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Best Korean fast/street food

Jjajangmyeon
4
10%
Jjamppong
1
3%
Tangsuyuk
2
5%
Fried chicken (incl. yangnyeom chicken)
17
43%
Gimbap
6
15%
Tteokbokki
3
8%
Dakkochi
0
No votes
Odeng
2
5%
Sundae
3
8%
Other
2
5%
 
Total votes : 40

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Postby Gigaverse » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:07 pm

Tuthina wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Regarding Korean and other languages spoken in the East Asian cultural sphere...

I think learning some hanja has been really helpful in helping me acquire and retain new Korean vocabulary, as well as to remember the spellings for words and how to pronounce them exactly.

The borrowed words have also been really helpful in trying to pick up Japanese and Mandarin, although I wish for Mandarin knowing them would also help me remember tones... :(

Probably not as much as Mandarin, considering that many words in Mandarin sounds a lot different compared with Hanja, Hanzi, the Vietnamese one and other Chinese dialects/languages like Cantonese. :p

I would say more often than not it is not worth the troubles to learn how to write Chinese characters, although a case could be made about Korean (and Japanese) lacking in tones that would otherwise distinguish between the already-numerous homophones.

Also I have been learning Korean on that website, but my progress is slow. I mean, I can read (most) Hangul without assistance, but that is about it. The inflections seem to be pretty difficult for an analytic language speaker as well.

Now I'm glad I'm Vietnamese. Kinda gives me that edge in linguistics. :twisted:
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:13 pm

woahhHHHHHhhh who is the other korean on the poll?

reveal yourself quick
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Postby Gim » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:42 pm

Arumdaum wrote:woahhHHHHHhhh who is the other korean on the poll?

reveal yourself quick


Another Korean buddy! I'm thrilled to know!
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:33 am

Tuthina wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Regarding Korean and other languages spoken in the East Asian cultural sphere...

I think learning some hanja has been really helpful in helping me acquire and retain new Korean vocabulary, as well as to remember the spellings for words and how to pronounce them exactly.

The borrowed words have also been really helpful in trying to pick up Japanese and Mandarin, although I wish for Mandarin knowing them would also help me remember tones... :(

Probably not as much as Mandarin, considering that many words in Mandarin sounds a lot different compared with Hanja, Hanzi, the Vietnamese one and other Chinese dialects/languages like Cantonese. :p

I would say more often than not it is not worth the troubles to learn how to write Chinese characters, although a case could be made about Korean (and Japanese) lacking in tones that would otherwise distinguish between the already-numerous homophones.

Also I have been learning Korean on that website, but my progress is slow. I mean, I can read (most) Hangul without assistance, but that is about it. The inflections seem to be pretty difficult for an analytic language speaker as well.

Yeah, not as much Mandarin, haha.

But still, a lot :p

taiyang = taeyang
taipingyang = taepyeongyang
meiguo = miguk

and so on...

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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:41 am

I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.
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Postby Tuthina » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:49 am

Arumdaum wrote:Yeah, not as much Mandarin, haha.

But still, a lot :p

taiyang = taeyang
taipingyang = taepyeongyang
meiguo = miguk

and so on...

How much time have you been spending on it?

If you need any practice...~~

The ai = ae part is made even more obvious if you use a transliteration scheme that reflects the composition of individual alphabets in digraphs, as ㅐ(ae)=ㅏ(a)+ㅣ(i), which was probably how it was pronounced when Hangul was first invented, but has since undergo a shift towards the current sound.

Gim wrote:I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.


Sounds highly unlikely to me, given that evidence of any kind of centralised state in East Asia we now know rarely pre-dates 3000-4000 BC, and an Empire of that magnitude would have left a lot more evidence for its existence. The strange lack of native Korean writing system until the invention of Hangul also makes maintaining such a huge empire borderline impossible.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:05 am

Gim wrote:I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.

I found it!

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환국... ㅋㅋ

Unfortunately, it's not at all real, and doesn't make any sense historically ㅠㅠ lol
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Postby Ainin » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:12 am

Gim wrote:I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.

Absolutely none.

A large empire in the early Neolithic defies all modern knowledge about ancient history.
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:58 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Gim wrote:I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.

I found it!

Image


Image


Image


Image


환국... ㅋㅋ

Unfortunately, it's not at all real, and doesn't make any sense historically ㅠㅠ lol

Mother of God...

It sounds even less likely than ancient astronaut, to be frank.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:37 am

whooooOOoo are the second and third koreans goddammit
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Quebec? Parhe? Oscalantine?

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I think I've just named every Korean ever on NS
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:44 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Gim wrote:I was wondering: There is speculation that a gigantic empire that covered basically all of Asia existed during 7000 BC by the Koreans. I forgot the name of it, and I was wondering how much valid evidence there are, as far as the "empire" is concerned.

I found it!

Image


Image


Image


Image


환국... ㅋㅋ

Unfortunately, it's not at all real, and doesn't make any sense historically ㅠㅠ lol


Wasn't there a document, which Japanese or Chinese people took and changed one letter in it, which invalidated the existence of that empire?
I'm not too sure, but that is what I heard from some people, not necessarily claiming that it is true. :p
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Postby Tuthina » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:49 pm

Gim wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I found it!

