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Postby Noladea » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:58 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Noladea wrote:Hello, over on LCRUA I have a friend who is Trans, he ---> she, we have been helping her understand herself, and supporting her all through it,
she has a lot of suicidal thoughts and beats herself up a lot, we have been trying to cheer her up and give her friendship and camaraderie, and
help her understand she is more important than she thinks, she keeps calling herself a freak, stupid or worthless, when we know she isn't,
She is my most dearest and closest friend I had in years, I made her a poem of sorts that takes from some posts I made on the LCRUA RMB that helped her through this, here it is:

To Nina (Demon Catz) and anyone who needs it:

*hugs*
You are not a freak, stupid, or worthless,

You are a flower, about to bloom into a beautiful person,
and being smart dosen't matter, being kind does silly,
and if you were worthless, then why do I care for you, why does all of LCRUA care for you,

Nobody is worthless, especially you,
just keep this in mind,

You are amazing, nobody can tell you you aren't,

and If they do,

they just don't understand how amazing you are as a person, a camarade,
and a friend,

You are alive!

you are you!

the world surrounding you may control you,
but we won't, we will let you blossom into a beautiful flower,

We gain happiness,

we gain the feeling of caring for someone,

we get friendship from you as you do to us,

You gave us friendship and camaraderie, you gave us determination to live, you gave us hope, you gave us laughs

and cries, you gave us love,

you gave plenty, :)

Determination is what kept you alive so far,

we are here to make it stronger.

We will support you, we will care for you, we will love you,
and I will help you.



If only more people were like you, Tell her she's more than welcome to TG me if she needs to.

I will definitely tell her, :)
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I really try to help her, sometimes I think I care too much, but I need to so she can be happy, :)
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Postby Ularn » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:24 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Ularn wrote:Hah! Wait until you graduate and you start having this one a couple of times a year!


Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.

Ah.


...Shit.
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Postby Hetalia Dakota 2 II » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:01 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Ularn wrote:Hah! Wait until you graduate and you start having this one a couple of times a year!


Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.

Sounds like my family they kicked me out and disowned me. I say you don't want to go to college with money blackmail over you. Living a lie is bad.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:13 pm

Hetalia Dakota 2 II wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.

Sounds like my family they kicked me out and disowned me. I say you don't want to go to college with money blackmail over you. Living a lie is bad.

I've lived a lie for so many years and have many, many regrets. In fact, I fear that I've done severe emotional damage to myself to the point I probably have a lasting issue.
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Postby Ularn » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:03 pm

Hetalia Dakota 2 II wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.

Sounds like my family they kicked me out and disowned me. I say you don't want to go to college with money blackmail over you. Living a lie is bad.

See, I like to think my attitude would be "If I can't get your acceptance than at least I can take your money!" but obviously I'm on the outside looking in and I can see why you wouldn't want to burn those bridges if there's a chance they might come around some day.
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Postby Hetalia Dakota 2 II » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:07 pm

Ularn wrote:
Hetalia Dakota 2 II wrote:Sounds like my family they kicked me out and disowned me. I say you don't want to go to college with money blackmail over you. Living a lie is bad.

See, I like to think my attitude would be "If I can't get your acceptance than at least I can take your money!" but obviously I'm on the outside looking in and I can see why you wouldn't want to burn those bridges if there's a chance they might come around some day.

Because why give them that control over your life?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:38 am

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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:42 am


It's Greer, who cares what she thinks? I don't.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:43 am



Bloody Greer.
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:46 am

Fossil transphobic bigot says transphobic, bigoted things, film at eleven. Giving any weight to Greer's opinions on trans issues would be like giving weight to a Tyrannosaur's opinions on mammals. Sure, the T Rex is a huge, charismatic megafauna with a lot of press coverage, but it's also woefully behind the times and not related to mammals and mammalian issues at all.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:56 am

We are talking about someone who said that men should not be allowed to marry men because it has some negative effect on motherhood or something. But that women should still be allowed to marry women.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:57 am

Vassenor wrote:We are talking about someone who said that men should not be allowed to marry men because it has some negative effect on motherhood or something. But that women should still be allowed to marry women.

Yeah she's an idiot. Hence she shouldn't be taken seriously
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:31 am

Hetalia Dakota 2 II wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.

Sounds like my family they kicked me out and disowned me. I say you don't want to go to college with money blackmail over you. Living a lie is bad.


Except if I get into college, and then can't graduate from it because they take money from me, I'm letting them win. I just have to find some other way to pay for it, which is a problem, because I don't know how else to pay for it.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:33 am

She said her views were wrong. Then restated them. Jesus Christ or other religious figures
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:34 am

Val Halla wrote:She said her views were wrong. Then restated them. Jesus Christ or other religious figures


Old age is getting to her...
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:37 am

So it turns out there's actually three gender-neutral toilets here on this campus.

It just means having to run up three flights of stairs if I need to go on the off chance I show up presenting.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:39 am

Vassenor wrote:So it turns out there's actually three gender-neutral toilets here on this campus.

It just means having to run up three flights of stairs if I need to go on the off chance I show up presenting.


Well, it's one less thing to worry about.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:59 am

Welp I'm fangirling so hard right now
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:05 am

Val Halla wrote:Welp I'm fangirling so hard right now

Over whom?
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:07 am

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Val Halla wrote:Welp I'm fangirling so hard right now

Over whom?

Laura Jane Grace. She replied to me on Twitter. :D
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:11 am

I don't know who that is, but cool?
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:12 am

Aphryss wrote:I don't know who that is, but cool?

An awesome musician.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:13 am

Aphryss wrote:I don't know who that is, but cool?


This is Laura Jane Grace, lead singer of the band Against Me!.

I don't listen to them, but Callie has always been fangirling about them :P
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:14 am

Guess I don't know why I was going on about toilets when I'm still not at the public presentation phase.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:23 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Ularn wrote:Hah! Wait until you graduate and you start having this one a couple of times a year!


Nono you don't understand. I am legitimately at risk of not getting a college education because of parents refusing to pay due to my gender identity.


Try counter-blackmail?
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