Circumcision: Double Standard?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Before you even begin to start arguing about this topic, please look up Penn & Teller - Circumcision: Make the informed decision featuring Dr. Dean Edell. The video itself I refuse to link, and it is up to you whether or not you will see it. It features studies on circumcision and the procedure itself, which is why I will not link it.

And yet again, a reminder that it is NSFW.

In the United States of America, the most common surgical procedure preformed on men is circumcision, and lots of studies conclude that male circumcision are beneficial, as in accord to the CDC & AAP, or the Center for Disease Control and the American Association/Academy of Pediatrics, while also being circumcised for "not fitting in". The actual truth of the problem is that serious health risks are included(Please see Penn & Teller Show for more info feat. Dr. Dean Edell) are:

• Infection of the penis
• Hemorrhage
• Surgical Mishap
• Death of the Male.

While at the same time has no health benefits whatsoever.

On the other hand, let's give a look at Female circumcision, however, we don't use that phrase. We use Female genital mutilation. Why is that? That's up for you to talk about. But lets state a few facts. The World Health Organization claims that there isn't any health benefits, which is obviously visible. It is practiced mostly in the Arab World and Africa, without any health benefits whatsoever. Daughters and Granddaughters are circumcised for fear of not fitting in of social exclusion, and was recognized as a human rights violation by the United Nations GA.

So what do you think of all this? Is there a double standard? Is male circumcision right, or not?

In my own opinion, speaking as a circumcised male, who is comfortable with this circumcision, I find circumcision wrong and a procedure that shouldn't be preformed unless consented to.

[Morr]

I'd make an exception about circumcision for Jews, a sort of grandfather clause due to their religion, but otherwise it ought to be absolutely illegal to have your kids circumcised.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I'd make an exception about circumcision for Jews, a sort of grandfather clause due to their religion, but otherwise it ought to be absolutely illegal to have your kids circumcised.

There are far more people than Jews who perform some type of the ritual of circumcision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcis ... nd_culture

[The Serbian Empire]

I believe it should only be done in cases of extreme phimosis at this point.

[Dazchan]

I'm anti-circumcision, but object to people attempting to draw parallels between male circumcision and FGM.

Ridiculous hyperbole aside, non-medical circumcision of children should not be allowed. If they want it as an adult, go for it.

[Rock Lobsters]

I think I trust the CDC, and AAP more then a doctor on the Penn and Tellar show.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I believe it should only be done in cases of extreme phimosis at this point.

Medically or in generally?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

I'd make an exception about circumcision for Jews, a sort of grandfather clause due to their religion, but otherwise it ought to be absolutely illegal to have your kids circumcised.

They don't have the right to be protected from bodily harm?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

I think I trust the CDC, and AAP more then a doctor on the Penn and Tellar show.

Did you take a look at the video? Or not?

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Personally, I don't care. My wife cared, so our boys are circumcised. I suggested circumcising one twin and leaving the other uncircumcised so we could tell them apart, but I was overruled.

[Rock Lobsters]

I think I trust the CDC, and AAP more then a doctor on the Penn and Tellar show.

Did you take a look at the video? Or not?

I'll take a look at the video now, but I doubt the good doctor will be more credible then the CDC and AAP combined.

[Morr]

I'd make an exception about circumcision for Jews, a sort of grandfather clause due to their religion, but otherwise it ought to be absolutely illegal to have your kids circumcised.

They don't have the right to be protected from bodily harm?

Do you mean natural right? or do you mean a right merely provided by the state?

[Morr]

I'd make an exception about circumcision for Jews, a sort of grandfather clause due to their religion, but otherwise it ought to be absolutely illegal to have your kids circumcised.

There are far more people than Jews who perform some type of the ritual of circumcision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcis ... nd_culture

Okay, Islam as well. But most of these other cultures aren't in my country.

[Galloism]

Personally, I don't care. My wife cared, so our boys are circumcised. I suggested circumcising one twin and leaving the other uncircumcised so we could tell them apart, but I was overruled.

