English Prison System sends Transgender Woman to Male Prison

[Vassenor]

It's evidently not working too well if the mind is rejecting the body, leading to high levels of mental disturbance and suicides within untreated transgenders.

Then the right way to proceed in this case would be to send such a person to a psychiatrist, who would help such a person to accept his/her body "as is", instead of mutilating your God-given body. That's how mental illnesses are normally cured.

I wish you all a good night. I'm tired.

Which is why most actual competent psychiatrists help people diagnosed with GID to transition, rather than trying to force them to identify otherwise.

What you are also suggesting is illegal in at least four US states and generally considered a human rights violation.

[Mairland]

Whatever.

Born a male ---> have passport that says you are male ---> registered as a man ---> you go to a male prison.

[Liriena]

It's evidently not working too well if the mind is rejecting the body, leading to high levels of mental disturbance and suicides within untreated transgenders.

Then the right way to proceed in this case would be to send such a person to a psychiatrist, who would help such a person to accept his/her body "as is", instead of mutilating your God-given body. That's how mental illnesses are normally cured.

Transgender identity is not a "mental illness", and transgender people do generally see psychiatrists... and psychiatrists themselves usually recommend transitioning as a course of treatment. What you are proposing is "converstion therapy", which doesn't work. It only makes things worse.

[Wallenburg]

You think he fucking backs pedos? Oh right, being trans is as evil as being a super-pedo, how silly of me.
Yes, yes I support that position. People who rape kiddies are as evil as people who change their bodies to comport to their brain's perceptions. Makes perfect fucking sense.
Time to support pedo rights, Ostro.

I don't appreciate your insinuation that all pedophiles rape children.

[New Frenco Empire]

It's evidently not working too well if the mind is rejecting the body, leading to high levels of mental disturbance and suicides within untreated transgenders.

Then the right way to proceed in this case would be to send such a person to a psychiatrist, who would help such a person to accept his/her body "as is", instead of mutilating your God-given body. That's how mental illnesses are normally cured.

I wish you all a good night. I'm tired.

Can you guess what most qualified psychiatrists of merit would suggest? No?

Hormone therapy and (maybe) surgery. Shocking, right?

[Wisconsin9]

Then the right way to proceed in this case would be to send such a person to a psychiatrist, who would help such a person to accept his/her body "as is", instead of mutilating your God-given body. That's how mental illnesses are normally cured.

Transgender identity is not a "mental illness", and transgender people do generally see psychiatrists... and psychiatrists themselves usually recommend transitioning as a course of treatment. What you are proposing is "converstion therapy", which doesn't work. It only makes things worse.

yeah but who are you to decide what is and isnt better huh

[New Frenco Empire]

Whatever.

Born a male ---> have passport that says you are male ---> registered as a man ---> you go to a male prison.

You know, except...fucking doctors have said otherwise?

[Liriena]

Whatever.

Born a male ---> have passport that says you are male ---> registered as a man ---> you go to a male prison.

---> become the target of disproportionate amounts of violence, because no amount of shoddy biological essentialism can change the fact that you are, both internally and externally, a woman in an all-male prison.

Congrats. You may well end up having a woman's blood on your hands, courtesy of your transphobia.

[Legrian Dominion]

You think he fucking backs pedos? Oh right, being trans is as evil as being a super-pedo, how silly of me.
Yes, yes I support that position. People who rape kiddies are as evil as people who change their bodies to comport to their brain's perceptions. Makes perfect fucking sense.
Time to support pedo rights, Ostro.

I don't appreciate your insinuation that all pedophiles rape children.

Sorry. It won't happen again.

[Wallenburg]

I don't appreciate your insinuation that all pedophiles rape children.

Sorry. It won't happen again.

That's very courteous of you, but I wasn't quoting you.

[Legrian Dominion]

Sorry. It won't happen again.

That's very courteous of you, but I wasn't quoting you.

I have multiple puppets. Consortium of the Caigont is just one of them.

