12yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Fake!

[Wallenburg]

Basically breaking the First Amendment, but that's religion for you.

Got to go, Low level emergency happened.

> You make wild and false assertions.
> We call them bullshit.
> You expect us to do your homework for you.
> We do, disproving your falsehoods.
> You claim laziness.
> We call it willful ignorance.
> You suddenly have an "emergency".

How convenient. I find it hard to believe anything you say, apart from the part about laziness.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Firing a teacher for teaching students critical thinking skills?

You don't coerce critical thinking on a child; you inspire them.

Are you kidding me.

How the fuck do you coerce someone into thinking critically... and even so, why would that be a bad thing?

[Australian rePublic]

I'm appalled from the reaction of everybody in this thread. How would you react if this had happenwd to a religion that was not Christianity? But ten again, who I was I to expect fairness to Christians from the left wing?

[Gim]

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

Yes, we do. The scientific definition of "theory" is very different than the mainstream version. A scientific theory has evidence behind it. You can literally type in "evolution" on Google and find hundreds, if not thousands of research papers and other articles providing evidence for evolution.

There are still ways to falsify evolution, though.

[Genivaria]

I don't think the OP understands the shear amount of evidence for evolution. I myself am a Christian, but to deny that evolution exists, I would be denying reality, and would essentially make myself willfully ignorant.

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

Your willful ignorance does not count as an argument.
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, you are simply too lazy to do a fucking google search.

[Italios]

I don't think the OP understands the shear amount of evidence for evolution. I myself am a Christian, but to deny that evolution exists, I would be denying reality, and would essentially make myself willfully ignorant.

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

More evidence for evolution or creation by God?

Yeah, I thought so: evolution. You can't throw out thousands of hours of research by top scientists all because some guy that may or may not exist up in Heaven said a couple of words and boom, we had a man, and a rib or two later, a woman.

[Dyakovo]

I don't think the OP understands the shear amount of evidence for evolution. I myself am a Christian, but to deny that evolution exists, I would be denying reality, and would essentially make myself willfully ignorant.

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

Wrong.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I'm appalled from the reaction of everybody in this thread. How would you react if this had happenwd to a religion that was not Christianity? But ten again, who I was I to expect fairness to Christians from the left wing?

I'd be just as happy with a Muslim teacher teaching a Muslim student critical thinking skills. Or a Hindu teacher giving a Hindu child critical thinking exercises.

I don't see what the most obvious and fair reaction has to do with the nature of the religion at all. It's totally irrelevant.

[Gim]

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

Wrong.

There are ways to falsify evolution.

[Italios]

Yes, we do. The scientific definition of "theory" is very different than the mainstream version. A scientific theory has evidence behind it. You can literally type in "evolution" on Google and find hundreds, if not thousands of research papers and other articles providing evidence for evolution.

There are still ways to falsify evolution, though.

Same with religion.

[Vassenor]

Wrong.

There are ways to falsify evolution.

Such as?

[Mavorpen]

I don't think the OP understands the shear amount of evidence for evolution. I myself am a Christian, but to deny that evolution exists, I would be denying reality, and would essentially make myself willfully ignorant.

We don't even know evolution exists.

Yes, we do.

It's a theory but not law.

Evolution is neither. It's a phenomenon.

Not completely real.

Next?

[Genivaria]

Yes, we do. The scientific definition of "theory" is very different than the mainstream version. A scientific theory has evidence behind it. You can literally type in "evolution" on Google and find hundreds, if not thousands of research papers and other articles providing evidence for evolution.

There are still ways to falsify evolution, though.

'Falsify evolution' what the actual fuck are you talking about?
Do you always ramble on about things you know nothing about?

[Gim]

There are still ways to falsify evolution, though.

Same with religion.

Doesn't make the theory of evolution true in all senses.

[Dyakovo]

While I agree with many others that the majority of your (OP) post is irrelevant to the article, I also agree that the teacher should be fired.

Firing a teacher for teaching students critical thinking skills?

Critical thinking is bad.
*nods*

[The New Sea Territory]

Firing a teacher for teaching students critical thinking skills?

