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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:57 am

Jochistan wrote:Again, I seriously doubt you're actually poor.

No, but I don't maintain a yard.

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Postby United States of McDonalds » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:59 am

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No ones denying that tbh


Uh, yes, some have.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p26333954
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p26333800


I think they're talking more in the ideological sense, not in the 'what is the actual law' sense

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:59 am

Dakini wrote:It's already the norm in many countries. There's nothing wrong with this. And this is a bad thing how?


The people who favor circumcision aren't going to be too happy. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain from infant circumcision being discontinued. I wouldn't object but I imagine the pro-circumcision crowd will fight tooth and nail to have the practice continue.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:00 am

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I think they're talking more in the ideological sense, not in the 'what is the actual law' sense


Who knows, but they are still saying that parents don't have rights over their kids. The truth is that yes, they do have rights over their kids.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:01 am

Saiwania wrote:I wouldn't object but I imagine the pro-circumcision crowd will fight tooth and nail to have the practice continue.

Good, have them circumcised.

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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:01 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Who knows, but they are still saying that parents don't have rights over their kids. The truth is that yes, they do have rights over their kids.

They have the rights that we give them.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:03 am

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Who knows, but they are still saying that parents don't have rights over their kids. The truth is that yes, they do have rights over their kids.

They have the rights that we give them.


Who is this 'we'?

Certainly not the children.

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Postby United States of McDonalds » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:03 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I think they're talking more in the ideological sense, not in the 'what is the actual law' sense


Who knows, but they are still saying that parents don't have rights over their kids. The truth is that yes, they do have rights over their kids.


They do, but the one which allows them to circumcise non-consenting children for silly reasons isn't one i'm fond of

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:04 am

United States of McDonalds wrote:
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Who knows, but they are still saying that parents don't have rights over their kids. The truth is that yes, they do have rights over their kids.


They do, but the one which allows them to circumcise non-consenting children for silly reasons isn't one i'm fond of


Neither am I, but right now, the law is on the side of the parents.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:05 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:Who is this 'we'?

Certainly not the children.

You never told your father you'd murder him if he didn't apologize?

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:06 am

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Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:Who is this 'we'?

Certainly not the children.

You never told your father you'd murder him if he didn't apologize?


Because he has a machete around, and he knows how to use it.

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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:07 am

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Jochistan wrote:Again, I seriously doubt you're actually poor.

No, but I don't maintain a yard.

So? plenty of Middle Class people live in apartments. It doesn't take away from the fact that they're middle class. There are Apartments in the Suburbs.

There are people with lawns and backyards in downtown Oakland. I seriously doubt you were brought up in one of those places or anything like one of those places.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:08 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:Because he has a machete around, and he knows how to use it.

In his sleep. Good old fashioned murder.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:10 am

Jochistan wrote:There are people with lawns and backyards in downtown Oakland. I seriously doubt you were brought up in one of those places or anything like one of those places.

I lived in suburbs, most have a yard. But I spent my time reading because though I may be homosexual I was not a faggot.

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Postby Torisakia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:13 am

As a circumcised male, I couldn't care less about the whole consent/"body mutilation" thing. I've never exactly understood the pros of being uncircumcised, to be honest. I'll have to Google it sometime later.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:17 am

Saiwania wrote:
Dakini wrote:It's already the norm in many countries. There's nothing wrong with this. And this is a bad thing how?


The people who favor circumcision aren't going to be too happy. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain from infant circumcision being discontinued. I wouldn't object but I imagine the pro-circumcision crowd will fight tooth and nail to have the practice continue.

Why should they care? It's not their cocks.

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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:18 am

Test208 wrote:
Jochistan wrote:There are people with lawns and backyards in downtown Oakland. I seriously doubt you were brought up in one of those places or anything like one of those places.

I lived in suburbs, most have a yard. But I spent my time reading because though I may be homosexual I was not a faggot.

As did I. And going out on hill and forest trails by myself. Seems pretty close to me.

Are you calling me a faggot?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:18 am

Torisakia wrote:As a circumcised male, I couldn't care less about the whole consent/"body mutilation" thing. I've never exactly understood the pros of being uncircumcised, to be honest. I'll have to Google it sometime later.


Well, you are not a priori marked as a follower of a deity for one ;) Which of course carries slightly more weight if you actually desire to follow a different one OR consider the ones whose mark it is to be vile ;)
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:18 am

Jochistan wrote:Are you calling me a faggot?

No, that's excercise. That's not the same thing as being a materialist.

However, if you did soccer, that might be gay.
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:20 am

Test208 wrote:
Jochistan wrote:Are you calling me a faggot?

No, that's excercise. That's not the same thing as being a materialist.

However, if you did soccer, that might be gay.

Alright, no.

And I'm no materialist, believe me.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:22 am

Jochistan wrote:And I'm no materialist, believe me.

I forgive you for being middle class. You have true character.

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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:24 am

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Jochistan wrote:And I'm no materialist, believe me.

I forgive you for being middle class. You have true character.

well thanks.
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:25 am

Jochistan wrote:well thanks.

I'm still waiting on the pics, though.

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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:28 am

Test208 wrote:
Jochistan wrote:well thanks.

I'm still waiting on the pics, though.

What? when did I say I would...
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Postby Test208 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:29 am

Jochistan wrote:What? when did I say I would...

There's no need to be shy! Us noble people can trust each other.

we don't play soccer

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