Boxing should be Banned

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

As people have stated over 100 times in this thread, the actual health harm of boxing is very low.

Are you expecting IM to listen? Are you fucking mad? This is basically how the Infected Mushrooms-Intelligent Poster debacle has been so far:

"Boxing can cause injury, we must ban it."
"IM, there are studies that show that boxing causes few dea--"
"Boxing causes injuries, therefor deaths. I rest my case, and your articles are false."
"IM, I'm not using articles fit for the Onion or Fox News like you are, and on a regular basis at that."

[New Grestin]

Yeah, no.

Boxing isn't some horrible bloodsport. Well, it isn't nowadays, at least.

People enjoy watching it just as much as other sports, many of which can be just as violent (if not more).

Hell, taking into account the riots caused by Football (American and literally everyone else), Boxing's pretty tame.

[Noraika]

I agree with Infected Mushroom to a certain extent. Boxing is allowed, but other forms of sports - like the Colosseum, or other forms of blood sport - are not be allowed. That is why we should bring back gladiatorial fights. It does not necessarily have to be lethal, but an annual event where there are lethal fights wouldn't hurt either.

[Forsher]

Do you know what annoys me about this thread? if literally anyone other than IM had written the OP the following posts would simply not exist...

I think you have an incredible ability to be painfully wrong.

Oh, look. Another IM thread about banning something.

Dude, really, get a life.

I've noticed the OP has somewhat of a history of posting ludicrous suggestions and ideas like this one. I can't help but wonder if it's a creative form of attention-seeking or self-affirmation. My other explanation to this is that the OP is simply on the NS payroll, deliberately making ludicrous posts to stir up debate and keep the activity on NSG going.

Don't act like this is some really strange topic, do not for a single second pretend that this isn't something that people don't actually sit down and consider, because these things simply are not true. There is a wider conversation on this topic that pops up every now and again. The toilet thread was more conspicuous in this respect because I can actually recall other people posting such threads on NSG (and, of course, one must consider that, like this one, people care enough to actually continue posting).

If it looks like griefing...

...it's unreported.

Now, this isn't to say that IM is using conventional logic brought up in these discussions (honestly, I don't know) or that what he says is true. It is to say that this is an entirely boring conversation. Nor is it to say that there aren't other issues being thought of when posts of the type above are made but it is to say that these posts exist is problematic.

Now, as to the topic itself? I don't think boxing should be banned. I don't care enough about the topic, personally, to bother developing a more informed set of reasons beyond, "Hmm, people seem to like it and it's not inherently lethal.. as long as there is no coercion..."

[USS Monitor]

Because boxing, not these other comparable things being mentioned, is what he doesn't like.
*nods*

my views on the other sports are not within the scope of this topic, nor would a revelation concerning them shed any light on whether or not for the narrow subject of boxing, a prohibition would be reasonable or not

Some people prefer to have logically consistent legal systems. Maybe you don't value logical consistency, but for those of us who do, it makes sense to consider other sports. If boxing is too violent and dangerous, are there other sports that have the same problems? What effect would it have if we banned all the sports that have those problems? If you want to ban boxing and maintain logical consistency, you need to think about this stuff.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Do you know what annoys me about this thread? if literally anyone other than IM had written the OP the following posts would simply not exist...

I think you have an incredible ability to be painfully wrong.

Oh, look. Another IM thread about banning something.

Dude, really, get a life.

I've noticed the OP has somewhat of a history of posting ludicrous suggestions and ideas like this one. I can't help but wonder if it's a creative form of attention-seeking or self-affirmation. My other explanation to this is that the OP is simply on the NS payroll, deliberately making ludicrous posts to stir up debate and keep the activity on NSG going.

Don't act like this is some really strange topic, do not for a single second pretend that this isn't something that people don't actually sit down and consider, because these things simply are not true. There is a wider conversation on this topic that pops up every now and again. The toilet thread was more conspicuous in this respect because I can actually recall other people posting such threads on NSG (and, of course, one must consider that, like this one, people care enough to actually continue posting).

If it looks like griefing...

...it's unreported.

Now, this isn't to say that IM is using conventional logic brought up in these discussions (honestly, I don't know) or that what he says is true. It is to say that this is an entirely boring conversation. Nor is it to say that there aren't other issues being thought of when posts of the type above are made but it is to say that these posts exist is problematic.

Now, as to the topic itself? I don't think boxing should be banned. I don't care enough about the topic, personally, to bother developing a more informed set of reasons beyond, "Hmm, people seem to like it and it's not inherently lethal.. as long as there is no coercion..."

