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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:19 pm

I just don't understand why so many things for women are made of sheer fabrics. I kind of want to keep certain things hidden.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:28 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I was thinking the blood.


I've literally never had that problem. I've only cut myself once while shaving anywhere, and that was on my face, when I was dry shaving.

My rqazor sucks though
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:09 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:This. If you have a lot of hair, don't try to scrape it all off at once. Do it gradually, even if it takes an hour (you can do it in multiple segments if need be). Once you start to do it regularly, it's only a matter of shaving off the short hairs as they grow, like any other place you might shave. And yes, chances are you may cut yourself a few times, but it shouldn't hurt that much -- it's like a papercut. And if you have a million cuts, you're doing it wrong.


Maybe some hair removal cream could help, at least in taking off some of the bulk.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:14 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:This. If you have a lot of hair, don't try to scrape it all off at once. Do it gradually, even if it takes an hour (you can do it in multiple segments if need be). Once you start to do it regularly, it's only a matter of shaving off the short hairs as they grow, like any other place you might shave. And yes, chances are you may cut yourself a few times, but it shouldn't hurt that much -- it's like a papercut. And if you have a million cuts, you're doing it wrong.


Maybe some hair removal cream could help, at least in taking off some of the bulk.

I don't have any
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:17 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Maybe some hair removal cream could help, at least in taking off some of the bulk.

I don't have any


Well, you can probably get some at some point.

If you can't, then clean your legs with soap and warm water. And like Gren said, just go by in sections. Try to shave up to your knees one day, try shaving your thighs the next. The first time around we shave, may take more than one try.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I don't have any


Well, you can probably get some at some point.

If you can't, then clean your legs with soap and warm water. And like Gren said, just go by in sections. Try to shave up to your knees one day, try shaving your thighs the next. The first time around we shave, may take more than one try.

I know I took it in sections the first time where I went to the line of my shorts a little above the knee and then later the same day went further up.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:55 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Well, you can probably get some at some point.

If you can't, then clean your legs with soap and warm water. And like Gren said, just go by in sections. Try to shave up to your knees one day, try shaving your thighs the next. The first time around we shave, may take more than one try.

I know I took it in sections the first time where I went to the line of my shorts a little above the knee and then later the same day went further up.


Yeah, that's not an uncommon thing to do, especially if it's your first time/times shaving.
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Postby Dyrrachium » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:02 pm

Everyone seems to have problems with leg shaving...

is it weird that I use a men's facial razor to dry shave my legs?

I have a lot of hair normally and it just comes off if I go up then down?

I get prickly legs though and it stings for a few weeks.

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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:07 pm

Dyrrachium wrote:Everyone seems to have problems with leg shaving...

is it weird that I use a men's facial razor to dry shave my legs?

I have a lot of hair normally and it just comes off if I go up then down?

I get prickly legs though and it stings for a few weeks.

That's what I do
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:11 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I know I took it in sections the first time where I went to the line of my shorts a little above the knee and then later the same day went further up.


Yeah, that's not an uncommon thing to do, especially if it's your first time/times shaving.

The hair growth rate also differs in different sections or so I've noticed.

Dyrrachium wrote:Everyone seems to have problems with leg shaving...

is it weird that I use a men's facial razor to dry shave my legs?

I have a lot of hair normally and it just comes off if I go up then down?

I get prickly legs though and it stings for a few weeks.

No, I use a men's facial razor to cut swaths of the leg hair and that's how I do it. But my legs never really feel prickly or stinging for more than a couple days.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:17 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yeah, that's not an uncommon thing to do, especially if it's your first time/times shaving.

The hair growth rate also differs in different sections or so I've noticed.

Dyrrachium wrote:Everyone seems to have problems with leg shaving...

is it weird that I use a men's facial razor to dry shave my legs?

I have a lot of hair normally and it just comes off if I go up then down?

I get prickly legs though and it stings for a few weeks.

No, I use a men's facial razor to cut swaths of the leg hair and that's how I do it. But my legs never really feel prickly or stinging for more than a couple days.

