Atheists why do you all hate Christians?

[Dyakovo]

Sorry.

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

[Pinnopia]

Sorry.

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Yeah, I can be too literal at times and innocent...

Well, that blows! I was curious as to what she would say.

[Dyakovo]

Sorry.

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Yeah, I can be too literal at times and innocent...

Well, that blows! I was curious as to what she would say.

Based on her last two statements (i.e. "There's plenty of evidence for the flood" and "the grand canyon was not formed by erosion") nothing reasonable.

[Aggicificicerous]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

[Pinnopia]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

OH NO YOU DID NOT! THAT CIRCULAR LOGIC DOES NOT WORK!

[Techophiles]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

[Dyakovo]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

[Blitzkrenia]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

You are arguing that A is B because B is A because A is B, without giving any proof that either A or B is true. That is a total logical fallacy.

[Dyakovo]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

You are arguing that A is B because B is A, without giving any proof that either A or B is true. That is a total logical fallacy.

I think his post was satirical...

[Blitzkrenia]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

You are arguing that A is B because B is A, without giving any proof that either A or B is true. That is a total logical fallacy.

I think his post was satirical...

Now that I've looked through a couple of his posts, I'm a bit torn. I'll have to look in to it a bit further. That is a common argument, though.

[Pinnopia]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

You are arguing that A is B because B is A, without giving any proof that either A or B is true. That is a total logical fallacy.

I think his post was satirical...

I dunno some people are that stupid. :I

[Dyakovo]

LOL, no problem.

I think we scared her away.

Well, let me try.

*ahem*

All processes that you have mentioned take great periods of time, millions of years even. We know that cannot be true as the bible explicitly and exactly gives the earth's age at about 6,000 years. So because we know the earth is 6,000 years old, we also know the bible to be true. All of it. Thus I have disproven evolution and proved the bible to be the unerring word of God. QED.

You are arguing that A is B because B is A, without giving any proof that either A or B is true. That is a total logical fallacy.

I think his post was satirical...

Now that I've looked through a couple of his posts, I'm a bit torn. I'll have to look in to it a bit further. That is a common argument, though.

True... I'm not basing my thinking the post was satirical on his posting history (I don't recognize the name) more on wishful thinking.

I think his post was satirical...

I dunno some people are that stupid. :I

Aye

[DaWoad]

Only if you can come up with something that is true of all christians.

Before posting giberish read hystory to find out the simply evil things that have been done due to your creationisam.

Am I the only one that found the underlined funny?

Also . . .it's pretty clear that Dyakovo isn't *cough* enamoured with religion.

[Techophiles]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

You completely missed the point, again name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

[South Norwega]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

You completely missed the point, again name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

Christianity has always had sects and subsects?

What's your estimate for the number of deaths caused by Christianity, and could you source the number, please?

Then I'd be able to find some, most likely.

[DaWoad]

your reasons for hating christians are BS due to the fact that not all christians do those things.

Many² do and they make others who will do such things. The only way to stop this is to wipe out all religion of any sort.³

1) Fixed your quote to show who actually wrote what you're responding to.
2) Not "many" "some"
3) So you're one of those that ignorantly believes that religion only fosters evil Wiping out all religion is both not possible and not desirable.

I beg to differ.

There is a way to end religion, world hunger, poverty and wars at the same time.
These devices are called thermonuclear warheads (or nukes). If sufficient numbers of these were to be detonated with inter meshing blast throughout the world, there is a 90% chance of all of the world's problems being solved.

Its still undesirable though.

Fine...
Short of wiping out all of humanity it is not possible to wipe out religion.

I feel I have to point out - in the event of nuclear extermination of the whole human species... cockroaches may well survive, and we don't know much about their religious leanings.

It's entirely possible that religion could survive the destruction of humans.

contrary to common belief, cockroaches cannot survive the nuclear blast, but can survive the radioactive fallout due to having significantly less cells. In any case, the detonation of sufficient nuclear weapons should destroy enough of the biosphere that all life will be extinguished eventually. (ash will be hurled to the upper atmosphere, thus blocking sun light, which kills all the plants and therefore the rest of the animals, who would not have anything to eat.)

Thermophiles would probably survive (those deep sea creature that have built ecosystems around thermal vents at the bottom of the oceans).

[Dyakovo]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

You completely missed the point, again name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

Communism. Capitalism. Shall I go on? Yes those aren't organizations, but then again neither is christianity.

[DaWoad]

They don't hate christians; they hate how christians think a single book of fiction counts as sufficient evidence to prove everything they believe in.

It's not even a very good book.

