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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:46 pm

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The new fandom republic wrote:I don't care what Religion the teacher follows,What she did should have her fired.

ITT: Teaching critical thinking should be a firing offense.


Except it was more of coercive thinking, rather than a critical one.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:48 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:ITT: Teaching critical thinking should be a firing offense.


Except it was more of coercive thinking, rather than a critical one.


Where does it say the students were coerced?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:49 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:ITT: Teaching critical thinking should be a firing offense.


Except it was more of coercive thinking, rather than a critical one.

No one was coerced.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:49 pm

And what about Atheists that have religious education pushed down their throats? Hmm? I had to study your bullshit religion while I was at school, didn't have a choice in it. Cry me a river, christians.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:57 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:ITT: Teaching critical thinking should be a firing offense.


Except it was more of coercive thinking, rather than a critical one.

No, it wasn't.
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Postby Cybraxia » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:57 pm

Kraylandia wrote:And what about Atheists that have religious education pushed down their throats? Hmm? I had to study your bullshit religion while I was at school, didn't have a choice in it. Cry me a river, christians.


If you lived in the US, I'm calling bullshit.

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Postby Uxupox » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:58 pm

Kraylandia wrote:And what about Atheists that have religious education pushed down their throats? Hmm? I had to study your bullshit religion while I was at school, didn't have a choice in it. Cry me a river, christians.


Don't go to a religious school then.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:58 pm

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Gim wrote:
Except it was more of coercive thinking, rather than a critical one.

No, it wasn't.


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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:43 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:No, it wasn't.


:eyebrow:

Explain how it was an exercise in coercive thinking rather than an exercise in critical thinking.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:45 pm

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Kraylandia wrote:And what about Atheists that have religious education pushed down their throats? Hmm? I had to study your bullshit religion while I was at school, didn't have a choice in it. Cry me a river, christians.


Don't go to a religious school then.


UK, normal, irreligious school. RME is compulsory.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:48 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Gim wrote:
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Explain how it was an exercise in coercive thinking rather than an exercise in critical thinking.


Teacher coerces the child to write against his or her belief. Child learns from the teacher that coercing another student to think in his or her way is perfectly sound.
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Kraylandia wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Don't go to a religious school then.


UK, normal, irreligious school. RME is compulsory.


What is RME? Even though in my country the current population who are catholics is a whopping 96% in the last census in my public schooling not once have my teachers talked about their religious or irreligious views on the students.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:54 pm

Gim wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Explain how it was an exercise in coercive thinking rather than an exercise in critical thinking.


Teacher coerces the child to write against his or her belief. Child learns from the teacher that coercing another student to think in his or her way is perfectly sound.

The teacher did not do that.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:56 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Gim wrote:
Teacher coerces the child to write against his or her belief. Child learns from the teacher that coercing another student to think in his or her way is perfectly sound.

The teacher did not do that.


Having the child write that "God does not exist", when the child clearly believes he does?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:57 pm

Gim wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The teacher did not do that.


Having the child write that "God does not exist", when the child clearly believes he does?


The teacher did not do that.

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:00 pm

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Gim wrote:
Having the child write that "God does not exist", when the child clearly believes he does?


The teacher did not do that.


This is what I read from the OP source:
"I think that the teacher crossed a serious line when she led impressionable minds to write there was no God...that God wasn't real. I think that infringes on my child's rights,"
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:03 pm

Kauthar wrote:This is continued proof that Christians are being oppressed in America...

An incorrect analysis.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:04 pm

Gim wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The teacher did not do that.


This is what I read from the OP source:
"I think that the teacher crossed a serious line when she led impressionable minds to write there was no God...that God wasn't real. I think that infringes on my child's rights,"


You should maybe read more of the thread then.

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:04 pm

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Othelos wrote:Christians aren't oppressed in the US. Many of them just feel entitled to the point where it's offensive to them that society and facts won't warp to their views.

Yep, this 100%. Saying Christians are oppressed in a dominantly Christian society is laughable.

Well I don't know about you, but when was the last time you saw any Nestorians around here?

So clearly someone is being oppressed *nods*.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:04 pm

Gim wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The teacher did not do that.


Having the child write that "God does not exist", when the child clearly believes he does?

That didn't happen.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:04 pm

Gim wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The teacher did not do that.


This is what I read from the OP source:
"I think that the teacher crossed a serious line when she led impressionable minds to write there was no God...that God wasn't real. I think that infringes on my child's rights,"

And it didn't happen.

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Postby Jamzmania » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:04 pm

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Gim wrote:
This is what I read from the OP source:


You should maybe read more of the thread then.

Has it come out that the teacher did not tell students to write that God was a myth and that the student lied?
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:05 pm

Gim wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The teacher did not do that.


This is what I read from the OP source:
"I think that the teacher crossed a serious line when she led impressionable minds to write there was no God...that God wasn't real. I think that infringes on my child's rights,"

The OP's source got pretty much everything about the story wrong.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:05 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Gim wrote:
Having the child write that "God does not exist", when the child clearly believes he does?

That didn't happen.


Okay. Whatever. :p
I would've been incensed, if it actually did occur. :p
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:06 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You should maybe read more of the thread then.

Has it come out that the teacher did not tell students to write that God was a myth and that the student lied?

Repeatedly.

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