12yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Fake!

[Gim]

Good and evil exist in life. Don't tell me you don't know that. Come on, man.

Good and evil exist, obviously, but I fail to see what spiritual warfare has to do with that. That's conspiracy bullshit evangelicals made up to defend their entitled feelings about being oppressed.

Well, your opinion.

[Tyrannosaurs in F14s]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

[Gim]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

He should have been fired, had the event been real.

[The Wolven League]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

A shame the teacher didn't do it to any student.

[Ifreann]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

Against the Declaration of Independence?

Really?

[Wallenburg]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

1) This event didn't happen.
2) The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It has no power.

[USS Monitor]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

The student was not forced to deny her religion and the Declaration of Independence is not law.

[Galloism]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

Against the Declaration of Independence?

Really?

There's an oddly common misconception that the DoL is binding.

[Gim]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

A shame the teacher didn't do it to any student.

Otherwise, he would've been beaten both psychologically and physically by Christian parents.

[Othelos]

Good and evil exist, obviously, but I fail to see what spiritual warfare has to do with that. That's conspiracy bullshit evangelicals made up to defend their entitled feelings about being oppressed.

Well, your opinion. :)

It's not my opinion, I was in that. Evangelicals WANT to feel oppressed, so they can justify their views and negative feelings toward society and see themselves as chosen.

I don't need to imagine an invisible layer of magical demons and prayers taking place around me to feel good about myself or to believe in god.

[Dyakovo]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

The Declaration of Independence carries no legal weight in the US, and the event didn't happen.

[The Wolven League]

A shame the teacher didn't do it to any student.

Otherwise, he would've been beaten both psychologically and physically by Christian parents.

Not unlikely. Considering it's Texas.

[Moderate Utopia]

I think we are doing a disservice to both 12 year olds and the resilience of religious faith.

By that age, one should be able to differentiate the concept of Faith (an excellent and valuable thing) and Facts (another useful concept).

A 12 year old should also be able to state and make an argument with which she disagrees.

Asking a student to differentiate between Faith and Facts, or even to write an essay or other assignment that supports a proposition with which that person happens to disagree are both age-appropriate assignments for a 12 year old.

Everyone should be able to work with assignments that contain ideas with which we disagree. Teaching a 12 year old Methodist the distinction between fact and myth will not degrade her faith or devotion to her God. Nor will learning to work with a teacher who apparently posses both strong atheist views and a confrontational teaching style. On the contrary, young people of faith can only benefit from these experiences.

If one's faith is so fragile that it is harmed by an assignment like this, perhaps one should consider agnosticism. Its a lot less work.

[Gim]

Otherwise, he would've been beaten both psychologically and physically by Christian parents.

Not unlikely. Considering it's Texas.

What's so different about Texas?

[The Wolven League]

Not unlikely. Considering it's Texas.

What's so different about Texas?

It's filled with uber-patriotic Christian fundies. Like a lot of the South.

[Galloism]

Not unlikely. Considering it's Texas.

What's so different about Texas?

I wanted to say "Texas is like" but all my comparisons come down to "it's the texas of America" which is no help whatsoever.

[Othelos]

Good and evil exist, obviously, but I fail to see what spiritual warfare has to do with that. That's conspiracy bullshit evangelicals made up to defend their entitled feelings about being oppressed.

Well, your opinion. :)

Plus, I don't think you understand how stupid that sounds. 3% of the population oppressing 70% with demons that they don't believe in? I don't get it.

[Gim]

Well, your opinion.

Plus, I don't think you understand how stupid that sounds. 3% of the population oppressing 70% with demons that they don't believe in? I don't get it.

I'm talking in general terms.

[Othelos]

Plus, I don't think you understand how stupid that sounds. 3% of the population oppressing 70% with demons that they don't believe in? I don't get it.

I'm talking in general terms.

what do you mean, then

[USS Monitor]

Not unlikely. Considering it's Texas.

What's so different about Texas?

It's full of Bible-thumpers and they are more known for swaggering around with guns than calmly talking things out.

[The Wolven League]

What's so different about Texas?

It's full of Bible-thumpers and they are more known for swaggering around with guns than calmly talking things out.

I'm not sure but I think Gim might be Texan.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

That teacher should be freakin' fired. You can't do that to any student. You can't force someone to deny their religion, it's against the DoI and the Constitution. (dec. of Independence)

It didn't actually happen in the way described in the OP.

[Gim]

I'm talking in general terms.

what do you mean, then

The source of evil is not just from 3% of the population. Neither is the source of Good 70% of the population.

[Galloism]

What's so different about Texas?

It's full of Bible-thumpers and they are more known for swaggering around with guns than calmly talking things out.

Ironically, over the next decade or so, Texas might turn blue.

[Wallenburg]

Plus, I don't think you understand how stupid that sounds. 3% of the population oppressing 70% with demons that they don't believe in? I don't get it.

I'm talking in general terms.

Saying that you are generalizing only weakens your argument.