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Postby Philjia » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:54 am

Grenartia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I got referred to the gender clinic, then I can get referred to a psychiatrist. I will start laser soon. Planning to get rid of all facial hair plus get my eyebrows right. After 6 months-1 year of HRT this will be my new haircut: (Image)


Yay! What about the dye job?

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Hey there Transgender Thread, I've come to inform you that RIG was DEAT'd for trolling, again.


Shit.


She's off the rails. Perhaps understandably so, but off them nonetheless.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:55 am

Grenartia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I got referred to the gender clinic, then I can get referred to a psychiatrist. I will start laser soon. Planning to get rid of all facial hair plus get my eyebrows right. After 6 months-1 year of HRT this will be my new haircut: (Image)


Yay! What about the dye job?

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Hey there Transgender Thread, I've come to inform you that RIG was DEAT'd for trolling, again.


Shit.


Ultra-Shit.

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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:17 pm

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Grenartia wrote:
Yay! What about the dye job?



Shit.


Ultra-Shit.


Ultra-triple-mega-uber-super-dooper-giga-shit.
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Postby Veceria » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:21 pm

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FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Ultra-Shit.


Ultra-triple-mega-uber-super-dooper-giga-shit.

Oh good, you're back.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:47 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I got referred to the gender clinic, then I can get referred to a psychiatrist. I will start laser soon. Planning to get rid of all facial hair plus get my eyebrows right. After 6 months-1 year of HRT this will be my new haircut: (Image)


Yay! What about the dye job?

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Hey there Transgender Thread, I've come to inform you that RIG was DEAT'd for trolling, again.


Shit.

I own dyes of similar colours. Is it bad that when I transition I want to go for a more cute look like a punk/emo look than an average look? It's always what I envisioned myself to be.
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Postby Philjia » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:55 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Yay! What about the dye job?



Shit.

I own dyes of similar colours. Is it bad that when I transition I want to go for a more cute look like a punk/emo look than an average look? It's always what I envisioned myself to be.


Why compromise on vision? It's your body, after all.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:19 pm

Philjia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I own dyes of similar colours. Is it bad that when I transition I want to go for a more cute look like a punk/emo look than an average look? It's always what I envisioned myself to be.


Why compromise on vision? It's your body, after all.


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Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:27 pm

Philjia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I own dyes of similar colours. Is it bad that when I transition I want to go for a more cute look like a punk/emo look than an average look? It's always what I envisioned myself to be.


Why compromise on vision? It's your body, after all.

I am afraid of it being seen as some kind of weird sexual thing when it's not. One thing I find annoying, I search out of curiosity for women's panties on eBay. I find normal ones and so many sexualised ones. Like crotchless ones or other ones, I am thinking who wears that...
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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:48 pm

Philjia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I own dyes of similar colours. Is it bad that when I transition I want to go for a more cute look like a punk/emo look than an average look? It's always what I envisioned myself to be.


Why compromise on vision? It's your body, after all.


This. 100% this. Once I'm out I'm gonna be me. No compromises.
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Postby Aphryss » Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:59 pm

Veceria wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Ultra-triple-mega-uber-super-dooper-giga-shit.

Oh good, you're back.

Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired. To be silent is to be false to who you are, sure, but there are more productive ways to effect change. Sign petitions, write to politicians, get your opinions heard by people whose opinions matter. Sure, you might not change their minds either, but they're higher-value targets than random alt-reichers who've leaked out of /pol/ onto the real internet.

Also, at this point you've gotta know the mods are watching you like hawks, circling overhead, waiting to strike. The warnings and bans and deletions and things aren't just thunderbolts hurled at random from on high, they're because of stuff you do. So I really don't understand why you keep giving them ammunition, what you get out of antagonizing the right-wingers. Your time is surely too valuable to waste it picking fights with bigots!
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:01 pm

Aphryss wrote:
Veceria wrote:Oh good, you're back.

Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired. To be silent is to be false to who you are, sure, but there are more productive ways to effect change. Sign petitions, write to politicians, get your opinions heard by people whose opinions matter. Sure, you might not change their minds either, but they're higher-value targets than random alt-reichers who've leaked out of /pol/ onto the real internet.

Also, at this point you've gotta know the mods are watching you like hawks, circling overhead, waiting to strike. The warnings and bans and deletions and things aren't just thunderbolts hurled at random from on high, they're because of stuff you do. So I really don't understand why you keep giving them ammunition, what you get out of antagonizing the right-wingers. Your time is surely too valuable to waste it picking fights with bigots!

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:03 pm

Aphryss wrote:
Veceria wrote:Oh good, you're back.

Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired. To be silent is to be false to who you are, sure, but there are more productive ways to effect change. Sign petitions, write to politicians, get your opinions heard by people whose opinions matter. Sure, you might not change their minds either, but they're higher-value targets than random alt-reichers who've leaked out of /pol/ onto the real internet.

Also, at this point you've gotta know the mods are watching you like hawks, circling overhead, waiting to strike. The warnings and bans and deletions and things aren't just thunderbolts hurled at random from on high, they're because of stuff you do. So I really don't understand why you keep giving them ammunition, what you get out of antagonizing the right-wingers. Your time is surely too valuable to waste it picking fights with bigots!


