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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:23 pm
by Gim
Risottia wrote:
Kanadorika wrote: Anybody else believe that bacon is a bit overrated?

Rather largely overrated, especially in a world that offers also Bauchspeck, pancetta arrotolata, coppa di Parma and guanciale...


And Risotto. I thought of it as soon as I saw your nation name. :p

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:26 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Gim wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure

I suppose that some chefs feel that the effect of the oil from the bacon is not the same (nor sufficient) to enhance the dish as the oil from the olive oil

Also, its kind of hard to cook the sauce if you're doing it on a frying pan with just the oil from bacon. You would need to pour some kind of an oil and I would imagine olive oil is the standard pick.


Honestly, bacon fat wouldn't be good on cold pastas, since the grease will solidify, creating an unwanted white blob in the middle of the dish.


Cold pastas...

People eat that? Makes my blood chill...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:27 pm
by Gim
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Gim wrote:
Honestly, bacon fat wouldn't be good on cold pastas, since the grease will solidify, creating an unwanted white blob in the middle of the dish.


Cold pastas...

People eat that? Makes my blood chill...


It exists. With shrimps and other seafood? It's a good menu during the summertime.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:27 pm
by Risottia
Gim wrote:
Risottia wrote:Rather largely overrated, especially in a world that offers also Bauchspeck, pancetta arrotolata, coppa di Parma and guanciale...


And Risotto. I thought of it as soon as I saw your nation name. :p

It's entirely unintentional. ;)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:28 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Gim wrote:
Honestly, bacon fat wouldn't be good on cold pastas, since the grease will solidify, creating an unwanted white blob in the middle of the dish.


Cold pastas...

People eat that? Makes my blood chill...


Yes, it is a thing. Quite good during summer.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:29 pm
by Gim
Risottia wrote:
Gim wrote:
And Risotto. I thought of it as soon as I saw your nation name. :p

It's entirely unintentional. ;)


I thought it was. :p
Risottos are good, anyways, with the sauce and fresh rice.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:29 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Gim wrote:
Risottia wrote:It's entirely unintentional. ;)


I thought it was. :p
Risottos are good, anyways, with the sauce and fresh rice.


I like Parmesan risotto.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:32 pm
by Gim
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gim wrote:
I thought it was. :p
Risottos are good, anyways, with the sauce and fresh rice.


I like Parmesan risotto.


What rice do you like in risottos? My favourite is Carnaroli.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:32 pm
by United Fascist States of North America
NO!!!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:33 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Gim wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I like Parmesan risotto.


What rice do you like in risottos? My favourite is Carnaroli.


Any short grain rice.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:34 pm
by Gim
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gim wrote:
What rice do you like in risottos? My favourite is Carnaroli.


Any short grain rice.


What my aunt does for me is that she pours a small amount of rice oil into the rice before it is cooked, and, once it is cooked fully, the rice becomes soft and fluffy.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:35 pm
by Risottia
Gim wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I like Parmesan risotto.


What rice do you like in risottos? My favourite is Carnaroli.

Carnaroli all the way.
In a pinch, Arborio will do, too.
Unless you want to do a paniscia (a kind of risotto from Piedmont), which, iirc, requires a Sant'Andrea.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:35 pm
by Cannot think of a name
If I had one wish I'd burn it on ending the internet's obsession with making sure other people like things just right.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:35 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Gim wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Cold pastas...

People eat that? Makes my blood chill...


It exists. With shrimps and other seafood? It's a good menu during the summertime.


You mean the cold Spanish/Portuguese seafood rice dishes?

Yeah I know of those. But imagining cold spaghetti makes me kind of queasy...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:36 pm
by Cetacea
Risottia wrote:
Kanadorika wrote: Anybody else believe that bacon is a bit overrated?

Rather largely overrated, especially in a world that offers also Bauchspeck, pancetta arrotolata, coppa di Parma and guanciale...


Bauchspeck is german bacon (an old name for it is indeed bachen), pancetta is italian bacon - I say we cover the world in Bacon!!!!

and isn't guancile a salami?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:37 pm
by Gim
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Gim wrote:
It exists. With shrimps and other seafood? It's a good menu during the summertime.