One can always tell a good joke when it leaves you uncertain how to respond.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Personally, I don't care. My wife cared, so our boys are circumcised. I suggested circumcising one twin and leaving the other uncircumcised so we could tell them apart, but I was overruled.

One can always tell a good joke when it leaves you uncertain how to respond.

Indeed.

[Gim]

It's really a Catch-22.
I object to circumcision, simply because it is painful to have it.
The reason I am making a simple conclusion to this is that the advantages and drawbacks are pretty much even.
When you circumcise, you allow for the penis to grow more, but, at the same time, you make your penis susceptible to diseases, due to the loss of a physical barrier.
When you do not circumcise, you allow for the protection of your penis from bacteria and germs, but you inhibit it from growing.

I'm not trying to be funny, but when a private part of an individual does not grow to its full length, reproduction can be difficult for those whose part has not grown fully.

[Fartsniffage]

I'm against cutting parts off children unless it's medically required for their survival to adulthood.

[Dazchan]

It's really a Catch-22.
I object to circumcision, simply because it is painful to have it.
The reason I am making a simple conclusion to this is that the advantages and drawbacks are pretty much even.
When you circumcise, you allow for the penis to grow more, but, at the same time, you make your penis susceptible to diseases, due to the loss of a physical barrier.
When you do not circumcise, you allow for the protection of your penis from bacteria and germs, but you inhibit it from growing.

I'm not trying to be funny, but when a private part of an individual does not grow to its full length, reproduction can be difficult for those whose part has not grown fully.

Do you have a source to back up your claims that not circumcising inhibits penis growth?

[Gim]

Do you have a source to back up your claims that not circumcising inhibits penis growth?

A circumcised penis may have a glans rim that flares out a bit more as it is not compressed by the foreskin.

I googled it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's really a Catch-22.
I object to circumcision, simply because it is painful to have it.
The reason I am making a simple conclusion to this is that the advantages and drawbacks are pretty much even.
When you circumcise, you allow for the penis to grow more, but, at the same time, you make your penis susceptible to diseases, due to the loss of a physical barrier.
When you do not circumcise, you allow for the protection of your penis from bacteria and germs, but you inhibit it from growing.

I'm not trying to be funny, but when a private part of an individual does not grow to its full length, reproduction can be difficult for those whose part has not grown fully.

Gim, I don't think that's factual.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Do you have a source to back up your claims that not circumcising inhibits penis growth?

A circumcised penis may have a glans rim that flares out a bit more as it is not compressed by the foreskin.

I googled it.

That doesn't back your claim, sorry.

[Kraylandia]

It's mutilation and should be outlawed for both genders, pure and simple.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

From Mensfaq.com:

It should be noted that while circumcision removes some extra skin (foreskin) from around the head of the penis, it does not shorten the actual penis length nor does the procedure affect the growth of the penis. The actual penis length and girth comprises of skin, protein tissues, cells and blood vessels and circumcision does not affect any of these structures. In other words, as only skin is being removed, the actual penis is not touched. Penis size (both thickness and length) is determined by the cell structure of the penis not the amount of skin.

[Gim]

I googled it.

That doesn't back your claim, sorry.

It appears in google, when you search, "Circumcision penis size".
www.mensfaq.com/en/penis/size/circumcis ... -size.html

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That doesn't back your claim, sorry.

It appears in google, when you search, "Circumcision penis size".
http://www.mensfaq.com/en/penis/size/ci ... -size.html

From Mensfaq.com:

It should be noted that while circumcision removes some extra skin (foreskin) from around the head of the penis, it does not shorten the actual penis length nor does the procedure affect the growth of the penis. The actual penis length and girth comprises of skin, protein tissues, cells and blood vessels and circumcision does not affect any of these structures. In other words, as only skin is being removed, the actual penis is not touched. Penis size (both thickness and length) is determined by the cell structure of the penis not the amount of skin.

To add, Wiki doesn't even mention inhibition of penis growth as a side effect of circumcision.