12yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Fake!

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

This thread is embarrassing. The op has: 1)clearly copied the opening post from the RT article being linked to and 2) has not yet once showed up to defend his/her opinion on the matter.

We've been had, folks.

Exactly! If you don't bother to show up and discuss your stated positions, then don't create the thread in the first place. In reality, this was obviously not meant as a discussion thread, it was just The Texan Union needing to blow off steam and have a rant against those who believe differently from himself/herself, disguised as a so-called "discussion" thread.

[Gim]

This thread is embarrassing. The op has: 1)clearly copied the opening post from the RT article being linked to and 2) has not yet once showed up to defend his/her opinion on the matter.

We've been had, folks.

Exactly! If you don't bother to show up and discuss your stated positions, then don't create the thread in the first place. In reality, this was obviously not meant as a discussion thread, it was just The Texan Union needing to blow off steam and have a rant against those who believe differently from himself/herself, disguised as a so-called "discussion" thread.

Maybe, this thread should be closed?

[Bentrada]

Exactly! If you don't bother to show up and discuss your stated positions, then don't create the thread in the first place. In reality, this was obviously not meant as a discussion thread, it was just The Texan Union needing to blow off steam and have a rant against those who believe differently from himself/herself, disguised as a so-called "discussion" thread.

Maybe, this thread should be closed?

I second this proposal.

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

Exactly! If you don't bother to show up and discuss your stated positions, then don't create the thread in the first place. In reality, this was obviously not meant as a discussion thread, it was just The Texan Union needing to blow off steam and have a rant against those who believe differently from himself/herself, disguised as a so-called "discussion" thread.

Maybe, this thread should be closed?

I think it should. And since it has already been established that the story that was the subject of the thread was completely exaggerated and overly dramatized and that there is really no story in it, I don't see why we should keep on dealing with it

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

Maybe, this thread should be closed?

I second this proposal.

I think we would soon have a quorum for a General Assembly Resolution to close this thing

[Gim]

Maybe, this thread should be closed?

I think it should. And since it has already been established that the story that was the subject of the thread was completely exaggerated and overly dramatized and that there is really no story in it, I don't see why we should keep on dealing with it

Nations should know NSG is not the place to rant.

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

I think it should. And since it has already been established that the story that was the subject of the thread was completely exaggerated and overly dramatized and that there is really no story in it, I don't see why we should keep on dealing with it

Nations should know NSG is not the place to rant.

Like I have been kind of doing in here too

[Fashie]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

[Alvecia]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

The very idea of a pledge of allegiance seems squiffy to me.

[Firsthome]

So.

In my Opinion, You shouldn't teach religion to a child.

You can take a child to Church and expose them to it, but expose them to all sides of the religion. Also, Teach them about science at the same time, and tell them about it. You don't have to tell them to pick one or the other, or that God is fake.

I, personally, Believe that the Big bang and all that shmuck happened, and the the earth is over 4 billion years old, and that Evolution is still going on, and that Autism Speaks needs to be shut down and Mental rights expanded. I happen to belong to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I support LGBT, openly.

I was brought to church as a child, but my parents also taught me, reading to me about things before I was admitted into kindergarten. This opened my mind, although closing it from other things (I'm an intense bigot, I hate people who hate people)

So yes, I think this teacher should be fired for pushing her belief that God does not exist on the child, and I think that Fundamentalists should be punished for denial of obvious facts thrust in front of their face.





(no, the hating of certain people who just happen to be homosexual is not homophobia, for me, it is coincidental if I just don't happen to like a person and they happen to be homosexual)

[Alvecia]

So.

In my Opinion, You shouldn't teach religion to a child.

You can take a child to Church and expose them to it, but expose them to all sides of the religion. Also, Teach them about science at the same time, and tell them about it. You don't have to tell them to pick one or the other, or that God is fake.

I, personally, Believe that the Big bang and all that shmuck happened, and the the earth is over 4 billion years old, and that Evolution is still going on, and that Autism Speaks needs to be shut down and Mental rights expanded. I happen to belong to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I support LGBT, openly.

I was brought to church as a child, but my parents also taught me, reading to me about things before I was admitted into kindergarten. This opened my mind, although closing it from other things (I'm an intense bigot, I hate people who hate people)

So yes, I think this teacher should be fired for pushing her belief that God does not exist on the child, and I think that Fundamentalists should be punished for denial of obvious facts thrust in front of their face.





(no, the hating of certain people who just happen to be homosexual is not homophobia, for me, it is coincidental if I just don't happen to like a person and they happen to be homosexual)

The teacher is a Christian

[Firsthome]

So.

In my Opinion, You shouldn't teach religion to a child.

You can take a child to Church and expose them to it, but expose them to all sides of the religion. Also, Teach them about science at the same time, and tell them about it. You don't have to tell them to pick one or the other, or that God is fake.

I, personally, Believe that the Big bang and all that shmuck happened, and the the earth is over 4 billion years old, and that Evolution is still going on, and that Autism Speaks needs to be shut down and Mental rights expanded. I happen to belong to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I support LGBT, openly.