I leaked out of /pol/......

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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:04 pm

Aphryss wrote:Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired.


I think the mistake your making is that you think I'm actually trying to change anyones mind.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:05 pm

Aphryss wrote:
Veceria wrote:Oh good, you're back.

Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired. To be silent is to be false to who you are, sure, but there are more productive ways to effect change. Sign petitions, write to politicians, get your opinions heard by people whose opinions matter. Sure, you might not change their minds either, but they're higher-value targets than random alt-reichers who've leaked out of /pol/ onto the real internet.

Also, at this point you've gotta know the mods are watching you like hawks, circling overhead, waiting to strike. The warnings and bans and deletions and things aren't just thunderbolts hurled at random from on high, they're because of stuff you do. So I really don't understand why you keep giving them ammunition, what you get out of antagonizing the right-wingers. Your time is surely too valuable to waste it picking fights with bigots!

I didn't leak out of /pol/!

I will now return to monitoring the thread. Like the UN, meaning I don't intervene, just monitor.
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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:10 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Aphryss wrote:Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired. To be silent is to be false to who you are, sure, but there are more productive ways to effect change. Sign petitions, write to politicians, get your opinions heard by people whose opinions matter. Sure, you might not change their minds either, but they're higher-value targets than random alt-reichers who've leaked out of /pol/ onto the real internet.

Also, at this point you've gotta know the mods are watching you like hawks, circling overhead, waiting to strike. The warnings and bans and deletions and things aren't just thunderbolts hurled at random from on high, they're because of stuff you do. So I really don't understand why you keep giving them ammunition, what you get out of antagonizing the right-wingers. Your time is surely too valuable to waste it picking fights with bigots!

I didn't leak out of /pol/!

I will now return to monitoring the thread. Like the UN, meaning I don't intervene, just monitor.


Ok seriously if you aren't gonna post here then why the fuck are ya gonna lurk? We all already know your whole "you psychos are mutilating yourselves n' shit" schtick. What could ya possibly want from spying on us?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:12 pm

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I didn't leak out of /pol/!

I will now return to monitoring the thread. Like the UN, meaning I don't intervene, just monitor.


Ok seriously if you aren't gonna post here then why the fuck are ya gonna lurk? We all already know your whole "you psychos are mutilating yourselves n' shit" schtick. What could ya possibly want from spying on us?


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Postby Linux and the X » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:13 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:I will now return to monitoring the thread. Like the UN, meaning I don't intervene, just monitor.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:14 pm

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Aphryss wrote:Real talk, though; I don't understand why you keep picking fights with the conservatives. You've gotta know you're not going to change their minds, right? They're wrong, sure, but the world has enough wrong people in it that - even if by some miracle you change one person's mind in an internet message board - there are still millions out there, and if you try to argue them into changing their minds you'll only die tired.


I think the mistake your making is that you think I'm actually trying to change anyones mind.

Then what are you trying to do? You aren't getting deated for nothing.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:21 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I will now return to monitoring the thread. Like the UN, meaning I don't intervene, just monitor.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Been monitoring the thread for two months, check the only posts I've made here, and you will see that I have only posted when I or people linked to me have been insulted.
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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:25 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Ok seriously if you aren't gonna post here then why the fuck are ya gonna lurk? We all already know your whole "you psychos are mutilating yourselves n' shit" schtick. What could ya possibly want from spying on us?


Intelligence concerning your group; readying for the right moment to attack.


No worries. I'm ready.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:29 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Ok seriously if you aren't gonna post here then why the fuck are ya gonna lurk? We all already know your whole "you psychos are mutilating yourselves n' shit" schtick. What could ya possibly want from spying on us?


Intelligence concerning your group; readying for the right moment to attack.

No, I'm here because a few months ago, Noraika and I had a very enlightening discussion on the issue of the transgender phenomenon, I noticed they post here, so I decided to lurk here to learn more about the people here, because I believe in humanizing people I disagree with. Now let's please move on.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:30 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Intelligence concerning your group; readying for the right moment to attack.

No, I'm here because a few months ago, Noraika and I had a very enlightening discussion on the issue of the transgender phenomenon, I noticed they post here, so I decided to lurk here to learn more about the people here, because I believe in humanizing people I disagree with. Now let's please move on.


You're getting a bit too defensive over a joke.

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Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:34 pm

I just found out that 1/5 trans people get assaulted with weapon in Australia. Guess I have to learn a martial art then.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:I just found out that 1/5 trans people get assaulted with weapon in Australia. Guess I have to learn a martial art then.

If it is an assault with a weapon, you'd be better off running away or carrying a weapon yourself, there's hardly any use trying to fight someone armed when you're not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFuN9Vb2Gos
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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:37 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I just found out that 1/5 trans people get assaulted with weapon in Australia. Guess I have to learn a martial art then.

If it is an assault with a weapon, you'd be better off running away or carrying a weapon yourself, there's hardly any use trying to fight someone armed when you're not.


I for one am getting a Concealed Carry permit.
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