NYPD police officer shot in Harlem

[Ifreann]

The chickens have come home to roost

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

Previously absent fowl have returned and are now congregating to sleep.

[Eastern Equestria]

The chickens have come home to roost

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

Daburuetchi perceives this to be retaliatory act, despite there being nothing to corroborate such a claim.

[Daburuetchi]

The chickens have come home to roost

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

His death was a result of a climate of militarization and gun violence

[Risottia]

Criminals don't follow the rules... and this shows it.

And that's why everybody shoudn't follow the rules either!

Wait, what?

[Eastern Equestria]

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

His death was a result of a climate of militarization

If so, then prove that the bike thief who shot him had political motives. Otherwise, this is nothing more than conjecture.

and gun violence

"Policeman shot because of gun violence." No shit.

Circular reasoning aside, that doesn't affect your original supposition.

[Daburuetchi]

His death was a result of a climate of militarization

If so, then prove that the bike thief who shot him had political motives. Otherwise, this is nothing more than conjecture.

and gun violence

"Policeman shot because of gun violence." No shit.

Circular reasoning aside, that doesn't affect your original supposition.

I never said anything about the shooter having political motives. Other heavily armed countries like Switzerland have few gun related homocides in comparison to the US. It is evident that the culture is an important factor of gun violence. What is so circular or flawed about that o condescending arbiter of veracity?

[Uxupox]

The police officer got shot because he tried to impede a criminal from stealing a bike. It's that simple. Don't know any political motives behind this.

[Daburuetchi]

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

Daburuetchi perceives this to be retaliatory act, despite there being nothing to corroborate such a claim.

That is not the definition of chickens coming home to roost. All the phrase means was that their was causation
. I did not say this was a retaliatory act out of political motives. Thanks for stuffing words in my mouth

[Eastern Equestria]

If so, then prove that the bike thief who shot him had political motives. Otherwise, this is nothing more than conjecture.



"Policeman shot because of gun violence." No shit.

Circular reasoning aside, that doesn't affect your original supposition.

I never said anything about the shooter having political motives. Other heavily armed countries like Switzerland have few gun related homocides in comparison to the US. It is evident that the culture is an important factor of gun violence.

Now you're shifting the goalposts. You've made no mention of US gun culture until now. What you actually proposed was that this officer's death came as a result of the climate of police militarization, implying that the bike thief shot him in response to that climate. So I'll ask again, prove that this was a retaliatory act rather than a random act of criminal violence.

What is so circular or flawed about that o condescending arbiter of veracity?

The second explanation you gave for this act of gun violence occuring was just that, "gun violence". I don't think I need to explain why that logic is flawed.

[Palakistan]

10,000 defenseless civilians are executed by police officers yearly in the United States

I am going to object to the loaded terminology. Failures in target identification and officers shooting first because they thought someone was armed who wasn't is not "execution".

Same thoughts exactly. Unlike many others, I still respect police officers. Accidents to happen.

[Ethel mermania]

The police officer got shot because he tried to impede a criminal from stealing a bike. It's that simple. Don't know any political motives behind this.

He got shot cause the kid would have gone Away for a very long time if he were arrested, there were several outstanding warrenty for him.

[Eastern Equestria]

The police officer got shot because he tried to impede a criminal from stealing a bike. It's that simple. Don't know any political motives behind this.

He got shot cause the kid would have gone Away for a very long time if he were arrested, there were several outstanding warrenty for him.

The choice between doing ten years, and taking out some stupid motherfucker, ain't no choice at all.

But seriously, if this guy didn't deserve to get locked up for a long time before, he does now.

[Kubra]

Was he on the bike or in the process of removing the lock?

[Eastern Equestria]

Was he on the bike or in the process of removing the lock?

He stole the bike clean and was running away with it when he killed he officer that tried to chase him.

[Daburuetchi]

I never said anything about the shooter having political motives. Other heavily armed countries like Switzerland have few gun related homocides in comparison to the US. It is evident that the culture is an important factor of gun violence.

Now you're shifting the goalposts. You've made no mention of US gun culture until now. What you actually proposed was that this officer's death came as a result of the climate of police militarization, implying that the bike thief shot him in response to that climate. So I'll ask again, prove that this was a retaliatory act rather than a random act of criminal violence.

What is so circular or flawed about that o condescending arbiter of veracity?

The second explanation you gave for this act of gun violence occuring was just that, "gun violence". I don't think I need to explain why that logic is flawed.

