Playboy To Drop Nude Pictorials In Magazine Overhaul

[Alvecia]

I concur on the topic of creationists.
I think we may be starting with differing definitions of the word feminist

Well if you want to take it to the feminism thread and give your definition i'd be happy to outline my reasons for this position.

Honestly, not really.
It seems like a lot of effort and I suspect that we'd end up agreeing anyway.

[Ostroeuropa]

The west is the sole reason for the objectification of women and the mouthpiece of this is the playboy magasin

Are we to take your word for this, or can you explain why depictions of naked people performing sex acts from other cultures do not contribute to the objectification of women?

I can field this one, i've dealt with these types before.

Because capitalist patriarchy wasn't involved in their production, commodification, and distribution. You see, those other ones are women freely expressing their sexuality.
But western society is imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, and hierarchical. As such, when they do it, it's bad and fundamentally oppressive, because western society is fundamentally oppressive due to its structure being imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, etc.
Or whatever.

It's just the intersection of SJW racism with SJW sexism that causes them to say this shit. The rationalizations vary, but the facts never do.

[The Archregimancy]

Are we to take your word for this, or can you explain why depictions of naked people performing sex acts from other cultures do not contribute to the objectification of women?

I can field this one, i've dealt with these types before.

Because capitalist patriarchy wasn't involved in their production, commodification, and distribution. You see, those other ones are women freely expressing their sexuality.
But western society is imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, and hierarchical. As such, when they do it, it's bad and fundamentally oppressive, because western society is fundamentally oppressive due to its structure being imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, etc.

You're very likely overthinking Naushantiya's approach here, which can probably be summed up as:

"Western culture is bad (and British culture is very bad)"

"Anything associated with Western culture is the root of all bad things in India, thanks to the very bad British."

"Playboy is therefore bad because it's associated with Western culture; the Khajuraho Monuments are irrelevant because they were brought up by a notoriously and openly British moderator who was clearly trying to distract us from the evils of Western culture."

[Ifreann]

I can field this one, i've dealt with these types before.

Because capitalist patriarchy wasn't involved in their production, commodification, and distribution. You see, those other ones are women freely expressing their sexuality.
But western society is imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, and hierarchical. As such, when they do it, it's bad and fundamentally oppressive, because western society is fundamentally oppressive due to its structure being imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, etc.

You're very likely overthinking Naushantiya's approach here, which can probably be summed up as:

"Western culture is bad (and British culture is very bad)"

"Anything associated with Western culture is the root of all bad things in India, thanks to the very bad British."

"Playboy is therefore bad because it's associated with Western culture; the Khajuraho Monuments are irrelevant because they were brought up by a notoriously and openly British moderator who was clearly trying to distract us from the evils of Western culture."

You probably only know about the Khajuraho Monuments because you're planning to bulldoze them and build a Wetherspoons or a Nandos or something else suitably British. A vindaloo place.

[Ostroeuropa]

I can field this one, i've dealt with these types before.

Because capitalist patriarchy wasn't involved in their production, commodification, and distribution. You see, those other ones are women freely expressing their sexuality.
But western society is imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, and hierarchical. As such, when they do it, it's bad and fundamentally oppressive, because western society is fundamentally oppressive due to its structure being imperialist, colonialist, capitalist, etc.

You're very likely overthinking Naushantiya's approach here, which can probably be summed up as:

"Western culture is bad (and British culture is very bad)"

"Anything associated with Western culture is the root of all bad things in India, thanks to the very bad British."

"Playboy is therefore bad because it's associated with Western culture; the Khajuraho Monuments are irrelevant because they were brought up by a notoriously and openly British moderator who was clearly trying to distract us from the evils of Western culture."

Oh. It's manisdog? Oh. Then yeh i'm probably overthinking it.

[Ereria]

Why won't they start making porn? Like Reality Kings or Brazzers. They already have a brand name, they could reach the top pretty fast.

I imagine because that type of pornography doesn't fit their brand image.

Hefner's first-ever editor's letter claimed that Playboy was aimed at men who 'enjoy mixing up cocktails and an hors d’oeuvre or two, putting a little mood music on the phonograph and inviting in a female acquaintance for a quiet discussion on Picasso, Nietzsche, jazz, sex'.

Whether anyone contributing to this thread buys into that attempt to claim sophistication for a Playboy brand that was becoming increasingly frayed at the edges is another matter entirely, but - and I can't really speak from experience here - I don't imagine that your average video on Reality Kings or Brazzers involves a quiet discussion on Picasso, Nietzsche or jazz over a freshly mixed drink.

Dropping the nudes and keeping the articles is likely far more in keeping with what Hefner wants Playboy to be than hardcore pornography would be.

They gotta change their brand image then. What they decided decades ago doesn't matter now. If they don't change their ways, they are bound to go extinct. You have to adapt to the new marked and the only viable option I see for playboy is either start making porno, or maybe branch into a new marked, like clothing or whatever.

If they don't adapt soon enough, it won't be a shocker when in 10 years they go bankrupt. They can't let their personal feelings and what their vision was 50-100 years ago, dictate what they do today.