You don't coerce critical thinking on a child; you inspire them.

...which is why Christianity needs to be rejected. It beliefs notably lack critical thinking.

[Wallenburg]

I'm appalled from the reaction of everybody in this thread. How would you react if this had happenwd to a religion that was not Christianity? But ten again, who I was I to expect fairness to Christians from the left wing?

You're upset that we called bullshit on the RT "source"? Nobody is concerned about this because nothing significant happened.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Wrong.

There are ways to falsify evolution.

Evolution is not a matter of opinion.

It is an observation made with so much independent data sources that it is pretty much impossible to deny it happens.

What the theory of evolution through natural selection explains is how evolution happens, not whether evolution exists or not.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I don't think the OP understands the shear amount of evidence for evolution. I myself am a Christian, but to deny that evolution exists, I would be denying reality, and would essentially make myself willfully ignorant.

We don't even know evolution exists. It's a theory but not law. Not completely real.

It's a scientific theory. Meaning, it is a "well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." [X] In other words, what would be colloquially referred to as pretty much a fucking fact.

[Republic of Wreptzle]

After reading that article, I didn't find anything stating that the original article was a lie.

Seriously?

"District officials [said] that the 12-year-old girl's story is not the same one that other students told officials. They also say that the other students claim this reading teacher did not say there was not a God during an assignment in class. The district said they interviewed eight of the 22 students who were in that same classroom.

A reading teacher passed out a critical thinking worksheet in class. Students were instructed to pick if something was fact, opinion or common assertion. One of the statements on the worksheet read, "There is a God."

Jordan Wooley, 12, and her mother Chantel spoke in front of the Katy ISD school board to complain that the teacher told students that God is a myth and questioned his existence.

Katy ISD Superintendent Alton Frailey said, "In the investigation those assertions were not corroborated by the other students. Was the activity graded? It was not graded. Was it 40 percent of their grade? Were the students told they had to deny God? No one corroborated that, at all."

Do you need us to bold the parts where this shows the original article a lie for you?

I'm not sure why you think the RT article was a lie. I can agree that the girl's statement was heavily biased and one sided (as can be expected). I think we can also both agree that the news blew the story way out of proportion (as can be expected). But to say that the entire story was made up? Now that's different. No amount of news exaggeration or 12-year-old sass changes the fact that the assignment in question was objectionable and that the teacher was wrong to have given it to the class, credit or no credit.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We don't even know evolution exists.

Yes, we do.

It's a theory but not law.

Evolution is neither. It's a phenomenon.

Not completely real.

Next?

Wait, I need to ask. We know evolution happens, but does anyone within the scientific community has qualms about how the theory of evolution explains how evolution actually happens?

This is just personal curiosity, of course, that just came to my head. Not to hurt your argument or anything.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Firing a teacher for teaching students critical thinking skills?

Critical thinking is bad.
*nods*

- most holy books, religious leaders, etc.

[Italios]

Same with religion.

Doesn't make the theory of evolution true in all senses.

So if there's not concrete proof for either of them, that doesn't make one or the other correct. Religion definitely has more flaws in its reasoning, though. Evolution is more factual and reliable.

[The Orson Empire]

There are still ways to falsify evolution, though.

'Falsify evolution' what the actual fuck are you talking about?
Do you always ramble on about things you know nothing about?

I don't really know what he means by that.

You can't "falsify" reality.

[Nord Amour]

While I agree with many others that the majority of your (OP) post is irrelevant to the article, I also agree that the teacher should be fired.

Firing a teacher for teaching students critical thinking skills?

If denying the whole nature and glory of the scientific method, the fundamental basis and standard of reason in most civilized, free societies, which puts careful experimentation and review before the egoistic conception of "common sense" is counted as critical thinking, then absolutely. God cannot be tested, and is therefore pseudoscience, which unlike something like the theory of evolution does not fall under the jurisdiction of education. Staunch atheism is just as delusional a mindset as that of the creationist.

Besides, people can believe whatever the hell they want. It is fortunate that the neo-liberal myth of "natural progression" in regards to spirituality has not yet permeated the United States, and I'm convinced that it never will.