the name of religion is not only inherently bad, it empowers every Richard Dawkins wannabe.

[Jochistan]

Well to be more spasific Shia Islam

Shia's aren't the problem. The muslims persecuting Christians are mostly Sunni's.

And the Sunnis pereculting Christians are almost always Salafi Wahhabis.

[Jochistan]

I personally have health problems that would keep me off the front lines, but if there was a crusade I would certainly dedicate prayers to it. And probably be willing to serve in support roles if I could.

Actually I don't believe a crusade were to be necessary. My History teacher always says "Jesus conquered all of the Roman Empire without firing a shot." That could happen again, but with a much larger enemy, Muhammad.

You do realize that's putting Yazidis and Bahai'i as your enemy too, right?

[Luminesa]

I messed up my knee fairly badly during my time in the army. But, like you, i'd join it (even as an Anglican) in a support role if possible and if they were actively taking the fight to Daesh. Of course, I don't think a Crusade is necessarily the best answer to Daesh, it is, however, an answer. Why, should active war be declared against Daesh, I'd still try to reenlist to serve in any way capable.

Are you from Louisiana? If so, automatically get extra coolness points.

She's not the only one, either.

I can see that. He's certainly not as liberal as they say.

Sometimes it is necessary to fight.

I never said it wasn't. In fact, my wholehearted belief in that is probably the number one reason I'm not a Quaker. However, a Crusade is never the answer. You can't fight religously-motivated violence with more religiously-motivated violence. At least, not while being able to claim any moral high ground, or any hope of God's blessing.

Probably because he uses liberal or modernist language to express ideas that are not that. Also because he gets criticized a lot by the factions most blatantly opposed to modernism.

Home to two very different cultures: Generic rural southern and Cajun/Creole in Louisiana's case, Chicago and generic rural midwestern in Illinois. Has one enormous city, and a democratic party that manages to be a major force despite having no success outside of it. A reputation for corruption. Both on major bodies of water that (used to)define their economies. Both have biggest cities that are definitely past their glory days, and which used to be the economic centers of their respective regions. Both used to be mafia hubs(and in one case, still is; Louisiana crushed the dixie mafia fairly brutally).

I should correct you in that the Gulf STILL defines Louisiana's economy. Also, New Orleans' best days are ahead of it.

What people from outside Louisiana think about Louisiana:

1.) Everything is New Orleans or swamp.

2.) Everything is Cajun.

3.) Everyone knows voodoo.

4.) Everyone is French.

5.) All of the above.

What you actually need to know about Louisiana:

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

3.) Everything above it is Texiana.

4.) And most people here still don't know voodoo. XD

Nah, everything above it is either Texas or Arkansas. I'm not quite sure which is worse.

That doesn't change how "Crusade" itself is perceived in the Middle Eastern mind. It would be a whole lot less trouble to simply have a secular campaign. The Church shouldn't be directing it's funds to military-building anyway.

Violence and hatred in the name of religion is not only inherently bad, it empowers every Richard Dawkins wannabe.

I'd say it's all Texas, about Alexandria.

And the last bit...true...

[Salus Maior]

At first I was like
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But then I was like
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I almost missed this gem

[Salus Maior]

Hey, At least We can destroy ISIS and Retake the Holy Land!!

And kill Jews along the way like before? Again, let's not... a lot of Christians on this site know where I live...

Well, in the First Crusade specifically, the Church condemned the "people's crusade" which had committed the atrocities on the European Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland ... h_response

[Constantinopolis]

1.) Here is Alexandria.

2.) Everything below Alexandria is Cajun.

Reminds me of Georgia: anyone to the East and North of I-16 are generally your cultured Sothorn folk and are actually better than most places in the south. To the west and south, however... you better pack enough guns to fight off a small army. Like, there are rumors of Confederate holdouts down in that crap.

Alexandria? Georgia? I'm so confused.