I feel like this is a good time to bring up ignosticism.
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by Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:57 pm

by Brandenbourg-Anhalt » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:02 pm


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by Gim » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:12 pm
Brandenbourg-Anhalt wrote:Gim wrote:
Well,...I did not expect you to say that...
but, I'm just stating God is the truth, based on my opinion. I discuss, but I don't try to coerce people into believing that is the case.
Good. As you said yourself, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I respect yours and hopefully people will respect mine

by Brandenbourg-Anhalt » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:14 pm

by Brandenbourg-Anhalt » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:16 pm
Gim wrote:Brandenbourg-Anhalt wrote:Good. As you said yourself, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I respect yours and hopefully people will respect mine
I never disrespected yours. If I tried to contradict your statement through discussion, that was to prove my point, not to prove that your opinion is worthy of disrespect.

by U n i t y » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:16 pm

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by AlezSalmond » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:51 pm

by Gim » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:53 pm
AlezSalmond wrote:So if the parents force their religion on their child, which is a violation of their religious freedom, it's perfectly okay? Glad to see their are so many pro-child abuse dipshits out there.

by Jute » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 pm
AlezSalmond wrote:So if the parents force their religion on their child, which is a violation of their religious freedom, it's perfectly okay? Glad to see their are so many pro-child abuse dipshits out there.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

by Cybraxia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 pm
AlezSalmond wrote:So if the parents force their religion on their child, which is a violation of their religious freedom, it's perfectly okay? Glad to see their are so many pro-child abuse dipshits out there.
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by AlezSalmond » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:58 pm
Jute wrote:Not sure if it's been posted before, but apparently this is the paper in question.AlezSalmond wrote:So if the parents force their religion on their child, which is a violation of their religious freedom, it's perfectly okay? Glad to see their are so many pro-child abuse dipshits out there.
What exactly is forcing a religion on their child?`Punishing them for not believing, or just exposing them to it, like taking it to church and talking about God? If it's the latter, than non-religious people still "force" their non-religious views on the child.

by The Wolven League » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:58 pm
U n i t y wrote:I am an agnostic. But I feel that the teacher has no right to impress their own religious views on that student. Have you ever heard of the Freedom of the Religion?
But may I ask why you are reading RT? RT is a welfare program for crackpot journalists, failures called reporters, and anchor oddities.


by AlezSalmond » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:59 pm
Cybraxia wrote:AlezSalmond wrote:So if the parents force their religion on their child, which is a violation of their religious freedom, it's perfectly okay? Glad to see their are so many pro-child abuse dipshits out there.
???
Children are minors. The Constitution has limited effect on them until they are adults, or can be considered old enough to fend for themselves (If I remember it correctly). As such, parents can take them to church whether they like it or not.
Who are you to say whether or not they should do that? Besides, that isn't even what's being discussed here.

by Cybraxia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:02 pm
AlezSalmond wrote:Jute wrote:Not sure if it's been posted before, but apparently this is the paper in question.
What exactly is forcing a religion on their child?`Punishing them for not believing, or just exposing them to it, like taking it to church and talking about God? If it's the latter, than non-religious people still "force" their non-religious views on the child.
Children are forced to go to church, against their will, from a young age. Generally, when they grow up they begin to explore and a large chunk of religious parents punish this. Which is abuse and a violation of the 1st Amendment. The majority of abusive households are religious anyways so your argument kind of bites itself
The majority of abusive households are religious anyways so your argument kind of bites itself
Children are forced to go to church, against their will, from a young age.
| Represented in the WA by: Ambassador General Flash Quint General Peter Van Doorn Lieutenant Major Glenn Friendly | "When an entire world changes, there are no innocent bystanders. Only those who turn the wheels and those who let them be turned." — Doug Fetterman Chronically Ignored | Nation takes inspiration and is based on many things: Mega Man Ghost in the Shell X-COM Eclipse Phase And others! |

by Jute » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:03 pm
AlezSalmond wrote:Jute wrote:Not sure if it's been posted before, but apparently this is the paper in question.
What exactly is forcing a religion on their child?`Punishing them for not believing, or just exposing them to it, like taking it to church and talking about God? If it's the latter, than non-religious people still "force" their non-religious views on the child.
Children are forced to go to church, against their will, from a young age. Generally, when they grow up they begin to explore and a large chunk of religious parents punish this. Which is abuse and a violation of the 1st Amendment. The majority of abusive households are religious anyways so your argument kind of bites itself
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

by The Wolven League » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:04 pm
Jute wrote:AlezSalmond wrote:
Children are forced to go to church, against their will, from a young age. Generally, when they grow up they begin to explore and a large chunk of religious parents punish this. Which is abuse and a violation of the 1st Amendment. The majority of abusive households are religious anyways so your argument kind of bites itself
Making someone go to church is neither abuse nor a violation of the 1st amendment (which deals only with the separation of church and state, and says nothing about families).
If you argue like that, any kind of upbringing is a "forcing" of your views on your child, isn't it.
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