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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:00 am

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The Confederal Republic of Tayas wrote:From a right-libertarian's point of view, this is silly. Boxing is not a blood sport and nobody is forcing boxers to participate in the practice. Therefore, it is a victimless crime.


it is a blood sport, people have died and been injured, and it involves punching each other

also, people have literally bled


The proper terminology is combat or fighting sport, at least pretend you have some idea what you're talking about.
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:05 am

Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:We should ban football too. Teach the damned Americans some real sports.


Let's ban high school sports altogether, and spend the money on art and music.

We'd still save lots of tax dollars. And maybe get our priorities straight.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:05 am

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Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:We should ban football too. Teach the damned Americans some real sports.


Let's ban high school sports altogether, and spend the money on art and music.

We'd still save lots of tax dollars. And maybe get our priorities straight.


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:07 am

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Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:We should ban football too. Teach the damned Americans some real sports.


Let's ban high school sports altogether, and spend the money on art and music.

We'd still save lots of tax dollars. And maybe get our priorities straight.


Would you also ban Dance?
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Postby Protestant England and Germany » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:13 am

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Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:We should ban football too. Teach the damned Americans some real sports.


Let's ban high school sports altogether, and spend the money on art and music.

We'd still save lots of tax dollars. And maybe get our priorities straight.

Yes, lets ban sports and physical activity. We'll all become fat useless blobs as the rest of the world prospers.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:14 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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it is a blood sport, people have died and been injured, and it involves punching each other

also, people have literally bled


The proper terminology is combat or fighting sport, at least pretend you have some idea what you're talking about.


In my view blood sport is a very good descriptor here

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:17 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The proper terminology is combat or fighting sport, at least pretend you have some idea what you're talking about.


In my view blood sport is a very good descriptor here


And your view is irrelevant, you have still yet to give any good or convincing reasons why anyone should support banning things like boxing.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:18 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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In my view blood sport is a very good descriptor here


And your view is irrelevant, you have still yet to give any good or convincing reasons why anyone should support banning things like boxing.


I have given my reasons in the OP

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:18 am

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And your view is irrelevant, you have still yet to give any good or convincing reasons why anyone should support banning things like boxing.


I have given my reasons in the OP


And they aren't good or convincing, as everyone has told you over the past 36 pages.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:19 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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I have given my reasons in the OP


And they aren't good or convincing, as everyone has told you over the past 36 pages.


and yet the first reply agrees, there have also been other instance of agreement or partial agreement

so your statement is wrong (though even if established, its irrelevant... an idea's validity does not depend on popularity)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:20 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And they aren't good or convincing, as everyone has told you over the past 36 pages.


and yet the first reply agrees, there have also been other instance of agreement or partial agreement

so your statement is wrong (though even if established, its irrelevant... an idea's validity does not depend on popularity)


Alright, convince me right now that boxing should be banned. If you can I will agree you have a valid idea.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:22 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
and yet the first reply agrees, there have also been other instance of agreement or partial agreement

so your statement is wrong (though even if established, its irrelevant... an idea's validity does not depend on popularity)


Alright, convince me right now that boxing should be banned. If you can I will agree you have a valid idea.


its inherently violent and immoral, a blood sport too

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:23 am

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Alright, convince me right now that boxing should be banned. If you can I will agree you have a valid idea.

its inherently violent and immoral, a blood sport too

I must admit that I would prefer to see boxing replaced by tank gladiators.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:24 am

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Infected Mushroom wrote:its inherently violent and immoral, a blood sport too

I must admit that I would prefer to see boxing replaced by tank gladiators.


it would be too destructive...

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:24 am

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Alright, convince me right now that boxing should be banned. If you can I will agree you have a valid idea.


its inherently violent and immoral, a blood sport too


There's nothing immoral about it, stop using words you don't understand. Violent? To a point yes, hence it being a combat sport that nobody is forced to partake in.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:25 am

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Infected Mushroom wrote:its inherently violent and immoral, a blood sport too

I must admit that I would prefer to see boxing replaced by tank gladiators.


I fully support this idea, sign me up.
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Postby South Donese Union » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:25 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The proper terminology is combat or fighting sport, at least pretend you have some idea what you're talking about.


In my view blood sport is a very good descriptor here


I agree. Who wouldn't feel awesome fighting a blood sport?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:26 am

South Donese Union wrote:
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In my view blood sport is a very good descriptor here


I agree. Who wouldn't feel awesome fighting a blood sport?


those who wind up injured, impaired or dead for one thing

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:27 am

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South Donese Union wrote:
I agree. Who wouldn't feel awesome fighting a blood sport?


those who wind up injured, impaired or dead for one thing


I've been injured in training before, never stopped me from coming back.
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Postby South Donese Union » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:28 am

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I agree. Who wouldn't feel awesome fighting a blood sport?


those who wind up injured, impaired or dead for one thing


People die and get injured in almost every sport and in every day life, should we ban that too?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:29 am

South Donese Union wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
those who wind up injured, impaired or dead for one thing


People die and get injured in almost every sport and in every day life, should we ban that too?


it depends on the context and the nature of the activity and other contextual factors

in boxing though, it militates towards a ban since there's basically no societal good

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:30 am

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Hurdegaryp wrote:I must admit that I would prefer to see boxing replaced by tank gladiators.

I fully support this idea, sign me up.

A bit like Girls und Panzer, but with more readily available and less antique military hardware. Of course it's perfectly possible to create replicas of more ancient machine, mind you.
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Postby Galnius » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:33 am

IM you still havent addressed how, similar to everything that has been banned, an underground will be formed for it. For boxing, this unregulated underground will cause MORE deaths, and the rates of 5.5 a year will go to hundreds
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Postby South Donese Union » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:34 am

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South Donese Union wrote:
People die and get injured in almost every sport and in every day life, should we ban that too?


it depends on the context and the nature of the activity and other contextual factors

in boxing though, it militates towards a ban since there's basically no societal good


Well rugby is inherently violent, possibly on par with boxing yet no one wishes it to be banned. Football is often violent, especially after the games, yet no one has seeked to ban it. By targeting one sport that consists of punching is ridiculous because that is all it is. Punching, dodging from side to side occasionally. The participants of the sport are fully aware of the risks and accept them, which means that if a player dies, then the boxers are aware of that. If they didn't want to be injured or die, then they shouldn't be boxing.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:37 am

Galnius wrote:IM you still havent addressed how, similar to everything that has been banned, an underground will be formed for it. For boxing, this unregulated underground will cause MORE deaths, and the rates of 5.5 a year will go to hundreds


the police will deal with that

almost, the majority of the people would obey the law

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