[Gauthier]

I thought manisdog was DoS.

[Czechanada]

I feel the need to say something, but I cannot quite imagine what it should be.

[Gauthier]

I feel the need to say something, but I cannot quite imagine what it should be.

That it's sad when porn is so commonplace that one of the pioneers in the field decide to drop nude pics altogether?

[Galloism]

I feel the need to say something, but I cannot quite imagine what it should be.

That it's sad when porn is so commonplace that one of the pioneers in the field decide to drop nude pics altogether?

Somehow, this must be feminism's fault.

[Czechanada]

I feel the need to say something, but I cannot quite imagine what it should be.

That it's sad when porn is so commonplace that one of the pioneers in the field decide to drop nude pics altogether?

No, it would be moreso that it's strange that we still consider it be to a necessary distinction to identify between those who are clothed or naked, and the fact that there is still stigma around purchasing and viewing pornography to begin with.

[Gauthier]

That it's sad when porn is so commonplace that one of the pioneers in the field decide to drop nude pics altogether?

No, it would be moreso that it's strange that we still consider it be to a necessary distinction to identify between those who are clothed or naked, and the fact that there is still stigma around purchasing and viewing pornography to begin with.

Would you work at a steel mill naked?

[Czechanada]

No, it would be moreso that it's strange that we still consider it be to a necessary distinction to identify between those who are clothed or naked, and the fact that there is still stigma around purchasing and viewing pornography to begin with.

Would you work at a steel mill naked?

Nope.

[Cetacea]

India famously has no deceptions of sexual acts at all. Kama Sutra? No, that's from the vile, decadent west. Or it doesn't count as porn.

I can't post specific examples without breaking the site rules, but anyone who thinks Hinduism doesn't do pornography should google 'Khajuraho monuments' - the latter are a UNESCO World Heritage site consisting of a series of Hindu and Jain temples whose famous medieval erotic sculpture far surpasses the tame nudes in Playboy.

Playboy, for one, has never attempted to show anyone having sexual intercourse with a horse.

The Wikipedia entry is mostly safe; but I wouldn't open up the Google Images results for that search unless you're at home.

decadent westerner! thats Art not Pornography!

ps is it true that an elephant is depcted amongst those monuments too?

[The Archregimancy]

I can't post specific examples without breaking the site rules, but anyone who thinks Hinduism doesn't do pornography should google 'Khajuraho monuments' - the latter are a UNESCO World Heritage site consisting of a series of Hindu and Jain temples whose famous medieval erotic sculpture far surpasses the tame nudes in Playboy.

Playboy, for one, has never attempted to show anyone having sexual intercourse with a horse.

The Wikipedia entry is mostly safe; but I wouldn't open up the Google Images results for that search unless you're at home.

decadent westerner! thats Art not Pornography!

ps is it true that an elephant is depcted amongst those monuments too?

There are certainly sculptures of elephants next to copulating humans; I don't know if any show humans attempting to copulate with elephants - and I'm not inclined to go looking.

I thought manisdog was DoS.

No.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

decadent westerner! thats Art not Pornography!

ps is it true that an elephant is depcted amongst those monuments too?

There are certainly sculptures of elephants next to copulating humans; I don't know if any show humans attempting to copulate with elephants - and I'm not inclined to go looking.

The logistics of such an activity baffles me. *breaks out a piece of paper, a ruler and a calculator*

[Eol Sha]

There are certainly sculptures of elephants next to copulating humans; I don't know if any show humans attempting to copulate with elephants - and I'm not inclined to go looking.

The logistics of such an activity baffles me. *breaks out a piece of paper, a ruler and a calculator*

There's probably actual porn of such an act out there.

[Olthar]

There are certainly sculptures of elephants next to copulating humans; I don't know if any show humans attempting to copulate with elephants - and I'm not inclined to go looking.

The logistics of such an activity baffles me. *breaks out a piece of paper, a ruler and a calculator*

Just make sure you're not on the receiving end.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

The logistics of such an activity baffles me. *breaks out a piece of paper, a ruler and a calculator*

There's probably actual porn of such an act out there.

Yeah, probably. Deep in the bowels of the internet, all things have happened.

[Sun Wukong]

The logistics of such an activity baffles me. *breaks out a piece of paper, a ruler and a calculator*

Just make sure you're not on the receiving end.

As the scriptures say, "tis better to give then to receive. Especially with an elephant."

[The Huskar Social Union]

Huh... okay then i guess, i dont really care ive never read one.

I'm starting to see a trend in your posting habits

Yes, I am 101 % anti-western

Oh fuck, you again.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Just make sure you're not on the receiving end.

As the scriptures say, "tis better to give then to receive. Especially with an elephant."

Amen.

[Eol Sha]

Just make sure you're not on the receiving end.

As the scriptures say, "tis better to give then to receive. Especially with an elephant."

I feel sick now.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Think of the soldiers Playboy!

[Ifreann]

Think of the solders Playboy!

Playboy does porn, not soldering.