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12yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Fake!

Postby The Texan Union » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:19 pm

Oh dear...

:o

Dear Atheists, Christians, and Agnostics about to argue below:

It doesn't matter whether or not God is real. This is not about God. This is about a teacher forcing their religious views upon impressionable children. They should be fired, and never allowed to teach again.

Before the ignorant people come to me saying "Oh, but Atheism isn't a religion!". Yes it is. It requires just as much faith as Christianity. You can't prove God doesn't exist, but you have faith that he does not. So just accept that as fact, because it doesn't make any real difference.

Now, on the subject of God's existence, I shall begin with the wonderful myth of Macro-evolution. No, it's just wrong. Not a fact. You can't possibly claim something as fact when your measurements give a year predating humanity (to our knowledge anyway), because we have no proof that such a year existed. To then claim that the measurement proves such a year exists, is massively ignorant. The measuring method could be entirely wrong, which wouldn't be surprising. Science is knowledge, and knowledge requires facts. Therefore, by definition alone, Macro-evolution is NOT science.

Now, God. God is literally the same basic idea. God is just as scientifically feasible as the Big Bang. Miracles. What are miracles? A miracle is a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency. These happen. I'm not here claiming God is a magical creature, but rather a natural being. One who has achieved a state of understanding to the point where he is able to manipulate matter in a quick and easy way.

Yes, it may sound somewhat ridiculous, but just open your mind to some new ideas. Pride is dominating and completely ruining the Scientific Community today. People are so afraid to admit they're wrong that they manipulate the facts to fit their theories, and this is leading to a group of sheeople that blindly follow their "intelligent" idols. The only difference between Atheism and Christianity is their deity and morals. Christianity follows a single great being incapable of wrong who creates rules for them to follow. Atheism on the other hand, is a religion that worships men that society deems to be "intelligent". They then listen to the aforementioned society and trust on the corrupt being that they are to make a set of rules that they believe are "right" for society.


What should happen to the teacher, and what's your over-all opinion of the situation?

Let the debating begin.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:22 pm

I can already foresee the shit flinging that will commence.

Of course, if the tutor had been saying "God does exist, and He revealed himself through the Lord Jesus," then all would be okay.

But the tutor said God does not exist, so therefore it's not okay.

I just spoiled the thread. :p



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Postby United States of Conner » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:22 pm

I feel like your OP started out with a story and then went downhill into a massive attack on atheism in general.

Pretty impressive that you managed to go down at all considering you started by sourcing RT.
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Postby New Axiom » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:24 pm

As a Christian, I'm appalled by this. That teacher should have been fired for the reason you stated, among others.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:24 pm

United States of Conner wrote:I feel like your OP started out with a story and then went downhill into a massive attack on atheism in general.

Pretty impressive that you managed to go down at all considering you started by sourcing RT.


I called it, didn't I?

"Man, it's good the tutor was teaching kids about religion, but sadly he was luring them astray. Bad, bad man."

Of course, the ideal thing to say is, "It's not up to me. It's up to you to decide for yourself what you believe in. Preferably, of course, if you didn't hurt anyone else along the way."



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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:25 pm

First get your definition of atheism correct. Second learn more about what macro and micro evolution is. Finally choose exactly what you want this thread to be about, you are covering a huge number of very large topics.

Oh and a hit and run.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:26 pm

12 yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Real!

Does that strike anything to you?

Oh, and by the way, Is no faith faith? How much faith is it?
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Postby United States of Conner » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:27 pm

After actually really reading the OP I'm once again surprised by how many falsehoods about atheism you can throw in there.

It's like I'm not even going to list them because some people are just too far to the dark side.
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Postby BK117B2 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:27 pm

The teacher shouldn't have brought that into the class.

As for the OP, the claim that atheism is a religion and requires faith is utterly nonsensical.

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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:27 pm

New Axiom wrote:As a Christian, I'm appalled by this. That teacher should have been fired for the reason you stated, among others.


You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p
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Postby United States of Conner » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:28 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:12 yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Real!

Does that strike anything to you?

Oh, and by the way, Is no faith faith? How much faith is it?

No faith is not faith. Left is not right. Up is not down.

