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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:18 pm

Vorond wrote:
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Ask away.


Right. Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue about the correct terminology here, so please be patient if I get something wrong there.

So I was coming from the debate over segregated bathrooms (aligned to biological sex): my question there was: the transpeople after all *are* men or women after the trans-part happens, so why not go to the appropriate bathroom and be done with it? Apparently I was wrong there, or so I was informed, and after asking for explanation I was sent here. Question is: WTF was that person talking about?

There's transsexuals (post-op binary transgender people) and then there's the wider window of transgender. If I'm presenting as female, I expect to be treated as such in society.

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I don't really care too much about breasts when I transition, but I suppose it wouldn't be too bad to have some decent size mammaries.


Am I the only one here that actually wants to have something on my chest???

I want something, but D is about as far as I'd go. Any bigger and I'll in pain given my active life of work.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:19 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Vorond wrote:I want something, but D is about as far as I'd go. Any bigger and I'll in pain given my active life of work.


C or D is about where I want to be. (Hey that rhymes :P )
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:30 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
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C or D is about where I want to be. (Hey that rhymes :P )

For me, it's the only size where my frame would look proportionally feminine without causing pain given how much I move around.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:44 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
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I don't really care too much about breasts when I transition, but I suppose it wouldn't be too bad to have some decent size mammaries.


Am I the only one here that actually wants to have something on my chest???

Go big or go home 8)
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:46 pm

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:46 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Am I the only one here that actually wants to have something on my chest???

Go big or go home 8)


:rofl:
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:48 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Go big or go home 8)


:rofl:
^^^Yes. This. This exactly.^^^

I would ike large breasts, but they'd look daft with my frame.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:51 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
:rofl:
^^^Yes. This. This exactly.^^^

I would ike large breasts, but they'd look daft with my frame.


Personally, I think I'd look daft if I didn't have large breasts. But thats my opinion, no one's ever judged :P
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:52 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
:rofl:
^^^Yes. This. This exactly.^^^

I would ike large breasts, but they'd look daft with my frame.

It takes less volume to achieve the same level of breast sticking out (hence a 32 DD has less mass and overall volume than a 42 C). Cup size is determined by how far they stick out.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:54 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I would ike large breasts, but they'd look daft with my frame.

It takes less volume to achieve the same level of breast sticking out (hence a 32 DD has less mass and overall volume than a 42 C). Cup size is determined by how far they stick out.


I actually knew that.... I just never measured my band size because I'm lazy :P
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:55 pm

im now vaguely annoyed that dumb ideologies has bigger breasts than me and now i feel like an anime stereotype
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:57 pm

Alyakia wrote:im now vaguely annoyed that dumb ideologies has bigger breasts than me and now i feel like an anime stereotype

Wait, you're a girl?
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:58 pm

Alyakia wrote:im now vaguely annoyed that dumb ideologies has bigger breasts than me and now i feel like an anime stereotype


>.<
At least you have breasts. I still need to "grow a pair."
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:03 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Alyakia wrote:im now vaguely annoyed that dumb ideologies has bigger breasts than me and now i feel like an anime stereotype


>.<
At least you have breasts. I still need to "grow a pair."


i actually don't, which is why i can say things like that with 100% confidence

Val Halla wrote:
Alyakia wrote:im now vaguely annoyed that dumb ideologies has bigger breasts than me and now i feel like an anime stereotype

Wait, you're a girl?


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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:06 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
>.<
At least you have breasts. I still need to "grow a pair."


i actually don't, which is why i can say things like that with 100% confidence

Val Halla wrote:Wait, you're a girl?


i am aware that my manly flag sometimes misleads people


XD
Such a manly flag....

I think its more the "no real women on the internet" thing.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:11 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:It takes less volume to achieve the same level of breast sticking out (hence a 32 DD has less mass and overall volume than a 42 C). Cup size is determined by how far they stick out.


I actually knew that.... I just never measured my band size because I'm lazy :P

And I know mine currently sits around 42"... How do I know? I borrowed one of my mom's old bras. It behaves how a properly fitting band would.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:14 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
I actually knew that.... I just never measured my band size because I'm lazy :P

And I know mine currently sits around 42"... How do I know? I borrowed one of my mom's old bras. It behaves how a properly fitting band would.


[EDITED OUT STUPID QUESTION]

I'm not in the business of stealing my mother's bras.... don't wanna risk it.
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Postby Vorond » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:42 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Vorond wrote:
Right. Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue about the correct terminology here, so please be patient if I get something wrong there.

So I was coming from the debate over segregated bathrooms (aligned to biological sex): my question there was: the transpeople after all *are* men or women after the trans-part happens, so why not go to the appropriate bathroom and be done with it? Apparently I was wrong there, or so I was informed, and after asking for explanation I was sent here. Question is: WTF was that person talking about?

There's transsexuals (post-op binary transgender people) and then there's the wider window of transgender. If I'm presenting as female, I expect to be treated as such in society.


Fine, actually my point exactly: then you can go to the female bloody bathroom, right? :(
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:44 pm

Vorond wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:There's transsexuals (post-op binary transgender people) and then there's the wider window of transgender. If I'm presenting as female, I expect to be treated as such in society.


Fine, actually my point exactly: then you can go to the female bloody bathroom, right? :(


You can only go to the female bloody bathroom when it is ones time of the month.

Otherwise, the normal female bathroom would do :unsure:
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:05 pm

Celseon wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I'm still searching for good video tutorials on bra wearing. Haven't found anything good yet. Will update when I do find something that looks useful.

Something I read about last night, and saw a few trans women say is that, for those of you commencing certain portions of your transition, wearing a training bra is an excellent exercise which will help you for when you start developing breasts. Test what feel more comfortable and all.

My 2 cents, however, are that you get the training bras that have the clasp in front. See how those feel. There are full on bras that clasp in front, in case you prefer those. You can then transition or alternate with bras that clasp in the back. These, of course, are just my personal suggestions. You will go for what feels better for you.

Also, if any of you ladies (and gender fluid) have a question regarding underwear, feel free to fire me a TG. I mean, what are we girls here for, right? :)


I don't really see the point of front clasps myself. All you have to do to make back clasps easy is hold the bra so the back clasp is in the front and the whole thing is already around your midriff, clasp it, rotate the bra around so the cups are now in front, put your arms through the shoulder loops, and work everything into place in the cups (whether it's you or forms). Making sure you're properly sized is the tricky part, and that can be dealt with by getting measured. If you don't want to deal with clasps at all at the beginning you could wear sports bras until you get clasps figured out.


What these transgender women are saying, and I agree, is the whole ''getting used to the garment''. Some people do have a bit of a tricky time doing the back clasps. Hence why I suggested that. In any case, it is a matter of preference.
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Postby Mirakai » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:07 pm

I just came out to my dad.

He was accepting towards me

I'm so happy...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:09 pm

Ok, I found video by a transwoman and Youtuber, Ri Ri Fox, that tackles bra measuring. Please, ignore the snake she's holding. It's a bit distracting. :p
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:10 pm

Mirakai wrote:I just came out to my dad.

He was accepting towards me

I'm so happy...

Lucky...
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:13 pm

I've never had issues with rear-clasp bras.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:16 pm

Vassenor wrote:I've never had issues with rear-clasp bras.


Seems that some do. *shrug* I see the logic, honestly. Which is why I agree with these Youtubers, but it is a matter of personal preference.
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