Posting the truth is not problematic. Harsh maybe, but the truth is never easy. And we do get tired of the ridiculous directions his OPs take. Ban dogs, ban suits, ban paid public restrooms... Seriously. IM has a habit of taking things to extreme, with every single topic he brings up for discussion. Don't act so surprised yourself when people point the obvious.

[Galnius]

When the pros outweigh the cons, and the worst case scenario is rare and occurs when one isn't following the guidelines (about 5.5 people per year out of the tens of millions who box each year), then logically one cannot consider it a true danger in fact, here is a video done by a law school about the BENEFITS of boxing, which highly overrides the two opinion articles and the wiki placed in the op. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiMcl0ObDo

I love how infected ignores this because it destroys everything he is trying

[Lydenburg]

What irrelevant non-issue will offend me today?

[Ifreann]

What irrelevant non-issue will offend me today?

Wearing socks with sandals: Crime against humanity?

[Infected Mushroom]

When the pros outweigh the cons, and the worst case scenario is rare and occurs when one isn't following the guidelines (about 5.5 people per year out of the tens of millions who box each year), then logically one cannot consider it a true danger in fact, here is a video done by a law school about the BENEFITS of boxing, which highly overrides the two opinion articles and the wiki placed in the op. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiMcl0ObDo

I love how infected ignores this because it destroys everything he is trying

Your video cannot bring the dead back to life

[No na mes left]

The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

this is daft as fuck pal there is literally nothing more exhilarating then getting a scrap on with another man in controlled circumstances

would you ban rugby? ozzie rules football? where do you draw the line?

if consenting adults fully aware of the risks want to fight under supervised conditions who are you to stop them

[Neutraligon]

I love how infected ignores this because it destroys everything he is trying

Your video cannot bring the dead back to life

That is true of any sport, or for that matter any activity or inactivity. Why is it relevant?

[Pope Joan]

Let people make an informed choice about whether or not to participate in or support this sport.

I was mentoring a teen who had some learning and emotional issues; participation in a youth boxing club (with its coveted prize of the big heavy belt) taught him focus and self-discipline. His grades got better, and he was no longer in after-school detention.

100 years ago, Sheldon's book In His Steps raised this issue as well; he suggested that a devoted Christian would reject this harmful sport. But he left it as an individual decision, not a government mandate.

[Galnius]

I love how infected ignores this because it destroys everything he is trying

Your video cannot bring the dead back to life

Neither can your ban, but it can increase the deaths by forcing boxers into the unregulated underground

[States of Peru]

Holy shit liberals stop banning stuff

[South Donese Union]

Why would you ban boxing? Surely watching two men or women spend minutes punching each other is far to entertaining to ban

[USS Monitor]

Holy shit liberals stop banning stuff

What makes you think this is a liberal thing?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Holy shit liberals stop banning stuff

1. How the fuck is this a liberal thing?
2. IM is not a liberal.

Try again.

[Hurdegaryp]

Holy shit liberals stop banning stuff

What makes you think this is a liberal thing?

Because thinking is hard.

Holy shit liberals stop banning stuff

1. How the fuck is this a liberal thing?
2. IM is not a liberal.

Try again.

He'll only blame the dreaded liberals harder.

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

We should ban football too. Teach the damned Americans some real sports.

[The Confederal Republic of Tayas]

From a right-libertarian's point of view, this is silly. Boxing is not a blood sport and nobody is forcing boxers to participate in the practice. Therefore, it is a victimless crime.

[Impaled Nazarene]

People enjoy watching it

I did not know that. I thought they all moved onto UFC and MMA because:
Boxing is just hugging, circling and 10 punches thrown every 3 minutes

[Gyrenaica]

So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

Drinking
Sex
Smoking
Any sport ever
Good luck to anyone trying to get those banned

And shooting. In america.

[Infected Mushroom]

From a right-libertarian's point of view, this is silly. Boxing is not a blood sport and nobody is forcing boxers to participate in the practice. Therefore, it is a victimless crime.

it is a blood sport, people have died and been injured, and it involves punching each other

also, people have literally bled

[Galnius]

From a right-libertarian's point of view, this is silly. Boxing is not a blood sport and nobody is forcing boxers to participate in the practice. Therefore, it is a victimless crime.

it is a blood sport, people have died and been injured, and it involves punching each other

also, people have literally bled

And people will go to the unregulated underground if you ban it. Which would you rather have? The ability to limit the deaths, or people dying from the underground sport left and right?