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Postby Grenartia » Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:52 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:I just found out that 1/5 trans people get assaulted with weapon in Australia. Guess I have to learn a martial art then.


I only vaguely remember the Taekwondo lessons I got in middle school.

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United Marxist Nations wrote:If it is an assault with a weapon, you'd be better off running away or carrying a weapon yourself, there's hardly any use trying to fight someone armed when you're not.


I for one am getting a Concealed Carry permit.


I probably won't. Makes suicide too easy. If, God forbid, I ever go down that road again, I don't want it to be easy to make that mistake. I want it to be as hard as possible. As for self-defense, I keep at least one knife on me at all times (usually a multitool). Mechanical pencils with metal tips are also good, as are metal compasses. Pepper spray is shit, I've taken sprays directly to the eyes with no ill effect. I am interested in owning a stun gun, though.

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Socialist Tera wrote:Weapon laws in Australia make it tough to carry a weapon. I would have to conceal a switchblade, even then if it is for weapons purposes I might be jailed for it.

Then carry something like an umbrella or mace, because seriously, something like martial arts isn't going to cut it against a guy with a knife, especially for a girl. It would not be advisable to stand and fight.


I only ever carry my umbrella when its going to rain, simply because it's awkward as hell to carry around, especially given all the stuff I normally carry around on a daily basis. I wouldn't carry mace for the same reason I distrust pepper spray. Personally, I would advise keeping your keys on you, and using them as a makeshift weapon if need be. Another thing I always carry on me is a towel. It can be very effective if you're quick thinking and good at improvising weapons.

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Umbrella?
Poke them to death?

Australian weapon laws suck. It sucks being able to not defend yourself against raving lunatics with weapons.


Then go with easily improvised weapons with legitimate non-weapon uses. Metal pens and pencils. A towel. Your keys. Etc.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:14 am

I do always carry pens on me, at least. I also carry a cloth fan with a bamboo frame, which wouldn't be very effective to hit someone with, but a sharp jab to the abdomen would probably hurt. I suppose that now that I live on the West Coast again, where it rains a lot, it would make sense to start carrying around my umbrella all the time; I have a telescopic one that fits in my bag (although it needs to be replaced, since one of the arms is broken). The towel is a good idea, since I suppose it could be used to flick someone, to restrain them, or to choke them. I also guess that, since I carry a shoulder bag with me all the time, I could hit someone with it (it gets pretty heavy sometimes) and choke them with the strap.

I do need to build up my keyring again. I used to have about four keys on it, which could be sufficient as a weapon, but right now I only have two. I've been meaning to ask my dad if he has a spare set of car keys I could have, anyhow.

Oh! Speaking of my dad, the deadline I've set for myself to come out to him is a week from now. I'm kind of scared. I mean, I don't think he'd react super negatively, like kicking me out or hurting me or anything like that, but it's still so unpredictable. I need to write a letter to give to him, and then make sure he reads it while I'm not home so he has some time to think about it. My first day of work at my new job is the 24th, so maybe I'll give it to him then; but he usually works on the weekends too. Maybe I can make sure he reads it before he goes to work and just make sure I'm not around when he does. We'll see.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:18 am

Grenartia wrote:
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I for one am getting a Concealed Carry permit.


I probably won't. Makes suicide too easy. If, God forbid, I ever go down that road again, I don't want it to be easy to make that mistake. I want it to be as hard as possible. As for self-defense, I keep at least one knife on me at all times (usually a multitool). Mechanical pencils with metal tips are also good, as are metal compasses. Pepper spray is shit, I've taken sprays directly to the eyes with no ill effect. I am interested in owning a stun gun, though.


If you have thought of suicide before, it's probably smarter not to get a gun until it is several years behind you and you are sure you are really recovered. Too many people die that way.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:49 am

I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.
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Postby Aphryss » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:53 am

Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.

Ew, yeah, that's gross. Sadly, there is a stereotype that "trans woman = prostitute", because of course in the past being trans meant that nobody would hire you so you were forced into prostitution to make ends meet. And "shemales" are still a fetish thing online, to make things worse.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:59 am

Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.


If you don't want to get into sex work, then don't. I wouldn't do it either.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:59 am

Aphryss wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.

Ew, yeah, that's gross. Sadly, there is a stereotype that "trans woman = prostitute", because of course in the past being trans meant that nobody would hire you so you were forced into prostitution to make ends meet. And "shemales" are still a fetish thing online, to make things worse.

The term shemale disgusts me. This is what turned me off transiting for a long time. That along with my parents claiming it's a fetish. :eyebrow: I want to be a university teacher or a game designer.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:00 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.


If you don't want to get into sex work, then don't. I wouldn't do it either.

Just venting my frustration about my supposed friends.
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Postby Aphryss » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:03 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
Aphryss wrote:Ew, yeah, that's gross. Sadly, there is a stereotype that "trans woman = prostitute", because of course in the past being trans meant that nobody would hire you so you were forced into prostitution to make ends meet. And "shemales" are still a fetish thing online, to make things worse.

The term shemale disgusts me. This is what turned me off transiting for a long time. That along with my parents claiming it's a fetish. :eyebrow: I want to be a university teacher or a game designer.

Oh, agreed on "shemale" being grotesque. I'd never use it myself. "Trap" is worse, though, since it implies we're out to deceive men into having sex with them. Which is just ... ew. Not everything is about you, straight dudes.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:10 am

Aphryss wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:The term shemale disgusts me. This is what turned me off transiting for a long time. That along with my parents claiming it's a fetish. :eyebrow: I want to be a university teacher or a game designer.

