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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:33 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
How so?


Some consider that the existence of God is a fact while others think the God doesn't exist at all. In particular example the teacher demonstrated was in fact that the existence of God is an opinion something that religious people consider it to be a false statement.

Some consider America being the freest nation on Earth a fact.

Where are the people whining over THAT being a question?
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Postby Brandenbourg-Anhalt » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:40 pm

Gim wrote:
Brandenbourg-Anhalt wrote:Yummy yum. I know a place that has several big photocopying machines that let out a lot of heat. Who wants some? *sneaks over there with a 50 litre bag full of pasta* :p


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:40 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Some consider that the existence of God is a fact while others think the God doesn't exist at all. In particular example the teacher demonstrated was in fact that the existence of God is an opinion something that religious people consider it to be a false statement.

Some consider America being the freest nation on Earth a fact.

Where's the people whining over THAT being a question?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:44 pm

Brandenbourg-Anhalt wrote:
Gim wrote:
Pasta cooked from heat emitted by photocopying machines. :p

Yummy yum.


Yes?

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Postby Gim » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:50 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Brandenbourg-Anhalt wrote:Yummy yum.


Yes?


Time for some pasta suppertime! :p
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Postby Atlanticatia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:58 pm

Technically, belief in God is an opinion, because it's not proven..
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:00 am

Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. Fucking thought police are everywhere.
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Postby United Dependencies » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:02 am

This thread is embarrassing. The op has: 1)clearly copied the opening post from the RT article being linked to and 2) has not yet once showed up to defend his/her opinion on the matter.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:09 am

Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. Fucking thought police are everywhere.


We might have an easier time keeping student to teacher ratios down to a reasonable level and providing economic stability to the American middle class if we didn't fire people every time RT runs an exaggerated and misleading article about them.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:21 am

Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. Fucking thought police are everywhere.

Why?
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Postby Thomaion » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:25 am

Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. Fucking thought police are everywhere.

No, because that's not secularism.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:29 am

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Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. Fucking thought police are everywhere.

No, because that's not secularism.
"Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it" isn't secularism? Could've fooled me.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:35 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Thomaion wrote:No, because that's not secularism.
"Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it" isn't secularism? Could've fooled me.

I've learned in the France thread that secularism means antireligion with clever wordsmithing.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:45 am

Galloism wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:"Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it" isn't secularism? Could've fooled me.

I've learned in the France thread that secularism means antireligion with clever wordsmithing.

France's version of secularism really isn't.
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Postby Thomaion » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:56 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Galloism wrote:I've learned in the France thread that secularism means antireligion with clever wordsmithing.

France's version of secularism really isn't.

Oh, whoops I thought he was talking about the teacher, sure, secularism is the steps to a modern, civilized society, but individuals should be able to have their own religion, provided that they don't force it upon non-adults.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:03 am

Thomaion wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:France's version of secularism really isn't.

Oh, whoops I thought he was talking about the teacher, sure, secularism is the steps to a modern, civilized society, but individuals should be able to have their own religion, provided that they don't force it upon non-adults.

Teaching critical thinking doesn't fit with secularism? What?
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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:06 am

Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. ****ing thought police are everywhere.

I agree, except that evangelisation should not be outlawed as that would be choking out freedom of religion. Forcing people to practice it is ordering someone to go to the mosque or church forcibly, not because the person is willing, but simply because the former person simply wants to.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:10 am

New Waterford wrote:That teacher should not have forced her atheism on the class.


She didn't. She's not an atheist.

New Waterford wrote:Nor should any other public/state school teacher preach their religious beliefs to students in an educational setting.


That is true, but a totally different topic.

New Waterford wrote:Atheism is not a religion as the OP says, but it is not necessarily merely a lack of belief in any gods either. The name's meaning can change depending on how it's used, just like with - shock horror - pretty much any other word.


No, atheism IS a lack of belief in gods. Atheists MAY have other beliefs on top of that, but it's the 'not believing in god' that makes them atheists.

New Waterford wrote:Given the teacher's assertion that God is 'a myth',


New Waterford wrote:...the OP's intended meaning behind the word 'atheism' seems to be the rejection of the existence of God, i.e. the belief that God does not exist. Not a religion per se, but a belief nonetheless.

The OP displays poor understanding of the scientific method.


The original post is basically a complete fabrication.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:12 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Haktiva wrote:Can we just fire the guy and move on with our lives? Religion should stay a personal matter, don't force others to practice or prohibit people from practicing it, what a concept. ****ing thought police are everywhere.

I agree, except that evangelisation should not be outlawed as that would be choking out freedom of religion. Forcing people to practice it is ordering someone to go to the mosque or church forcibly, not because the person is willing, but simply because the former person simply wants to.


Maybe we should create evangelism zones, and only allow evangelism in those places.

Then your right to evangelise is assured, and my right to not be evangelised at is also respected.

(Note: I actually don't mind evangelism).
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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:22 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:I agree, except that evangelisation should not be outlawed as that would be choking out freedom of religion. Forcing people to practice it is ordering someone to go to the mosque or church forcibly, not because the person is willing, but simply because the former person simply wants to.


Maybe we should create evangelism zones, and only allow evangelism in those places.

Then your right to evangelise is assured, and my right to not be evangelised at is also respected.

(Note: I actually don't mind evangelism).

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:07 am

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In the same way that banning schools from teaching kids about evolution doesn't?


Evolution is not coercing religion nor the opposite of religion. Religion and the idea of evolution can coexist.


I am talking about the school districts that ban teaching students about evolution precisely because it contradicts The Bible. How is that not a violation of the separation of religion and education?
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Postby Equestria and Griffon » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:30 am

You all canned me once for doing the exact same thing the OP did in this.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:03 am

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"Copypasta." Sounds delicious.


Pasta cooked from heat emitted by photocopying machines. :p

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Postby Korhal IVV » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:06 am

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After reading the OP, I myself found it was copypasta. Turns out the originator of the OP posted the comment three times. Maybe, though, the OP is the original source of the content of the OP.


"Copypasta." Sounds delicious.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:26 am

She was given a definition of Myth that religion meets and failed to answer it. I really do not see the controversy.
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