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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:16 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:everybody drinks water.

everybody dies.

coincidence? I think not. water is a highly addictive substance, and everyone who drinks it dies. it is more dangerous then boxing, ban water.

Fact: all medical procedures have a 100% fatality rate. Ban medicine.


this has no relevance whatsoever to the thread

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:58 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:Fact: all medical procedures have a 100% fatality rate. Ban medicine.


this has no relevance whatsoever to the thread

Would it kill you to actually come up with a decent rebuttal for once?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:58 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:Fact: all medical procedures have a 100% fatality rate. Ban medicine.


this has no relevance whatsoever to the thread

I thought this would help you in the future ;)
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:36 am

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don't have much regard for it in this context

You believe that the resultant injuries of boxing override the application of consent?
Are you doing a comparison of gain/loss or positive/negative effects to come to this conclusion?

It's been a few pages, perhaps you missed this again.

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Postby Lupinus » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:53 am

All contact sports carry some risk of personal injury. Especially ones where violent contact is an inherent part of the sport (American football, for example). Whether or not a particular sport is deemed "acceptable" by the general public depends on the level of risk involved, our collective risk appetite or tolerance, and our social traditions.

A side note: I don't know how you're getting the idea that boxing is somehow a sign of the degeneracy or immorality of contemporary Western society. Western people have been boxing for thousands of years.
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Postby Ceruleasia » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:41 am

boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.

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Postby Everybody Needs Love » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:55 am

Ceruleasia wrote:boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.

You should probably avoid larger words if you are going to jumble them up. Also, it is NOT needed for economic stability.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:00 am

Everybody Needs Love wrote:
Ceruleasia wrote:boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.

You should probably avoid larger words if you are going to jumble them up. Also, it is NOT needed for economic stability.

More like Ceruleasia's post generating program needs a significant amount of rewriting.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:49 am

Ceruleasia wrote:boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.


its not fundamental to the economy, not even close, if anything it plays a relatively marginal role

hence this is outweighed by the harm

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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:59 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ceruleasia wrote:boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.


its not fundamental to the economy, not even close, if anything it plays a relatively marginal role

hence this is outweighed by the harm

Quantify it for us.
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Postby Everybody Needs Love » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:21 pm

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Ceruleasia wrote:boxing entertainment is essential to us especially to entertainment capital countries for their economic stability and profile prior to the leadership of a certain ruler is the determinant of their jurisdiction.

You should probably avoid larger words if you are going to jumble them up. Also, it is NOT needed for economic stability.

I think I am going to have to turn my own opinion around with all the evidence provided by the other side, I think it shouldn't be banned IF and only IF the people don't hate each other, fighting out of hatred is just not good.
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Postby Whuossau » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:18 pm

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Postby Everybody Needs Love » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:06 pm

Whuossau wrote:
Everybody Needs Love wrote:I think I am going to have to turn my own opinion around with all the evidence provided by the other side, I think it shouldn't be banned IF and only IF the people don't hate each other, fighting out of hatred is just not good.

Yeah, most boxers have a sort of camaraderie when it comes to the sport. Rarely do they truly hate each other.

Well, if they don't hate each other we should be clear unless there is heavy injuries
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Postby TitanShen » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:11 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?


Liberals.. I really hate the statement "for their own good". We need to get rid of the nanny state, and let adults be adults. I'm pretty sure boxers know the risks of being punched in the face repetitively over the course of years. Let me ask this question, do you think we should ban all fast food? That leads to heart disease, obesity, stroke, etc. What about tobacco? That leads to heart disease, stroke, cancer, emphysema, etc. Alcohol? Cancer. How about motorcycles? People would be so much safer in a car, wouldn't they?

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Postby Alvecia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:13 am

TitanShen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?


Liberals..

That seems like an unecessary generalisation. If you read the thread you would probably note that even the most liberal posters here disagree with the OP.
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Postby Miarie » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:15 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

Should be used to punish criminals or settle disputes as a quicker and less costly alternative to war (Although deadly duels are better for this as only one side of the dispute exists once the duel is over). Also, if you are stupid enough to go in a ring and get punched in the head; go ahead and get injured/die, it isn't the governments job to babysit it's people.
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Postby Isle Coolidge » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:44 am

"It doesn't matter how dangerous boxing is, if people want to risk their health and their lives, so be it. It's not the government's choice to make."
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