Oh, agreed on "shemale" being grotesque. I'd never use it myself. "Trap" is worse, though, since it implies we're out to deceive men into having sex with them. Which is just ... ew. Not everything is about you, straight dudes.

People who fetish it on facebook is worse. There are weebs who fetish this shit. I am like what the hell. I also hate people who expect baby pictures on first date and would go to absurd lengths thinking I am there to decieve them like what the hell. If I got my appropriate gender at birth, they would think I am an extremely cute hyperactive emo girl... I wish I could experience high school as a girl it would be great
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Postby Aphryss » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:11 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
Aphryss wrote:Oh, agreed on "shemale" being grotesque. I'd never use it myself. "Trap" is worse, though, since it implies we're out to deceive men into having sex with them. Which is just ... ew. Not everything is about you, straight dudes.

People who fetish it on facebook is worse. There are weebs who fetish this shit. I am like what the hell. I also hate people who expect baby pictures on first date and would go to absurd lengths thinking I am there to decieve them like what the hell. If I got my appropriate gender at birth, they would think I am an extremely cute hyperactive emo girl... I wish I could experience high school as a girl it would be great

Ick. Yeah, trans chasers are creepy as hell.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:20 am

As a bit of a weeb, sometimes I feel uncomfortable hanging around other weebs who use terms like "trap". I mean, some trans and GNC people have reclaimed that term for themselves, and I think that's great, but personally, it makes me feel really uncomfortable.

I also can't stand the terms "shemale" and "he-she". Mostly because other kids started calling me by those words in Grade 3. "Homo" was another one.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:29 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:As a bit of a weeb, sometimes I feel uncomfortable hanging around other weebs who use terms like "trap". I mean, some trans and GNC people have reclaimed that term for themselves, and I think that's great, but personally, it makes me feel really uncomfortable.

I also can't stand the terms "shemale" and "he-she". Mostly because other kids started calling me by those words in Grade 3. "Homo" was another one.

I feel those trans girls are very open about being one. I mean I will try to hide that I am one. I will try not to have a bulge.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:30 am

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Socialist Tera wrote:Mace is illegal...


Umbrella?
Poke them to death?


Yes.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:36 am

I guess what I really want right now is just to figure out what I'm supposed to do next.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:40 am

Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.


Also probably illegal and/or dangerous depending on where you live.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:41 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
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If you don't want to get into sex work, then don't. I wouldn't do it either.

Just venting my frustration about my supposed friends.


Which you have every right to do, same as you have every right not to go into sex work.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:44 am

Philjia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I spoke to one of my friends who is not my friend anymore, he said I should become a prostitute to pay for transitioning. I don't want to get into sex work to pay for bills, it's degrading and unfitting of what I want to be.


Also probably illegal and/or dangerous depending on where you live.

I live in Australia so it is legal.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:34 am

Vassenor wrote:I guess what I really want right now is just to figure out what I'm supposed to do next.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again: perhaps you should ask your GP about medication for anxiety, since that's clearly a very big problem for you. It's at least worth a shot.
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Nature-Spirits wrote:
Vassenor wrote:I guess what I really want right now is just to figure out what I'm supposed to do next.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again: perhaps you should ask your GP about medication for anxiety, since that's clearly a very big problem for you. It's at least worth a shot.


Problem is that requires getting re-referred since I've technically been discharged from the service after I finished the support sessions.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:44 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I've said it before, but I'll say it again: perhaps you should ask your GP about medication for anxiety, since that's clearly a very big problem for you. It's at least worth a shot.


Problem is that requires getting re-referred since I've technically been discharged from the service after I finished the support sessions.

That sucks, I am on anti-depressants. I hope it will change when I transition.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:46 am

Vassenor wrote:I guess what I really want right now is just to figure out what I'm supposed to do next.


As NatSpi said, anxiety treatment. You won't be able to do anything until you have that under control. So, make the call and get the appointment. The sooner you do it, the sooner you can start transitioning.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I've said it before, but I'll say it again: perhaps you should ask your GP about medication for anxiety, since that's clearly a very big problem for you. It's at least worth a shot.


Problem is that requires getting re-referred since I've technically been discharged from the service after I finished the support sessions.


So get rereferred. You can't do anything in this state, can you?
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:27 am

Grenartia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I just found out that 1/5 trans people get assaulted with weapon in Australia. Guess I have to learn a martial art then.


I only vaguely remember the Taekwondo lessons I got in middle school.

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I for one am getting a Concealed Carry permit.


I probably won't. Makes suicide too easy. If, God forbid, I ever go down that road again, I don't want it to be easy to make that mistake. I want it to be as hard as possible. As for self-defense, I keep at least one knife on me at all times (usually a multitool). Mechanical pencils with metal tips are also good, as are metal compasses. Pepper spray is shit, I've taken sprays directly to the eyes with no ill effect. I am interested in owning a stun gun, though.

United Marxist Nations wrote:Then carry something like an umbrella or mace, because seriously, something like martial arts isn't going to cut it against a guy with a knife, especially for a girl. It would not be advisable to stand and fight.


I only ever carry my umbrella when its going to rain, simply because it's awkward as hell to carry around, especially given all the stuff I normally carry around on a daily basis. I wouldn't carry mace for the same reason I distrust pepper spray. Personally, I would advise keeping your keys on you, and using them as a makeshift weapon if need be. Another thing I always carry on me is a towel. It can be very effective if you're quick thinking and good at improvising weapons.

Socialist Tera wrote:Australian weapon laws suck. It sucks being able to not defend yourself against raving lunatics with weapons.


Then go with easily improvised weapons with legitimate non-weapon uses. Metal pens and pencils. A towel. Your keys. Etc.


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