Hmm...maybe that's offensive? Have you read it?

It's offensive to you that other people have different taste than you? Methinks you need to grow a thicker skin.

Oh, it's not that. But calling the Bible fiction blatantly when it is categorized as non-fiction?

Lack of corroborating evidence points towards it being quite likely that it is indeed fictional, also the fact that portions of it being completely impossible also point to it being fictional.

What about the historical records, and the supporting evidence from other sources?

You mean like the historical records that show London really exists... By Jove you've proven that Harry Potter is not a work of fiction.

Well, in another universe... It might prove to be reality.

Actually, this means that anything and everything could be true outside of our own universe.

Course, we still don't know whether or not God exists in this universe, and whether or not he just acts through rules that he put in place. You know, like some of us gamers play through an entire level completely naked (Fable, damn it!). His could have been "never allow us enough evidence to know for certain, while planting the idea that he could exist," and "act only through these certain laws of what will come to be called by these people "physics" or "nature" or "etc."

then why has his level of direct involvement decreased over the course of recorded human history? I mean she starts by making the . . .according to you Universe, then the world, then all the laws to make every go (wheee) then he puts a time limit on it (see: eventual heat death of the universe) and creates all kinds of things from scratch . . .gives direct instructions (adam eve), gives indirect instructions (all kindsa prophets), sends her avatar into the world (thats right . . .christ as a gaming sprite . . .wait doesn't this constitute an escalation in direct involvement?), annnnnd then back to prophets, then only Saints (maybe?), and now the pope and crazy people only (and i'm not so sure about the pope).

If it was a game I'd expect a more consistent level of involvement (except for the creation thing) and why bother with an afterlife?

[Techophiles]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

You completely missed the point, again name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

Communism. Capitalism. Shall I go on? Yes those aren't organizations, but then again neither is christianity.

You would be wrong in both of those those statement (although they have many evils of their own). Organized Religion is responsible for Millions upon Millions of deaths and of the Organized Religions Christianity is the bloodiest followed by Islam. Neither of them are good for your health. Especially if your a non believer. I hate Christians because they have a long bloody history of ignorance and intolerance!!!

[DaWoad]

Its not just you Christians, its all religions. Please consider the amount of witch hunts, exorcisms, cleansing, Jihads, suicide bombings, Disgusting acts of guilt tripping $$ out of the people that cant afford their next meal so a teleavangalist can buy his 3rd benz, Child sacrifices, mutulations, molestations, and Wars are committed in the name of God. This is a very short list of the really fucked up things that are done in the name of Faith.

How many people have been killed in the name of God. Name me an organization that is responsible for the deaths of more humans than Christianity. Jesus got on the cross for what (not that Jesus actually existed, but if he did it was all in vain).

Man would be better off without Religion!!

Hardly, many of the advances that made modern science possible would not have existed (at least not as early as they did) without religion. The anti-science tendencies of christianity (mainly evangelical christianity) are actually a fairly recent occcurence.

You completely missed the point, again name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

Communism. Capitalism. Shall I go on? Yes those aren't organizations, but then again neither is christianity.

I'm . .. not sure I agree. Communism didn't really kill all that many people in a grand scale type thing when compared to religion (think more than two thousand years of wars, genocides, crusades, witch hunts, inquisitions and misionnaries with pleasent smallpox infested blankets) nor did capitalism. in truth i think Religion has been the most destructive single cause in history but I'm not sure that without religion people would not have rallied around some other cause.

[Dyakovo]

Name an organization that is responsible for more deaths than Christianity?

Communism. Capitalism. Shall I go on? Yes those aren't organizations, but then again neither is christianity.

You would be wrong in both of those those statement.

Prove it.

Organized Religion is responsible for Millions upon Millions of deaths

Shifting the goalposts already?

I hate Christians because they have a long bloody history of ignorance and intolerance!!!

To which you respond with ignorance and intolerance...
Bravo! You are what you hate.

[DaWoad]

Let me see. Dyakovo, you're an atheist, right? Do you hate all Christians?

Yes, I am and no I do not. I do hate some christians, but it isn't because they are christian, it is because they are annoying fuckwads.

*nods* Right. And what prompts this? The defense of their faith, perhaps? Or is it your own arrogance in believing they are all stupid and blind to follow a "fictional" religion? Just saying...

I'm sure I provoke it on occasion, but mostly I was thinking of the fundies who want to make their beliefs law. Also, I don't think people are stupid for being religious, nor does the bible being a fictional account mean that christianity is not correct.