I'm wondering how much of this we'll have to go through.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:28 pm

The source is RT? *shakes head and sighs*
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Postby New Axiom » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:28 pm

Gim wrote:
New Axiom wrote:As a Christian, I'm appalled by this. That teacher should have been fired for the reason you stated, among others.


You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p


True. This reminds me of the movie "Gods not Dead"
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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:28 pm

Wallenburg wrote:The source is RT? *shakes head and sighs*


RT?
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:29 pm

United States of Conner wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:12 yo Texan Girl Told to Write that God is Real!

Does that strike anything to you?

Oh, and by the way, Is no faith faith? How much faith is it?

No faith is not faith. Left is not right. Up is not down.

I'm wondering how much of this we'll have to go through.

2+2=10

Prove that wrong!
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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:29 pm

United States of Conner wrote:After actually really reading the OP I'm once again surprised by how many falsehoods about atheism you can throw in there.

It's like I'm not even going to list them because some people are just too far to the dark side.


After reading the OP, I myself found it was copypasta. Turns out the originator of the OP posted the comment three times. Maybe, though, the OP is the original source of the content of the OP.



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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:29 pm

New Axiom wrote:
Gim wrote:
You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p


True. This reminds me of the movie "Gods not Dead"


You mean a really shitty movie that has really bad portrayals of the argument?
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Postby United States of Conner » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:30 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
United States of Conner wrote:No faith is not faith. Left is not right. Up is not down.

I'm wondering how much of this we'll have to go through.

2+2=10

Prove that wrong!

I ...

I can't.

everything i know is a lie
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Postby Rusozak » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:30 pm

Wallenburg wrote:The source is RT? *shakes head and sighs*


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Postby United States of Conner » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:30 pm

Gim wrote:
New Axiom wrote:As a Christian, I'm appalled by this. That teacher should have been fired for the reason you stated, among others.


You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p

Truly unheard of.
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Postby Nova Caelston » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:30 pm

I hate to be a SM, and Im evena religious person(not saying my religion), but, dude....
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

a·the·ist
ˈāTHēəst/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

By definition, ateism is NOT a religion. Just because you THINK its a religion, does not mean it IS a religion....
But either way, back to the actual topic:
The woman should be fired and never allowed to teach again... Because to force any personal(note, personal, not religious) belief upon a child is wrong.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:31 pm

Gim wrote:
New Axiom wrote:As a Christian, I'm appalled by this. That teacher should have been fired for the reason you stated, among others.


You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p


You do realize the article linked in the OP explictly mentions a case ("School ‘banishes’ 7yo student for saying he doesn’t believe in God") of a little boy barred from eating lunch with his classmates for espousing his belief in atheism?

New Axiom wrote:
Gim wrote:
You don't see Christian teachers forcing their students to recite or write about Christianity. :p


True. This reminds me of the movie "Gods not Dead"


What do you mean true? Because Christian teachers arguably do this a lot of times. In fact, the Christian Right practically demands all American students learn about (their brand of) Christianity.

And am I to assume that you would have no problem with the tutor had he done exactly that?



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Postby Palakistan » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:31 pm

Neutraligon wrote:First get your definition of atheism correct. Second learn more about what macro and micro evolution is. Finally choose exactly what you want this thread to be about, you are covering a huge number of very large topics.

Oh and a hit and run.

His definitions seemed fine to me. But I do agree he does need to narrow it a bit.
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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:31 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
True. This reminds me of the movie "Gods not Dead"


You mean a really shitty movie that has really bad portrayals of the argument?


So, do you believe it is right for the teacher to force his student to write in support of atheism or the fact that God does not exist?
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Postby Palakistan » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:32 pm

Nova Caelston wrote:I hate to be a SM, and Im evena religious person(not saying my religion), but, dude....
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

a·the·ist
ˈāTHēəst/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

By definition, ateism is NOT a religion. Just because you THINK its a religion, does not mean it IS a religion....
But either way, back to the actual topic:
The woman should be fired and never allowed to teach again... Because to force any personal(note, personal, not religious) belief upon a child is wrong.

According to the US justice system Veganism can be considered a religion.
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