Boxing should be Banned

[Infected Mushroom]

the reasons are listed in the OP (to be applied contextually to the sum totals of the factors at play in boxing unless another situation is established to be perfectly/reasonably analogous)

You have still not explained why those reason should only be applied to boxing, or to martial arts in general. What is it that makes those sports unique that these reasons can only be applied to them. Why are you separating out those specific activities from all other activities.

I'm not sure they only apply to recreational sports. They likely apply in other contexts too. Its just that in those other contexts, there are likely other types of factors at play that override the determinative force of the risk of injury/death principle. There's also a question of degree.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Yeah, and they're all really shitty reasons. What don't you get about that?

People don't want a nanny state, it's all consensual and even if you do ban it's not like it'll go away. Some of those styles are hundreds of years old.

practices that are hundreds of years old can be eradicated

There's no reason to eradicate boxing though. Might doesn't make right, like you said. Or is it only okay if you agree with it?

[Infected Mushroom]

practices that are hundreds of years old can be eradicated

There's no reason to eradicate boxing though. Might doesn't make right, like you said. Or is it only okay if you agree with it?

What does ''Might doesn't make right'' have anything to do with the OP?

[Washington Resistance Army]

because people are capable of finding more productive, less risky, and equally rewarding hobbies (that don't include a high risk of brain damage, committing recreational assault and a substantial risk of death)

Training things like Muay Thai, Krav Maga, Judo etc are very productive and rewarding.

Quoting this because damn bottompage.

[BK117B2]

And why should risk of harm trump personal control over ones own body?

because people are capable of finding more productive, less risky, and equally rewarding hobbies (that don't include a high risk of brain damage, committing recreational assault and a substantial risk of death)

Irrelevant. We're not talking about other activities. We're talking about boxing.

Are you a mind reader to know what level of reward people find in different activities?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

And why should risk of harm trump personal control over ones own body?

because people are capable of finding more productive, less risky, and equally rewarding hobbies (that don't include a high risk of brain damage, committing recreational assault and a substantial risk of death)

People are also capable with making their own decisions on what they wish to do with their life, and if that entails boxing then there's no reason to bar them from doing that.

[Kar-Esseria]

Literally every sport has a risk of killing or seriously harming someone.

C'mon IM, you're not even trying.

[Infected Mushroom]

because people are capable of finding more productive, less risky, and equally rewarding hobbies (that don't include a high risk of brain damage, committing recreational assault and a substantial risk of death)

Irrelevant. We're not talking about other activities. We're talking about boxing.

Are you a mind reader to know what level of reward people find in different activities?

we don't want to promote an activity that involves genuine, recreational violence

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

There's no reason to eradicate boxing though. Might doesn't make right, like you said. Or is it only okay if you agree with it?

What does ''Might doesn't make right'' have anything to do with the OP?

You're proposing banning boxing, which would be a form of "might makes right", which is something you disagree with, so I was pointing out a contradiction in your logic.

[BK117B2]

Irrelevant. We're not talking about other activities. We're talking about boxing.

Are you a mind reader to know what level of reward people find in different activities?

we don't want to promote an activity that involves genuine, recreational violence

Irrelevant to the topic. We're not discussing promotion of anything. The topic is about banning something

[Infected Mushroom]

What does ''Might doesn't make right'' have anything to do with the OP?

You're proposing banning boxing, which would be a form of "might makes right", which is something you disagree with, so I was pointing out a contradiction in your logic.

why would banning boxing be a form of might makes right?

[The Free Territory of Rothbardia]

And why should risk of harm trump personal control over ones own body?

because people are capable of finding more productive, less risky, and equally rewarding hobbies (that don't include a high risk of brain damage, committing recreational assault and a substantial risk of death)

Well I'm sick on the couch, and don't realy have anything better to do than listen to an audio-book on Agorisem, and troll you... so... yea, prepair for brain-damage by way of overused 4chaned internet memes. Unless you can ban that? Or me.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Irrelevant. We're not talking about other activities. We're talking about boxing.

Are you a mind reader to know what level of reward people find in different activities?

we don't want to promote an activity that involves genuine, recreational violence

You are aware there's more to boxing than just beating each other up, right?

[Frisbeeteria]

Are you sure you aren't a troll?

If you created this puppet just so you could break the rules and call someone a troll, it backfired.

*** Warned for trollnaming on both this nation and your main nation ***

[The Free Territory of Rothbardia]

You're proposing banning boxing, which would be a form of "might makes right", which is something you disagree with, so I was pointing out a contradiction in your logic.

why would banning boxing be a form of might makes right?

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

[Infected Mushroom]

why would banning boxing be a form of might makes right?

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

typically the phrase ''might make right'' is invoked where the reasons for enforcing the policy are bogus and the only justification is raw naked power/brute force

I don't think this is the case here

[The Free Territory of Rothbardia]

why would banning boxing be a form of might makes right?

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

Excuse me while I quote my self... There are no freedoms in a State, but whatever.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

typically the phrase ''might make right'' is invoked where the reasons for enforcing the policy are bogus and the only justification is raw naked power/brute force

I don't think this is the case here

And you're wrong, your reasons are beyond bogus. They're just nonsense.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

You're proposing banning boxing, which would be a form of "might makes right", which is something you disagree with, so I was pointing out a contradiction in your logic.

why would banning boxing be a form of might makes right?

Because you'd be forcing your personal point of view on people without their consent, meaning you'd be using political might to make your own right. It's not that hard to see that.

[Comrade Sanders]

I agree. Boxing should be banned.

I Agree! Lets ban boxing, and everything else. Rather than having a blacklist we shall have a whitelist! We shall tell you what you CAN do rather than what you cant! and we shall replace the government with a Communist Socialist regime!

[The Isolationist State Of Islam]

No, boxing should not be banned. It is a ligament sport. Sure it can lead to injury, but so can football (American Football). Boxing takes actual skill, and just because you don't like it, doesn't mean other shouldn't be able to. There are plenty of things that hurt people that are legal, but in this case people are putting their personal freedoms over getting hurt.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

typically the phrase ''might make right'' is invoked where the reasons for enforcing the policy are bogus and the only justification is raw naked power/brute force

I don't think this is the case here

The reasons for your proposed ban are totally bogus, they're completely subjective and based on your own personal views and not anything reasonable.

[The Free Territory of Rothbardia]

[Infected Mushroom]

No, boxing should not be banned. It is a ligament sport. Sure it can lead to injury, but so can football (American Football).

so then maybe we could consider whether or not to ban American Football, but that's really a separate topic

[BK117B2]

Cause your using The State to further restrict freedoms.

typically the phrase ''might make right'' is invoked where the reasons for enforcing the policy are bogus and the only justification is raw naked power/brute force

I don't think this is the case here

Eh, the only 'justification' here is the ability to do it, so 'might makes right' seems to be a somewhat accurate assessment