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Postby Bentrada » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:54 am

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Bentrada wrote:Did you bother to read the article? It states that the students took a poll to say whether God was fact, opinion, or myth. The teacher said that anyone who said that a fact or an opinion was wrong and God is only a myth.

Yes. That is true. God is objectively a myth, regardless of your religion or lack thereof.

That doesn't mean the teacher was justified in her actions.

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Postby Teemant » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:54 am

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It seems like you have no idea what myth is.

[quote="Oxford Dictionary]myth
noun

1A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.[/quote]
I guess we can add "myth" to the list of words you don't actually know the meaning of...[/quote][/quote][/quote]


I know very well what myth is myself. I got wrong impression by one of his posts.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:55 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:No, she wasn't. I don't think you understand what "myth" means.

Did you bother to read the article? It states that the students took a poll to say whether God was fact, opinion, or myth. The teacher said that anyone who said that a fact or an opinion was wrong and God is only a myth.

Which is objectively true. There is no evidence for God.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:56 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yes. That is true. God is objectively a myth, regardless of your religion or lack thereof.

That doesn't mean the teacher was justified in her actions.

Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:57 am

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Bentrada wrote:Did you bother to read the article? It states that the students took a poll to say whether God was fact, opinion, or myth. The teacher said that anyone who said that a fact or an opinion was wrong and God is only a myth.

Which is objectively true. There is no evidence for God.

Well, I guess opinion would be correct as well.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:58 am

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Bentrada wrote:That doesn't mean the teacher was justified in her actions.

Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:59 am

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I guess we can add "myth" to the list of words you don't actually know the meaning of...


I know very well what myth is myself. I got wrong impression by one of his posts.

You clearly don't.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:59 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

She wasn't coercing them into doing anything. She was explaining that objectively, God is not a fact, but an opinion or myth.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:59 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

Myths are not inherently false.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:00 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

When did she do that, exactly? I'd find that extremely odd, her being a Christian and whatnot... I strongly recommend you read the previous page or two, lest you make a fool of yourself.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

She wasn't coercing them into doing anything. She was explaining that objectively, God is not a fact, but an opinion or myth.

A fact is something that is true. There is no requirement for evidence in the definition of a fact.

Either way, she was coercing them through their grades.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:00 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Bentrada wrote:That doesn't mean the teacher was justified in her actions.

Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

Huh. I guess so. Thank you for correcting my position.

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Postby Teemant » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:00 am

Dyakovo wrote:
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[/quote]

I know very well what myth is myself. I got wrong impression by one of his posts.[/quote]
You clearly don't.[/quote]

I clearly do. I made a mistake and got wrong impression by one of his posts.

In fact I may even know more than you do.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:01 am

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I know very well what myth is myself. I got wrong impression by one of his posts.[/quote]
You clearly don't.[/quote]

I clearly do. I made a mistake and got wrong impression by one of his posts.

In fact I may even know more than you do.[/quote]
Please fix your formatting.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:01 am

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Alvecia wrote:She wasn't coercing them into doing anything. She was explaining that objectively, God is not a fact, but an opinion or myth.

A fact is something that is true. There is no requirement for evidence in the definition of a fact.

Either way, she was coercing them through their grades.

Really? Huh. I wonder how, considering the exercise this refers to actually had no credit assigned to it... you seem to have a lot more information on this than the rest of us. Care to share?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:01 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

That isn't what the teacher did.
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Postby Teemant » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:02 am

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I know very well what myth is myself. I got wrong impression by one of his posts.

You clearly don't.[/quote]

I clearly do. I made a mistake and got wrong impression by one of his posts.

In fact I may even know more than you do.[/quote]
Please fix your formatting.[/quote]

I responded to broken "formatting".
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:02 am

Bentrada wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

Huh. I guess so. Thank you for correcting my position.

No worries. Glad to see this could be cleared up.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:02 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Bentrada wrote:That doesn't mean the teacher was justified in her actions.

Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

No it doesnt, God or the lack thereof does not belong in a public school lesson.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:02 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Alvecia wrote:She wasn't coercing them into doing anything. She was explaining that objectively, God is not a fact, but an opinion or myth.

A fact is something that is true. There is no requirement for evidence in the definition of a fact.

Either way, she was coercing them through their grades.


Katy ISD Superintendent Alton Frailey said, "In the investigation those assertions were not corroborated by the other students. Was the activity graded? It was not graded. Was it 40 percent of their grade? Were the students told they had to deny God? No one corroborated that, at all."

It was not graded.

If something has no evidence, you cannot know it is true, and therefore cannot be fact.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:03 am

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I responded to broken "formatting".

For fuck's sake, it literally took me one second to fix the broken quote wall.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:03 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Actually, yes, it does. That's exactly what it means. That's the point.

No it doesnt, God or the lack thereof does not belong in a public school lesson.

...we can't teach about the existence of religion in school now? That's going to leave some big fucking gaps in world history.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:04 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:The teacher was justified in coercing her students to declare God not real?

That isn't what the teacher did.

I was under the impression that it was for a grade. Either way, it was wrong and should never have been a lesson.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:04 am

Teemant wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You clearly don't.


I clearly do. I made a mistake and got wrong impression by one of his posts.

In fact I may even know more than you do.

Your posts demonstrate otherwise.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:05 am

Jamzmania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:That isn't what the teacher did.

I was under the impression that it was for a grade. Either way, it was wrong and should never have been a lesson.

Unsurprisingly, you were under a false impression.

It was not wrong. It was an objectively true statement. There was nothing inappropriate about this exercise.
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