And why not make it law? Christianity merits a few benefits...

have you heard of the spanish inquisiton? . . .thats what happens when religion becomes law. children are taken from parents, freethinkers are prosecuted, tortured then burned and people gain power for the worst of reasons and some of the stupidest most biggoted ideas in history suddenly become law because a "holy book" says it should be so.

[Resolute Prime]

your reasons for hating christians are BS due to the fact that not all christians do those things.

Many² do and they make others who will do such things. The only way to stop this is to wipe out all religion of any sort.³

1) Fixed your quote to show who actually wrote what you're responding to.
2) Not "many" "some"
3) So you're one of those that ignorantly believes that religion only fosters evil Wiping out all religion is both not possible and not desirable.

I beg to differ.

There is a way to end religion, world hunger, poverty and wars at the same time.
These devices are called thermonuclear warheads (or nukes). If sufficient numbers of these were to be detonated with inter meshing blast throughout the world, there is a 90% chance of all of the world's problems being solved.

Its still undesirable though.

Fine...
Short of wiping out all of humanity it is not possible to wipe out religion.

I feel I have to point out - in the event of nuclear extermination of the whole human species... cockroaches may well survive, and we don't know much about their religious leanings.

It's entirely possible that religion could survive the destruction of humans.

contrary to common belief, cockroaches cannot survive the nuclear blast, but can survive the radioactive fallout due to having significantly less cells. In any case, the detonation of sufficient nuclear weapons should destroy enough of the biosphere that all life will be extinguished eventually. (ash will be hurled to the upper atmosphere, thus blocking sun light, which kills all the plants and therefore the rest of the animals, who would not have anything to eat.)

Thermophiles would probably survive (those deep sea creature that have built ecosystems around thermal vents at the bottom of the oceans).

No, I don't think so. The heat from multiple nuclear detonations across the globe (and I did mean all surfaces, seas and oceans included) will flash-vaporize and evaporate a significant (think 40-60%) of the world's ocean. If the creatures do survive the heat and shock wave (a lot worse in water than on land), the creatures would still probably die due to the fact that a) there is little-to no oxygen left, (or, at the very least, no way to create more, since all plants are dead). or b) they will be killed by the sudden drop of sea pressure.

[DaWoad]

No, there isn't. There isn't a single bit of geological evidence supporting the flood.

How are fossils formed?

Aren't there like tons of ways for fossils to be formed like with tree sap and lava...not just water.

water can't be used to create fossils. Sediment at the bottom of a lake (*coughs*mud . . .but really old mud?) can but water alone cannot. (also, yes, there are all kinds of other ways in which fossils can form. Ash strata for one thing (think pompei) or mud, swamp, desert . . .etc.

[DaWoad]

your reasons for hating christians are BS due to the fact that not all christians do those things.

Many² do and they make others who will do such things. The only way to stop this is to wipe out all religion of any sort.³

1) Fixed your quote to show who actually wrote what you're responding to.
2) Not "many" "some"
3) So you're one of those that ignorantly believes that religion only fosters evil Wiping out all religion is both not possible and not desirable.

I beg to differ.

There is a way to end religion, world hunger, poverty and wars at the same time.
These devices are called thermonuclear warheads (or nukes). If sufficient numbers of these were to be detonated with inter meshing blast throughout the world, there is a 90% chance of all of the world's problems being solved.

Its still undesirable though.

Fine...
Short of wiping out all of humanity it is not possible to wipe out religion.

I feel I have to point out - in the event of nuclear extermination of the whole human species... cockroaches may well survive, and we don't know much about their religious leanings.

It's entirely possible that religion could survive the destruction of humans.

contrary to common belief, cockroaches cannot survive the nuclear blast, but can survive the radioactive fallout due to having significantly less cells. In any case, the detonation of sufficient nuclear weapons should destroy enough of the biosphere that all life will be extinguished eventually. (ash will be hurled to the upper atmosphere, thus blocking sun light, which kills all the plants and therefore the rest of the animals, who would not have anything to eat.)

Thermophiles would probably survive (those deep sea creature that have built ecosystems around thermal vents at the bottom of the oceans).

No, I don't think so. The heat from multiple nuclear detonations across the globe (and I did mean all surfaces, seas and oceans included) will flash-vaporize and evaporate a significant (think 40-60%) of the world's ocean. If the creatures do survive the heat and shock wave (a lot worse in water than on land), the creatures would still probably die due to the fact that a) there is little-to no oxygen left, (or, at the very least, no way to create more, since all plants are dead). or b) they will be killed by the sudden drop of sea pressure.

Yah you could be right . . .I immagine there would be just a ton of tectonic activity as well which would probably destroy any habitat that survived all of that.