12yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Fake!

[Firsthome]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

It's illegal to require anyone to recite the pledge, and has been since 1943.

When I didn't say the pledge today, as I usually don't, because of the current state of the United States. (I'm not a Nationalist.)

I was in the view of my Special Ed teacher, who demanded me to get up and at least stand. I didn't.

After the pledge was over, she said "what a peculiar thing to be defiant over" I rolled my eyes.

Until America pays attention to all of the children and Adults with mental issues, and provides support, I will not say the pledge.

Defund Autism Speaks.

[Grave_n_idle]

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Your point is valid but by the same logic the damn pope could not believe in God.

Not entirely unreasonable. Mother Teresa was an atheist.

On the other hand, it is a bit of a stretch to argue that this teacher was a stealth-militant-atheist, pretending to be Christian to attack Christianity.

[Firsthome]

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

If you identify as a Christian you almost invariably believe in a deity.

I believe in a deity, it's just not a theist deity.

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If you identify as a Christian you almost invariably believe in a deity.

I believe in a deity, it's just not a theist deity.

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

And of course, 5% of the population is ALL OF THE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES, amirite?

[Alvecia]

If you identify as a Christian you almost invariably believe in a deity.

I believe in a deity, it's just not a theist deity.

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

How do I statistical analysis?

[Firsthome]

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

And of course, 5% of the population is ALL OF THE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES, amirite?

Of course not. 5% of the population however, is a fairly large percentage.

[Wallenburg]

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

How do I statistical analysis?

You need hard data, preferably quantifiable.

[Zerinfriom]

I may be an atheist, but I am not anti theist.
First of all we all are adults and understand atheism isn't a religion K? k

But what this teacher did was wrong, no one has the right to force a religious or nonreligious point upon someone else, especially a child.

This is the equivalent of say a christian teacher forcing a you atheist student to write a paper about how god is real despite it not aligning with their views, and if they didn't do it then they would get an F.

It's the same thing, but this time it is being caused by a teacher, and as far as I know teachers are suppose to remain neutral on the issues of religion. Their purpose is to give children information to learn so that they aren't idiots in the real world, but this is an abuse of power.

The teacher should either be forced to revoke the assignment and apologize truthfully, or they should be finned and fired, and their teaching license revoked for enforcement of a religious or non religious belief upon a student.

Some of my fellow Atheists are expecting me to support the teacher, but one thing is for certain.

Real Atheists do not follow the same hypocrisy as the Christians that give the majority of Christians a bad name

and supporting the teacher just because Atheism is the wrong way to go.

[Wallenburg]

And of course, 5% of the population is ALL OF THE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES, amirite?

Of course not. 5% of the population however, is a fairly large percentage.

Depending on your significance level, 5% is entirely insignificant.

[Alvecia]

And of course, 5% of the population is ALL OF THE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES, amirite?

Of course not. 5% of the population however, is a fairly large percentage.

Irregardless of any of that, she still did not da that god is fake. She made the objectively true statement that of the three categories, fact, opinion, or common assertion, the statement "God is real" falls under the category common assertion and that by claiming it is a fact or opinion is objectively incorrect.

[Ifreann]

I may be an atheist, but I am not anti theist.
First of all we all are adults and understand atheism isn't a religion K? k

But what this teacher did was wrong, no one has the right to force a religious or nonreligious point upon someone else, especially a child.

This is the equivalent of say a christian teacher forcing a you atheist student to write a paper about how god is real despite it not aligning with their views, and if they didn't do it then they would get an F.

It's the same thing, but this time it is being caused by a teacher, and as far as I know teachers are suppose to remain neutral on the issues of religion. Their purpose is to give children information to learn so that they aren't idiots in the real world, but this is an abuse of power.

The teacher should either be forced to revoke the assignment and apologize truthfully, or they should be finned and fired, and their teaching license revoked for enforcement of a religious or non religious belief upon a student.

Some of my fellow Atheists are expecting me to support the teacher, but one thing is for certain.

Real Atheists do not follow the same hypocrisy as the Christians that give the majority of Christians a bad name

and supporting the teacher just because Atheism is the wrong way to go.

You may wish to read more than just the OP, since it is almost entirely false.

[Alvecia]

I may be an atheist, but I am not anti theist.
First of all we all are adults and understand atheism isn't a religion K? k

But what this teacher did was wrong, no one has the right to force a religious or nonreligious point upon someone else, especially a child.

This is the equivalent of say a christian teacher forcing a you atheist student to write a paper about how god is real despite it not aligning with their views, and if they didn't do it then they would get an F.