Again I have yet to assert the primacy of gun culture as the motive. I have never proposed cultural or economic determinism as the cause but merely asserted the large rates of gun homcide in the United States can be in part attributed toward the culture of the US. My second explanation stated that we have a culture of gun violence which is pretty evident ton anyone who watches CNN. My first post did indeed refer to a climate or culture of gun violence and militarization. It don't see how such a basic assertion warrants so much hostility on your part

[Eastern Equestria]

Daburuetchi perceives this to be retaliatory act, despite there being nothing to corroborate such a claim.

That is not the definition of chickens coming home to roost. All the phrase means was that their was causation

That's not what that idiom means at all. It's another way of saying "he got what he deserved", which is fucking stupid because this individual cop did nothing wrong, and because this story has zilch to do with the larger problem of police abuse in the United States.

Now you're shifting the goalposts. You've made no mention of US gun culture until now. What you actually proposed was that this officer's death came as a result of the climate of police militarization, implying that the bike thief shot him in response to that climate. So I'll ask again, prove that this was a retaliatory act rather than a random act of criminal violence.



The second explanation you gave for this act of gun violence occuring was just that, "gun violence". I don't think I need to explain why that logic is flawed.

Again I have yet to assert the primacy of gun culture as the motive. I have never proposed cultural or economic determinism as the cause but merely asserted the large rates of gun homcide in the United States can be in part attributed toward the culture of the US. My second explanation stated that we have a culture of gun violence which is pretty evident ton anyone who watches CNN. My first post did indeed refer to a climate or culture of gun violence and militarization. It don't see how such a basic assertion warrants so much hostility on your part

Because it's irrelevant and loaded with false premises as they pertain to this particular case. Had you said something similar in response to this, it still would have been despicable, but at least it would have made sense.

[Kubra]

Was he on the bike or in the process of removing the lock?

He stole the bike clean and was running away with it when he killed he officer that tried to chase him.

oh, i see.
If he was riding it that woulda been ridiculous

[Eastern Equestria]

He stole the bike clean and was running away with it when he killed he officer that tried to chase him.

oh, i see.
If he was riding it that woulda been ridiculous

He might have been riding it. The OP's source doesn't specify.

[Kubra]

oh, i see.
If he was riding it that woulda been ridiculous

He might have been riding it. The OP's source doesn't specify.

i figured clean meant without the wheels

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I can't say I'll be shedding any tears.

Don't construe this to be advocacy rather than apathy.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

He got shot cause the kid would have gone Away for a very long time if he were arrested, there were several outstanding warrenty for him.

The choice between doing ten years, and taking out some stupid moherfucker, ain't no choice at all.

Basically.

Freedom and survival are things a lot of people take seriously.

[Daburuetchi]

That is not the definition of chickens coming home to roost. All the phrase means was that their was causation

That's not what that idiom means at all. It's another way of saying "he got what he deserved", which is fucking stupid because this individual cop did nothing wrong, and because this story has zilch to do with the larger problem of police abuse in the United States.

Again I have yet to assert the primacy of gun culture as the motive. I have never proposed cultural or economic determinism as the cause but merely asserted the large rates of gun homcide in the United States can be in part attributed toward the culture of the US. My second explanation stated that we have a culture of gun violence which is pretty evident ton anyone who watches CNN. My first post did indeed refer to a climate or culture of gun violence and militarization. It don't see how such a basic assertion warrants so much hostility on your part

Because it's irrelevant and loaded with false premises as they pertain to this particular case. Had you said something similar in response to this, it still would have been despicable, but at least it would have made sense.

The cause of the high rates of gun related homicides in the United States is completely irrelevant to a thread discussion gun based homicide? Sure you can criticize the way I tried to talk about the culture of gun violence but dismissing it as an irrelevant, false premise as a whole is ridiculous. In context this particular case is part of a pattern of larger gun violence in the US

[Eastern Equestria]

That's not what that idiom means at all. It's another way of saying "he got what he deserved", which is fucking stupid because this individual cop did nothing wrong, and because this story has zilch to do with the larger problem of police abuse in the United States.



Because it's irrelevant and loaded with false premises as they pertain to this particular case. Had you said something similar in response to this, it still would have been despicable, but at least it would have made sense.

The cause of the high rates of gun related homicides in the United States is completely irrelevant to a thread discussion gun based homicide? Sure you can criticize the way I tried to talk about the culture of gun violence but dismissing it as an irrelevant, false premise as a whole is ridiculous. In context this particular case is part of a pattern of larger gun violence in the US

Except that none of this has anything to do with your arguments that I was refuting. Quit shifting the goalposts, it's annoying.

[Nerovia]

Current update;

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/par ... -1.2410299

[Barraco Barner]

Amazing. Another makeshift platform for left-wing indulgence away from gun rights.