Image


Image


Image


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환국... ㅋㅋ

Unfortunately, it's not at all real, and doesn't make any sense historically ㅠㅠ lol


Wasn't there a document, which Japanese or Chinese people took and changed one letter in it, which invalidated the existence of that empire?
I'm not too sure, but that is what I heard from some people, not necessarily claiming that it is true. :p

One would assume such a huge empire would leave more evidence outside Chinese or Japanese reach. :p
It is true that China and Japan have a history of pissing on Korea as part of the regional mess, but it seems unlikely that such a conspiracy would be as successful as the claim makes it out to be, so personally I am not very convinced.
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Tuthina wrote:One would assume such a huge empire would leave more evidence outside Chinese or Japanese reach. :p
It is true that China and Japan have a history of pissing on Korea as part of the regional mess, but it seems unlikely that such a conspiracy would be as successful as the claim makes it out to be, so personally I am not very convinced.


It is true there was a tension between the three nations, but Korea, despite being a small nation, was able to win wars and stay united, hence their history and presence surviving even to this very day.

Well, there is not really much evidence; I'd say the probability of that becoming true is about 1%.
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Postby Tuthina » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:59 pm

Gim wrote:
Tuthina wrote:One would assume such a huge empire would leave more evidence outside Chinese or Japanese reach. :p
It is true that China and Japan have a history of pissing on Korea as part of the regional mess, but it seems unlikely that such a conspiracy would be as successful as the claim makes it out to be, so personally I am not very convinced.


It is true there was a tension between the three nations, but Korea, despite being a small nation, was able to win wars and stay united, hence their history and presence surviving even to this very day.

Well, there is not really much evidence; I'd say the probability of that becoming true is about 1%.

Yes, Korea is quite remarkable in its unity against foreign aggression, which might be one of the main reasons that it remains independent in a location sandwiched between China and Japan. It is very interesting, indeed.
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:04 pm

Tuthina wrote:
Gim wrote:
It is true there was a tension between the three nations, but Korea, despite being a small nation, was able to win wars and stay united, hence their history and presence surviving even to this very day.

Well, there is not really much evidence; I'd say the probability of that becoming true is about 1%.

Yes, Korea is quite remarkable in its unity against foreign aggression, which might be one of the main reasons that it remains independent in a location sandwiched between China and Japan. It is very interesting, indeed.


Its military achievements are impeccable, considering the fact that they were outnumbered in most of the time.
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Postby Parhe » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:22 pm

Arumdaum wrote:Quebec? Parhe? Oscalantine?

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I think I've just named every Korean ever on NS

I voted just now. So it was not me earlier.

I've actually become fluent in Hangul since I've begun really looking into it a couple of years ago. Though, I am not sure fluent is the right word for a written form.
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:23 pm

Parhe wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Quebec? Parhe? Oscalantine?

Blitzkrenia (rip)?

I think I've just named every Korean ever on NS

I voted just now. So it was not me earlier.


Great to see you! :)
Do you speak Korean?
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Postby Parhe » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:25 pm

Gim wrote:
Parhe wrote:I voted just now. So it was not me earlier.


Great to see you! :)
Do you speak Korean?

I speak Korean, though with an accent. Raised in the US, mainly different parts of Texas.

My accent, though, is a result of my tied tongue, not me being raised in America, since I have same accent issues when speaking English.
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:28 pm

Parhe wrote:
Gim wrote:
Great to see you! :)
Do you speak Korean?

I speak Korean, though with an accent. Raised in the US, mainly different parts of Texas.

My accent, though, is a result of my tied tongue, not me being raised in America, since I have same accent issues when speaking English.


You know we are allowed to write in Korean here.
Perhaps, that might help you on your Korean writing, at least. :)
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Postby Parhe » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:37 pm

Gim wrote:
Parhe wrote:I speak Korean, though with an accent. Raised in the US, mainly different parts of Texas.

My accent, though, is a result of my tied tongue, not me being raised in America, since I have same accent issues when speaking English.


You know we are allowed to write in Korean here.
Perhaps, that might help you on your Korean writing, at least. :)

I can speak, understand, read, and write Korean. What I cannot do well, however, is use grammar properly. I would say I plan to get better, but I quit studying Korean beyond speaking with family.
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:09 pm

Parhe wrote:
Gim wrote:
You know we are allowed to write in Korean here.
Perhaps, that might help you on your Korean writing, at least. :)

I can speak, understand, read, and write Korean. What I cannot do well, however, is use grammar properly. I would say I plan to get better, but I quit studying Korean beyond speaking with family.


Are you full-Korean or mixed? :)
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Postby Parhe » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:23 pm

Gim wrote:
Parhe wrote:I can speak, understand, read, and write Korean. What I cannot do well, however, is use grammar properly. I would say I plan to get better, but I quit studying Korean beyond speaking with family.


Are you full-Korean or mixed? :)

Full Korean. I have a lot of mixed cousins, though. Part Mexican, Part Japanese, Part Vietnamese. You?
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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:25 pm

Parhe wrote:
Gim wrote:
Are you full-Korean or mixed? :)

Full Korean. I have a lot of mixed cousins, though. Part Mexican, Part Japanese, Part Vietnamese. You?


I'm not, but I studied in Korea once. :)
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:26 pm

Gonna have to print out or paint the Korean characters on the relevant places on my keyboard. I wish there was a more efficient way to type Korean than glorified spell check putting the words together.
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