[USS Monitor]

It's evidently not working too well if the mind is rejecting the body, leading to high levels of mental disturbance and suicides within untreated transgenders.

Then the right way to proceed in this case would be to send such a person to a psychiatrist, who would help such a person to accept his/her body "as is", instead of mutilating your God-given body. That's how mental illnesses are normally cured.

I wish you all a good night. I'm tired.

Except sometimes that doesn't work and the person needs to transition. Why do you have faith in psychiatrists' ability to cure the mentally ill, but you don't trust them when they say some people are better off transitioning genders?

[Ifreann]

I'm sure Donald Trump would have no issue with wearing a patch with his own face on it.

He should do one of those endless picture things, where in the picture in the patch, he's wearing the patch, which also has a picture of him in its patch, and so forth.

No matter how closely you look at Donald Trump, he's still Donald Trump.

[New Benian Republic]

You know what you're right I'm going to be a dragon.

Dragons are cool, but you should be careful about that. They don't have the legal rights of a human being. It's not as fun as it sounds being something other than human.

I'll threaten to burn down their village or bribe them with my cave of loot.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's pointless discussing science with the scientifically illiterate.

[USS Monitor]

Dragons are cool, but you should be careful about that. They don't have the legal rights of a human being. It's not as fun as it sounds being something other than human.

I'll threaten to burn down their village or bribe them with my cave of loot.

The Confederacy didn't give ironclads the right to vote or own property when I threatened them with my guns.

[Val Halla]

It's pointless discussing science with the scientifically illiterate.

"XX chromosomes its science!"

"Here's evidence to prove you are wrong"

"Science is a lie!"

[Valystria]

It's pointless discussing science with the scientifically illiterate.

If only they would go back to justifying their hatemongering with religion instead of with a pitiful misunderstanding of science.

[The Serbian Empire]

Clearly a piece of paper trumps common sense and actual physical status in this day and age. Didn't have a choice? Bullshit. If the laws are not such as to enable transgender people to also have their legal documents reflect their status correctly, one can't very well rely on those documents to correctly state what their gender is.

Apparently the government bureaucrats are blinder than justice is.

[VelStatus Tellurianus]

It's pointless discussing science with the scientifically illiterate.

If only I'd thought of that before I went and talked to these transphobic bullshitters.

[Hirota]

Solitary is typically used for both people who are a risk to others, and who are at risk from others.

Comparing her (or other potential victims of prison violence) to someone who has tried to shiv a fellow inmate isn't a constructive approach.

I didn't compare her to someone who is a risk to others, but to someone who is at risk from others.

Apologies, I wasn't clear. I was referring to their policy of placing both violent inmates and at risk inmates in solitary or high security.

[Jersey Republic]

It may be an unpopular opinion but biological gender is your gender...You can't change it, so I see no wrong doing.

[Imperializt Russia]

The science backs out position. You're no better than a creationist when you pull this shit.

I take it that you admit that what you write is just a position, an opinion? Science once backed the mechanics of Newton, but in the end Newton's theory didn't work for very small, fast-moving particles (e.g. electrons) and Schrödinger et al. had to come up with quantum-mechanics to solve the problem, which shows that what seems to be backed by science is not always true.

I'm gonna quickly blow your mind here, but Newtonian physics is still a thing. Because it works. Macroscopic objects, that is anything you or I will interact with on a day to day basis, observes Newtonian physics and obeys the laws of motion.

Science still backs the mechanics of Newton.
Quantum physics only applies to the microscopic (microscopic in the physics sense, not in the sense of an object that can be viewed though a conventional microscope), and these microscopic scales still obey Newtonian physics in places.
One could argue that Newtonian physics are, broadly, more true than Quantum physics.

[Alyakia]

english prison system sends transgender woman to male prison and the continued veracity of possible lack thereof of newtonian physics in the modern era

[Wisconsin9]

It may be an unpopular opinion but biological gender is your gender...You can't change it, so I see no wrong doing.

It seems fairly popular to me, which is very sad because it's objectively wrong.