I was brought to church as a child, but my parents also taught me, reading to me about things before I was admitted into kindergarten. This opened my mind, although closing it from other things (I'm an intense bigot, I hate people who hate people)

So yes, I think this teacher should be fired for pushing her belief that God does not exist on the child, and I think that Fundamentalists should be punished for denial of obvious facts thrust in front of their face.





(no, the hating of certain people who just happen to be homosexual is not homophobia, for me, it is coincidental if I just don't happen to like a person and they happen to be homosexual)

The teacher is a Christian

Yes, that's why she said God doesn't exist

[Fartsniffage]

The teacher is a Christian

Yes, that's why she said God doesn't exist

She didn't say that.

[Alvecia]

The teacher is a Christian

Yes, that's why she said God doesn't exist

From the statement released by the school:

The teacher is distraught by this incident, as some commentary has gone as far as to vilify her without knowing her, her Christian faith, or the context of the classroom activity. Still, this does not excuse the fact that this ungraded activity was ill-conceived and because of that, its intent had been misconstrued. As a result, the activity will no longer be used by the school, and the teacher has been advised and appropriate personnel action will be taken. The school regrets any misconceptions that may have resulted from this teacher-developed classroom activity and assures its school community that the religious beliefs of all students and staff are welcomed and valued at West Memorial Junior High.

[Seventh Oblivion]

My brain hurts.

But my opinion stands, I think that everyone should be taught that they can believe what they want, because essentially, we will never prove anything about the creation of everything. We didn't exist when the universe began. We can only find evidence and say that it is possible, but not certain. Any theory I try and explain will always have flaws, so is there any point forcing something on children that hasn't been completely proved? No, there isn't. Maybe children are taught about how people believe, just not they should believe something.

I think it was very unfair to tell the students that they would be in 'trouble' if they didn't admit that God was fake, you can't force a belief on someone. But overall, nothing can be proved, therefore I believe in absolutely nothing. I do not need to believe that something created the universe, I just exist. I am not saying that everyone shouldn't believe in anything, you can believe in what you want. Nothing can be proved, just evidence anyway.

[Ifreann]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

It's illegal to require anyone to recite the pledge, and has been since 1943.

[Alvecia]

My brain hurts.

But my opinion stands, I think that everyone should be taught that they can believe what they want, because essentially, we will never prove anything about the creation of everything. We didn't exist when the universe began. We can only find evidence and say that it is possible, but not certain. Any theory I try and explain will always have flaws, so is there any point forcing something on children that hasn't been completely proved? No, there isn't.

I think it was very unfair to tell the students that they would be in 'trouble' if they didn't admit that God was fake, you can't force a belief on someone. But overall, nothing can be proved, therefore I believe in absolutely nothing. I do not need to believe that something created the universe, I just exist. I am not saying that everyone shouldn't believe in anything, you can believe in what you want. Nothing can be proved, just evidence anyway.

She did not do this.

The activity, which was intended to encourage critical thinking skills and dialogue by engaging students in an exercise wherein they identified statements as fact, opinion, or common assertion was not intended to question or challenge any student's religious beliefs as reported by some media outlets.

The students were told that "God is real" is not a factual statement, but a common assertion. Nowhere does that indicate she said that God is fake.

[Fashie]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

It's illegal to require anyone to recite the pledge, and has been since 1943.

I know, but some people think that people should be forced to. So I am saying that my opinion is that it should stay the same as it is right now.

[Alvecia]

I'm getting this from this Snopes article for anyone interested.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Because all different kinds of kids go to school, and they all have different religious backgrounds, no assignment should be on religious topics. However, this brings up a debate about the Pledge Of Allegiance. It talks about god, and other religions don't permit someone saying such things to a flag. However, because christianity is the predominate religion, it is used. My opinion is that is should still be used, but people who have different religions don't have to participate.

It's illegal to require anyone to recite the pledge, and has been since 1943.

People also are not necessarily required to recite the "Under God" mention under the pledge. In fact, under some circumstances (like the USCIS naturalization process) they allow you to give a modified oath of allegiance based on your beliefs to modify it so where you don't have to say "so help me God" and "I solemnly affirm".

[Firsthome]

Yes, that's why she said God doesn't exist

From the statement released by the school:

The teacher is distraught by this incident, as some commentary has gone as far as to vilify her without knowing her, her Christian faith, or the context of the classroom activity. Still, this does not excuse the fact that this ungraded activity was ill-conceived and because of that, its intent had been misconstrued. As a result, the activity will no longer be used by the school, and the teacher has been advised and appropriate personnel action will be taken. The school regrets any misconceptions that may have resulted from this teacher-developed classroom activity and assures its school community that the religious beliefs of all students and staff are welcomed and valued at West Memorial Junior High.

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

[Alvecia]

From the statement released by the school:

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Your point is valid but by the same logic the damn pope could not believe in God.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

From the statement released by the school:

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

If you identify as a Christian you almost invariably believe in a deity.

I believe in a deity, it's just not a theist deity.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

Wow, talk about grasping at straws. Your point is valid but by the same logic the damn pope could not believe in God.

It is at the fringes.

I sincerely doubt this lady is part of the fringes and I'd put her more into the mainstream.

[Godular]

From the statement released by the school:

I read that. Just because someone Identifies As a certain religion doesn't mean they don't believe in God.

What in blazes are you barking about?