You mean the cold Spanish/Portuguese seafood rice dishes?

Yeah I know of those. But imagining cold spaghetti makes me kind of queasy...


Oh, no. I don't like spaghetti, even if it is heated the correct way. :p

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:37 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Gim wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Any short grain rice.


What my aunt does for me is that she pours a small amount of rice oil into the rice before it is cooked, and, once it is cooked fully, the rice becomes soft and fluffy.


I usually buy the mixes, in bags. Yes, bad Nana, yes. But my culinary options are rather limited in the US, because of where I live.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:38 pm
by Risottia
Cetacea wrote:
Risottia wrote:Rather largely overrated, especially in a world that offers also Bauchspeck, pancetta arrotolata, coppa di Parma and guanciale...


Bauchspeck is german bacon (an old name for it is indeed bachen), pancetta is italian bacon - I say we cover the world in Bacon!!!!

and isn't guancile a salami?

Nope, it's a dry-cured pork jowl.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:39 pm
by Risottia
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Gim wrote:
It exists. With shrimps and other seafood? It's a good menu during the summertime.


You mean the cold Spanish/Portuguese seafood rice dishes?

Yeah I know of those. But imagining cold spaghetti makes me kind of queasy...

You have to use short pasta for cold dishes, like penne.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penne

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:40 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Gim wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
You mean the cold Spanish/Portuguese seafood rice dishes?

Yeah I know of those. But imagining cold spaghetti makes me kind of queasy...


Oh, no. I don't like spaghetti, even if it is heated the correct way. :p


I see...

Interesting, you dislike spaghetti? Really? Okay.

Its one of my favourites when cooked right. But the spectrum of a spaghetti dish for me can range from completely unacceptable to completely delicious.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:40 pm
by Cetacea
Risottia wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
Bauchspeck is german bacon (an old name for it is indeed bachen), pancetta is italian bacon - I say we cover the world in Bacon!!!!

and isn't guancile a salami?

Nope, it's a dry-cured pork jowl.


oh sounds delicious. - does it make good sandwiches?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:41 pm
by Gim
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Gim wrote:
Oh, no. I don't like spaghetti, even if it is heated the correct way. :p


I see...

Interesting, you dislike spaghetti? Really? Okay.

Its one of my favourites when cooked right. But the spectrum of a spaghetti dish for me can range from completely unacceptable to completely delicious.


Well, I dislike it less when it has Alfredo sauce on it. I really don't like the red Italian tomato sauce. Tomatoes and I really do not get along.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:43 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Gim wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I see...

Interesting, you dislike spaghetti? Really? Okay.

Its one of my favourites when cooked right. But the spectrum of a spaghetti dish for me can range from completely unacceptable to completely delicious.


Well, I dislike it less when it has Alfredo sauce on it. I really don't like the red Italian tomato sauce. Tomatoes and I really do not get along.


Make a garlic based sauce. It's very light on the stomach and easy to make. Just use olive oil, sauteed onions and garlic and salt and pepper to taste. It's amazingly good. Even add some bacon bits (actual bacon, not those red chips). It is awesome.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:44 pm
by Reploid Productions
One thing I love about living in California: access to the awesomest smoked bacon ever. Not too fatty, nice and meaty, doesn't shrivel into nothing when cooked, and dear goddess, the flavor-! Sometimes get the ends & pieces to use in slow cooker soups and stews and the like, or to cook with veggies... sooooo goooood.

Damnit, I may have to go order some now.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:44 pm
by Gim
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, I dislike it less when it has Alfredo sauce on it. I really don't like the red Italian tomato sauce. Tomatoes and I really do not get along.


Make a garlic based sauce. It's very light on the stomach and easy to make. Just use olive oil, sauteed onions and garlic and salt and pepper to taste. It's amazingly good. Even add some bacon bits (actual bacon, not those red chips). It is awesome.


It was so good, until the bacon part. :p
Thanks. I'll try that recipe part without the bacon bits. I'll just use croutons as a replacement, if you don't mind. :p