It's the same thing, but this time it is being caused by a teacher, and as far as I know teachers are suppose to remain neutral on the issues of religion. Their purpose is to give children information to learn so that they aren't idiots in the real world, but this is an abuse of power.

The teacher should either be forced to revoke the assignment and apologize truthfully, or they should be finned and fired, and their teaching license revoked for enforcement of a religious or non religious belief upon a student.

Some of my fellow Atheists are expecting me to support the teacher, but one thing is for certain.

Real Atheists do not follow the same hypocrisy as the Christians that give the majority of Christians a bad name

and supporting the teacher just because Atheism is the wrong way to go.

The teacher is a Christian and she dis not assert that god is fake

[Alvecia]

I may be an atheist, but I am not anti theist.
First of all we all are adults and understand atheism isn't a religion K? k

But what this teacher did was wrong, no one has the right to force a religious or nonreligious point upon someone else, especially a child.

This is the equivalent of say a christian teacher forcing a you atheist student to write a paper about how god is real despite it not aligning with their views, and if they didn't do it then they would get an F.

It's the same thing, but this time it is being caused by a teacher, and as far as I know teachers are suppose to remain neutral on the issues of religion. Their purpose is to give children information to learn so that they aren't idiots in the real world, but this is an abuse of power.

The teacher should either be forced to revoke the assignment and apologize truthfully, or they should be finned and fired, and their teaching license revoked for enforcement of a religious or non religious belief upon a student.

Some of my fellow Atheists are expecting me to support the teacher, but one thing is for certain.

Real Atheists do not follow the same hypocrisy as the Christians that give the majority of Christians a bad name

and supporting the teacher just because Atheism is the wrong way to go.

The teacher is a Christian and she dis not assert that god is fake

Also it was ungraded

[Firsthome]

If you look at a poll of Lutherans in the United States (ELCA or Missouri, not the Wisconsin Sect) You'd find that at least 5% doubt or disbelieve in God.

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

The ELCA is one of the Larger Protestant Denominations in the United states, As is the Missouri Synod

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How do I statistical analysis?

You need hard data, preferably quantifiable.

Well played

[Soldati Senza Confini]

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

The ELCA is one of the Larger Protestant Denominations in the United states, As is the Missouri Synod

It's a "more than 4 million members" denomination based on their website.

Hardly what I would consider "significant".

[Alvecia]

5% of one denomination is not enough to put speculate that the teacher is a activist atheist in disguise.

The ELCA is one of the Larger Protestant Denominations in the United states, As is the Missouri Synod

Irrelevant concerning the other point I made

Of course not. 5% of the population however, is a fairly large percentage.

Irregardless of any of that, she still did not da that god is fake. She made the objectively true statement that of the three categories, fact, opinion, or common assertion, the statement "God is real" falls under the category common assertion and that by claiming it is a fact or opinion is objectively incorrect.

[Zebulor]

The title of this should be changed because she was not told to write that god is fake. This whole thread is like a late summer.

[Dyakovo]

The teacher is a Christian

Yes, that's why she said God doesn't exist

She never said that.

[Dyakovo]

My brain hurts.

But my opinion stands, I think that everyone should be taught that they can believe what they want, because essentially, we will never prove anything about the creation of everything. We didn't exist when the universe began. We can only find evidence and say that it is possible, but not certain. Any theory I try and explain will always have flaws, so is there any point forcing something on children that hasn't been completely proved? No, there isn't. Maybe children are taught about how people believe, just not they should believe something.

I think it was very unfair to tell the students that they would be in 'trouble' if they didn't admit that God was fake, you can't force a belief on someone. But overall, nothing can be proved, therefore I believe in absolutely nothing. I do not need to believe that something created the universe, I just exist. I am not saying that everyone shouldn't believe in anything, you can believe in what you want. Nothing can be proved, just evidence anyway.

I think it's unfair that you can't be bothered to get the facts straight before posting.

[Dyakovo]

And of course, 5% of the population is ALL OF THE POPULATION IN THE UNITED STATES, amirite?

Of course not. 5% of the population however, is a fairly large percentage.

No, it really isn't.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

The title of this should be changed because she was not told to write that god is fake. This whole thread is like a late summer.

Blame global warming.

[Dyakovo]

I may be an atheist, but I am not anti theist.
First of all we all are adults and understand atheism isn't a religion K? k

But what this teacher did was wrong.

Teaching critical thinking is wrong?

[Alvecia]

The title of this should be changed because she was not told to write that god is fake. This whole thread is like a late summer.

Blame global warming.

*climate change