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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:24 am

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Val Halla wrote:They are more revealing

Ah, too revealing for your tastes.

Not too revealing. Just impractical for most of the time.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:27 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Ah, too revealing for your tastes.

Not too revealing. Just impractical for most of the time.

Ah, that makes sense. There's a lot more practical underwear.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:35 am

OK, so the last part of my Mercury Cosplay has reached the "shipped, awaiting tracking number" stage.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:36 am

Vassenor wrote:OK, so the last part of my Mercury Cosplay has reached the "shipped, awaiting tracking number" stage.

I think we should do it together tbh
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:47 am

Val Halla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:OK, so the last part of my Mercury Cosplay has reached the "shipped, awaiting tracking number" stage.

I think we should do it together tbh


?
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:50 am

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Val Halla wrote:I think we should do it together tbh


?

Sailor Scouts :P
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:06 am

Val Halla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
?

Sailor Scouts :P


Ah.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:22 am

Can I be tuxedo mask?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:27 am

Vassenor wrote:OK, so the last part of my Mercury Cosplay has reached the "shipped, awaiting tracking number" stage.

This might be the most awesome thing. I'm afraid of being a giant magical girl if I did cosplay.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:31 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:OK, so the last part of my Mercury Cosplay has reached the "shipped, awaiting tracking number" stage.

This might be the most awesome thing. I'm afraid of being a giant magical girl if I did cosplay.

So be one of the gas giants. Isn't Neptune supposed to be a big girl?
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Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:32 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:This might be the most awesome thing. I'm afraid of being a giant magical girl if I did cosplay.

So be one of the gas giants. Isn't Neptune supposed to be a big girl?


Jupiter's the tall one.

With the fan theory going around that she's actually a transgirl too.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:33 am

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The Alexanderians wrote:So be one of the gas giants. Isn't Neptune supposed to be a big girl?


Jupiter's the tall one.

With the fan theory going around that she's actually a transgirl too.

IIRC Uranus, in the original was in a relationship with Neptune, but it was cut out overseas.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:36 am

Val Halla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Jupiter's the tall one.

With the fan theory going around that she's actually a transgirl too.

IIRC Uranus, in the original was in a relationship with Neptune, but it was cut out overseas.

I think they made them cousins in the dub. Really didn't they nuke all relationships except MoonxMask?
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:37 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Val Halla wrote:IIRC Uranus, in the original was in a relationship with Neptune, but it was cut out overseas.

I think they made them cousins in the dub. Really didn't they nuke all relationships except MoonxMask?


Yeah, Uranus / Neptune was changed from Lesbians to Cousins. Without bothering to get rid of the subtext.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:39 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Val Halla wrote:IIRC Uranus, in the original was in a relationship with Neptune, but it was cut out overseas.

I think they made them cousins in the dub. Really didn't they nuke all relationships except MoonxMask?

Bullshit American attitudes did it. Oh, it's OK to sexualise 14 year old girls and keep that.But same sex relationships, oh no
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:40 am

Mercury and are my favorites though
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:42 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I think they made them cousins in the dub. Really didn't they nuke all relationships except MoonxMask?

Bullshit American attitudes did it. Oh, it's OK to sexualise 14 year old girls and keep that.But same sex relationships, oh no

Oh I'm not implying that was the reason. Calm down. It was certainly attitudes towards LGBT. I'm saying one way or another I think MoonxMask were the only ones left standing.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:44 am

The Alexanderians wrote:Mercury and are my favorites though


And?
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:45 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Bullshit American attitudes did it. Oh, it's OK to sexualise 14 year old girls and keep that.But same sex relationships, oh no

Oh I'm not implying that was the reason. Calm down. It was certainly attitudes towards LGBT. I'm saying one way or another I think MoonxMask were the only ones left standing.

This was what America was like when it came out. Neptune/Uranus had an actual relationship, but it as cut out because of America's silly attitudes back then.

ps I would rather cosplay Miku than a sailor scout
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I think they made them cousins in the dub. Really didn't they nuke all relationships except MoonxMask?


Yeah, Uranus / Neptune was changed from Lesbians to Cousins. Without bothering to get rid of the subtext.

Which if you look at it from a conservative stand point makes things worse. "Let's take these girls in a relationship and make them girl cousins in a intimate-like relationship! What could possibly go wrong!?"
Really as a kid I would have been less weirded out by two girls dating (might have even gotten me started on the whole LGBT earlier) than by cousins having homo- erotic (unless there is a better word?) subtexts.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Mercury and are my favorites though


And?

sorry Mars
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:47 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Oh I'm not implying that was the reason. Calm down. It was certainly attitudes towards LGBT. I'm saying one way or another I think MoonxMask were the only ones left standing.

This was what America was like when it came out. Neptune/Uranus had an actual relationship, but it as cut out because of America's silly attitudes back then.

ps I would rather cosplay Miku than a sailor scout

No wait I lied, the cat had one in a movie with a professor I think.
EDIT: she was human for it though...most of it
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Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:48 am

While I don't watch the show, Degrassi had an episode (My Body is a Cage) revolving around a FtM transgender boy named Adam having to deal with real, actual issues that a lot of trans people face.

"Pronoun problems? Still mom?" :lol:

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Postby The Alexanderians » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:50 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:While I don't watch the show, Degrassi had an episode (My Body is a Cage) revolving around a FtM transgender boy named Adam having to deal with real, actual issues that a lot of trans people face.

"Pronoun problems? Still mom?" :lol:

Yeah I saw that on tvtropes even had an episode where he tried to detransition before burning all his remaining female clothing. Good episode when most people shrugged it off as an issue in real life. Makes me think Degrassi is worth a watch.
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Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Val Halla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:50 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:While I don't watch the show, Degrassi had an episode (My Body is a Cage) revolving around a FtM transgender boy named Adam having to deal with real, actual issues that a lot of trans people face.

"Pronoun problems? Still mom?" :lol:

Am I missing something here>
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