Boxing should be Banned

[Paginista]

it depends on the context and the nature of the activity and other contextual factors

in boxing though, it militates towards a ban since there's basically no societal good

Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football Handegg is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

FTFY

[South Donese Union]

Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football Handegg is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

FTFY

I was referencing Football for I am European.

[Galnius]

IM you still havent addressed how, similar to everything that has been banned, an underground will be formed for it. For boxing, this unregulated underground will cause MORE deaths, and the rates of 5.5 a year will go to hundreds

the police will deal with that

almost, the majority of the people would obey the law

"Police will deal with that".

Like with Marijuana, prohibition, etc.? Yeah no.

[Infected Mushroom]

it depends on the context and the nature of the activity and other contextual factors

in boxing though, it militates towards a ban since there's basically no societal good

Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

I'm only discussing one sport in this thread but it is possible that taking all of the factors into consideration, I would also be open-minded towards banning even a popular sport like rugby or football.

I don't think people should be allowed to consent to playing really violent sports. The socially responsible thing to do for a government is to protect them from themselves and from those who would exploit them (such as the hosts of the match).

[Flame Trees]

Of course not. But who cares, boxing has gone to shit the higher up the payscale you go anyway.

[Immoren]

On other hand he goes and goes about something about honor.
On another hand he wants to ban martial arts.
???

[Paginista]

FTFY

I was referencing Football for I am European.

I stand corrected. Sorry

[Infected Mushroom]

the police will deal with that

almost, the majority of the people would obey the law

"Police will deal with that".

Like with Marijuana, prohibition, etc.? Yeah no.

the prohibition on alcohol was a success but was pulled back because of political reasons

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html

[Flame Trees]

Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

I'm only discussing one sport in this thread but it is possible that taking all of the factors into consideration, I would also be open-minded towards banning even a popular sport like rugby or football.

I don't think people should be allowed to consent to playing really violent sports. The socially responsible thing to do for a government is to protect them from themselves and from those who would exploit them (such as the hosts of the match).

If you're not a fan, don't do it, it's their mistake to make.

[Infected Mushroom]

On other hand he goes and goes about something about honor.
On another hand he wants to ban martial arts.
???

there is nothing honourable about being paid to punch other people out

[Infected Mushroom]

I'm only discussing one sport in this thread but it is possible that taking all of the factors into consideration, I would also be open-minded towards banning even a popular sport like rugby or football.

I don't think people should be allowed to consent to playing really violent sports. The socially responsible thing to do for a government is to protect them from themselves and from those who would exploit them (such as the hosts of the match).

If you're not a fan, don't do it, it's their mistake to make.

not if we extended our protection to them

[Galnius]

"Police will deal with that".

Like with Marijuana, prohibition, etc.? Yeah no.

the prohibition on alcohol was a success but was pulled back because of political reasons

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html

"Opinion"
READ YOUR BLOODY LINKS BEFORE POSTING THEM

[Hurdegaryp]

"Police will deal with that".

Like with Marijuana, prohibition, etc.? Yeah no.

the prohibition on alcohol was a success but was pulled back because of political reasons

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html

It was quite the success for organized crime, yes.

[Galnius]

"Police will deal with that".

Like with Marijuana, prohibition, etc.? Yeah no.

the prohibition on alcohol was a success but was pulled back because of political reasons

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/[url]opinion[/url]/actually-prohibition-was-a-success[/quote]

[Immoren]

On other hand he goes and goes about something about honor.
On another hand he wants to ban martial arts.
???

there is nothing honourable about being paid to punch other people out

Of course it is. Duel is duel. *nods*

[Infected Mushroom]

the prohibition on alcohol was a success but was pulled back because of political reasons

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opini ... ccess.html

"Opinion"
READ YOUR BLOODY LINKS BEFORE POSTING THEM

the opinion was adequately supported by the facts that were presented, and these facts can be found in other confirmatory links

But I don't want to derail. The point is, that was in the 1930s, we are in the modern era now. And so law enforcement is even better. It all depends on how we go about enforcing it but that's a separate issue. We can make it clean and effective or we can make a big mess of it, only time will tell. But if we do it right, it should be fine.

[Infected Mushroom]

there is nothing honourable about being paid to punch other people out

Of course it is. Duel is duel. *nods*

Duels are about avenging your honour or settling a dispute so soldiers don't have to go and die...

this is about none of those things. It is simply a paid-to-fight paid-to-entertain unethical business

[Galnius]

"Opinion"
READ YOUR BLOODY LINKS BEFORE POSTING THEM

the opinion was adequately supported by the facts that were presented, and these facts can be found in other confirmatory links

But I don't want to derail. The point is, that was in the 1930s, we are in the modern era now. And so law enforcement is even better. It all depends on how we go about enforcing it but that's a separate issue. We can make it clean and effective or we can make a big mess of it, only time will tell. But if we do it right, it should be fine.

Law enforcement is worse actually...due to the constant threat of law suits, loopholes, and havuing more population to attempt to deal with. There is also the fact that many cops simply wouldnt enforce the ban.

[Infected Mushroom]

the opinion was adequately supported by the facts that were presented, and these facts can be found in other confirmatory links

But I don't want to derail. The point is, that was in the 1930s, we are in the modern era now. And so law enforcement is even better. It all depends on how we go about enforcing it but that's a separate issue. We can make it clean and effective or we can make a big mess of it, only time will tell. But if we do it right, it should be fine.

Law enforcement is worse actually...due to the constant threat of law suits, loopholes, and havuing more population to attempt to deal with. There is also the fact that many cops simply wouldnt enforce the ban.

then those are all issues that we can address along the way

[South Donese Union]

Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

I'm only discussing one sport in this thread but it is possible that taking all of the factors into consideration, I would also be open-minded towards banning even a popular sport like rugby or football.

I don't think people should be allowed to consent to playing really violent sports. The socially responsible thing to do for a government is to protect them from themselves and from those who would exploit them (such as the hosts of the match).

But what someone does for entertainment is entirely up to them as long as it is consented by both participants and legal, which each violent professional sport is.

[Asyir]

On other hand he goes and goes about something about honor.
On another hand he wants to ban martial arts.
???

there is nothing honourable about being paid to punch other people out

There is more honor in punching people out then dictating what consenting adults can and can't do.

[Flame Trees]

If you're not a fan, don't do it, it's their mistake to make.

not if we extended our protection to them

"Extend our protection"? If "protection" is not willingly accepted, it's called something else.

[Galnius]

Law enforcement is worse actually...due to the constant threat of law suits, loopholes, and havuing more population to attempt to deal with. There is also the fact that many cops simply wouldnt enforce the ban.

then those are all issues that we can address along the way

We havent yet, and we never will, unless the U.S. becomes totilatarian, which would cause the army to turn on the government, and just eject the ban and ideas anyway. Nice idealism though

[Infected Mushroom]

then those are all issues that we can address along the way

We havent yet, and we never will, unless the U.S. becomes totilatarian, which would cause the army to turn on the government, and just eject the ban and ideas anyway. Nice idealism though

enforcing laws =/= totalitarianism

also, I doubt the military would act with such dishonour

[Flame Trees]

then those are all issues that we can address along the way

We havent yet, and we never will, unless the U.S. becomes totilatarian, which would cause the army to turn on the government, and just eject the ban and ideas anyway. Nice idealism though

Oh yes, armies are notoriously libertarian institutions.