If they do might I suggest an electric one before using a regular one?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:20 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yeah, that's not an uncommon thing to do, especially if it's your first time/times shaving.

The hair growth rate also differs in different sections or so I've noticed.

Dyrrachium wrote:Everyone seems to have problems with leg shaving...

is it weird that I use a men's facial razor to dry shave my legs?

I have a lot of hair normally and it just comes off if I go up then down?

I get prickly legs though and it stings for a few weeks.

No, I use a men's facial razor to cut swaths of the leg hair and that's how I do it. But my legs never really feel prickly or stinging for more than a couple days.


Yup. Hair growth is also dependent on how much hair the person has to begin with. One thing that I've noticed is that the more you shave, and the longer you do it, does affect hair appearance and even slows down growth.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:22 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The hair growth rate also differs in different sections or so I've noticed.


No, I use a men's facial razor to cut swaths of the leg hair and that's how I do it. But my legs never really feel prickly or stinging for more than a couple days.

If they do might I suggest an electric one before using a regular one?

I use the electric myself.

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The Serbian Empire wrote:The hair growth rate also differs in different sections or so I've noticed.


No, I use a men's facial razor to cut swaths of the leg hair and that's how I do it. But my legs never really feel prickly or stinging for more than a couple days.


Yup. Hair growth is also dependent on how much hair the person has to begin with. One thing that I've noticed is that the more you shave, and the longer you do it, does affect hair appearance and even slows down growth.

Hair on my upper thigh seems to grow faster than on my chest or ankles for some reason.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:45 pm

I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:48 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I hesitate to do that, since I've asked before and got my head bitten off. If it was a one time thing I'd shrug it off but it's happened more then once. I'm not sure how to proceed about it anymore.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:51 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I hesitate to do that, since I've asked before and got my head bitten off. If it was a one time thing I'd shrug it off but it's happened more then once. I'm not sure how to proceed about it anymore.


Well, I ask because I'm not sure how to proceed myself. I want to be more proactive as a trans ally.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:28 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

Some will alert you to what they want. I'm pretty vocal about my desires for example.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:28 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

Some will alert you to what they want. I'm pretty vocal about my desires for example.


So in essence, play it by ear.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:29 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I honestly don't know. I feel like I'm living a double life right now, part as Jack and part as Shannon. Neither makes me totally uncomfortable but I do like being Shannon a heck of a lot more than Jack.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I would just ask if you're not sure. You don't necessarily have to ask every person you meet.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:I hesitate to do that, since I've asked before and got my head bitten off. If it was a one time thing I'd shrug it off but it's happened more then once. I'm not sure how to proceed about it anymore.


Well, I ask because I'm not sure how to proceed myself. I want to be more proactive as a trans ally.

I suspect I'm seen as the "outsider" so my presence is tolerated at best in the college's help group.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:32 pm

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:32 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I would just ask if you're not sure. You don't necessarily have to ask every person you meet.


Ok, that seems like a good way to proceed.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:51 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have a few questions. I was reading the article about trans allies last night and in it, one thing that was advised was that if you're not sure if the person you're addressing prefers gendered pronouns or gender neutral, that we should ask. That we shouldn't be afraid to ask, nor take it wrong if we're corrected because, after all, we're not transgender ourselves.

When it comes to pronouns, is it advisable to always ask or are there situations in which we shouldn't, or should we wait for the person to identify themselves? Or is this something that needs to be played by ear?

I hesitate to do that, since I've asked before and got my head bitten off. If it was a one time thing I'd shrug it off but it's happened more then once. I'm not sure how to proceed about it anymore.


Well, I'm just she. But I think I make that pretty obvious :P
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:54 pm

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The Alexanderians wrote:I hesitate to do that, since I've asked before and got my head bitten off. If it was a one time thing I'd shrug it off but it's happened more then once. I'm not sure how to proceed about it anymore.


Well, I'm just she. But I think I make that pretty obvious :P

And no head biting was to be had on that day I asked! :lol:
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