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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:28 pm

Redsection wrote:if boxing is banned,that would call for all other sports to be banned.


No, other sports are not blatantly violent and harmful

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:28 pm

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Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically


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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:29 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Redsection wrote:if boxing is banned,that would call for all other sports to be banned.


No, other sports are not blatantly violent and harmful

Um, American football?
Rugby?
Wrestling?
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Postby Lavochkin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:29 pm

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Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically

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Postby Doom Legions » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:29 pm

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Doom Legions wrote:I'd rather not have my opponent use my manhood as punching bags. :S

Simple solution: remove your manhood. :p

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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:29 pm

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Doom Legions wrote:I'd rather not have my opponent use my manhood as punching bags. :S

Simple solution: remove your manhood. :p

I'm not having boxers get in my way >:(
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Postby Redsection » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:30 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:30 pm

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Redsection wrote:if boxing is banned,that would call for all other sports to be banned.


No, other sports are not blatantly violent and harmful

Ice Hockey, Martial Arts, Rugby, Wrestling (and i mean actual wrestling), Hurling, American Football.

People have suffered massive and longlasting injuries or died in all of those sports, many of them on the same level as Boxing. Basic research would show this.

So why dont you ban them?
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Postby Second Blazing » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:30 pm

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Doom Legions wrote:No. Just no.


Have you no sense of adventure? :p


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Postby Redsection » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:31 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:
No, other sports are not blatantly violent and harmful

Um, American football?
Rugby?
Wrestling?


Rugby,the lawless sport as I call it.Very painful to play.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:31 pm

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Who would? But the risk is part of the fun. :)

Yesssss. Cause betting your balls makes games more exciting. (actually it does but only for the viewers)


I have been struck in the groin more times than I can count(I lost count in the low two hundreds) and It has never been boring. :meh:
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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically

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Postby Forth Firth » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically


Yet you look to physical injury as the only outcome of boxing. You ignore physical fitness, pleasure in competition, finance, etc, etc.

It doesn't really follow all too logically

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:32 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically


Living is bad for us. It will eventually kill us all.


You can dispute what is or isn't bad for a person.

What I am not okay with (because it simply doesn't follow logically) is for people to say like the previous poster...

''Just because something is bad doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.''

Because that just makes no sense at all. If you said ''I don't think its bad for you'' or ''I don't think its bad for every single person'' and then provide reasons, we have something to talk about.

But if you're going to go... ''Well it IS bad''... BUT... it doesn't follow that you shouldn't do it... you have completely lost me.

Because there is no logical scenario where you can accept something to be Bad and then go on to say... ''well it doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't do it.''

You can't reach that second part unless you are disputing that it is not bad.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:32 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Have you no sense of adventure? :p


You wanna take a nutshot from Mike Tyson, be my guest.


With the right incentive, I would.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:32 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
No, other sports are not blatantly violent and harmful

Um, American football?
Rugby?
Wrestling?

Hockey.
HEMA.
MMA.
Aussie football.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:33 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
You wanna take a nutshot from Mike Tyson, be my guest.


With the right incentive, I would.

Well at least you could tell us what having a burst testicle feels like.

Personally, one of mine twisting was enough.

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Postby The Ben Boys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:33 pm

People go into the ring knowing the risks, and everything is consensual. Just because it doesn't fit your elitist perfect world doesn't mean that it should be banned.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:33 pm

Forth Firth wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
actually, it does mean you shouldn't do it

if something is actually on balance bad for you, then the only logical course of action is to not do it. Hence the rule of... you shouldn't do it.

it follows logically


Yet you look to physical injury as the only outcome of boxing. You ignore physical fitness, pleasure in competition, finance, etc, etc.

It doesn't really follow all too logically


Second Blazing doesn't dispute that it is Bad (not in the quote anyways), he's disputing the conditional that follows from something being established as bad. And I don't agree with the conditional.

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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:34 pm

Doom Legions wrote:
Olthar wrote:Simple solution: remove your manhood. :p

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No.

It's either that or get used as target practice. :p
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:34 pm

Well if we ban boxing, we might as well ban any other martial art and combat sport. Hell, we might as well just ban all full-contact sports if we do that.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:35 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:People go into the ring knowing the risks, and everything is consensual. Just because it doesn't fit your elitist perfect world doesn't mean that it should be banned.


200 people could have been alive longer if they did not tragically meet their fate in a state-sanctioned entertainment of pure violence, and many people today would not have brain damage or wrist injuries from boxing

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:35 pm

Torisakia wrote:Well if we ban boxing, we might as well ban any other martial art and combat sport. Hell, we might as well just ban all full-contact sports if we do that.


and we should consider each and every sport on a case by case basis, but for boxing the red line has clearly been crossed

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:36 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
With the right incentive, I would.

Well at least you could tell us what having a burst testicle feels like.

Personally, one of mine twisting was enough.


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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:36 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
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You wanna take a nutshot from Mike Tyson, be my guest.


With the right incentive, I would.

I'd get punched once for a few million. Definitely. *nods*
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