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Postby Winnopolis » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:32 am

Jochistan wrote:
Winnopolis wrote:He doesn't have a religious obligation. It's just that he can't defend his case properly, so he uses unethical ways to get his point across.

What are you talking about, arrogant one who accused me of kafr?

I haven't accused you of kufr. I meant IF you listen to him and make istihlaal of blasphemy, you will be committing kufr.
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Postby Winnopolis » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:35 am

I must fly to another thread. See you guys soon.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:36 am

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Dyakovo wrote:I am. :)

Yeah but i'm 99% sure you dont have a religious obligation to not blaspheme against Islam, so yeah.

I don't have any religious obligations at all, so... Yeah.
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:36 am

Winnopolis wrote:
Jochistan wrote:What are you talking about, arrogant one who accused me of kafr?

I haven't accused you of kufr. I meant IF you listen to him and make istihlaal of blasphemy, you will be committing kufr.

It depends on what you see as blasphemy. Serious blasphemy. What business do you of all people have of judging what's kafr or not?
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:38 am

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:39 am

Winnopolis wrote:
Jochistan wrote:Yeah but i'm 99% sure you dont have a religious obligation to not blaspheme against Islam, so yeah.

He doesn't have a religious obligation. It's just that he can't defend his case properly, so he uses unethical ways to get his point across.

:rofl:
My case is quite easily defended.
There is zero verifiable evidence for the existence of any deity, thus there is no rational reason to think that one exists.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:39 am

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And physics. In my junior year of high school, a girl in my class did her independent project on the physics of basketball. She got the second highest grade in the class.


Your pie chart of pie slinging won, I presume? :p


Actually, I did my project on the hypothetical physics of miniaturization as depicted in the book, "Fantastic Voyage 2: destination Brain". I hypothesized that gravity could accelerate light and by so doing, reduce Planck's Constant.

And yes, I got the highest grade. :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:41 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Winnopolis wrote:He doesn't have a religious obligation. It's just that he can't defend his case properly, so he uses unethical ways to get his point across.

PointING and giggling may not be the most compelling of arguements, but I don't see how it's unethical.

Indeed. Add "unethical" to the list of words she doesn'tknow the meaning of...
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:43 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Your pie chart of pie slinging won, I presume? :p


Actually, I did my project on the hypothetical physics of miniaturization as depicted in the book, "Fantastic Voyage 2: destination Brain". I hypothesized that gravity could accelerate light and by so doing, reduce Planck's Constant.

And yes, I got the highest grade. :p

Sounds interesting...
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Postby Italios » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:44 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Winnopolis wrote:He doesn't have a religious obligation. It's just that he can't defend his case properly, so he uses unethical ways to get his point across.

:rofl:
My case is quite easily defended.
There is zero verifiable evidence for the existence of any deity, thus there is no rational reason to think that one exists.

This is why I don't believe in god. There's no good, solid, indisputable evidence that God/gods exist. In my opinion, at least. What's evidence for one may be nonsense for another. Even if someone gave me good evidence that God/gods exist, that wouldn't change how I live my life because so far He/She/s hasn't affected me in any way, so why should that be any different now.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:45 am

Jochistan wrote:
Winnopolis wrote:He doesn't have a religious obligation. It's just that he can't defend his case properly, so he uses unethical ways to get his point across.

What are you talking about, arrogant one who accused me of kafr?

I rub her the wrong way (not uncommon, I rub a lot of people the wrong way).
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:47 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Jochistan wrote:What are you talking about, arrogant one who accused me of kafr?

I rub her the wrong way (not uncommon, I rub a lot of people the wrong way).


Stop rubbing then :p
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:48 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I rub her the wrong way (not uncommon, I rub a lot of people the wrong way).


Stop rubbing then :p


I recommend tickling instead.
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Postby The Lacedaemonians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:49 am

Dyakovo wrote:I rub her the wrong way (not uncommon, I rub a lot of people the wrong way).

Incorrect or inappropriate technique in rubbing can rustle the jimmies. :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:50 am

Italios wrote:
Dyakovo wrote: :rofl:
My case is quite easily defended.
There is zero verifiable evidence for the existence of any deity, thus there is no rational reason to think that one exists.

This is why I don't believe in god. There's no good, solid, indisputable evidence that God/gods exist. In my opinion, at least. What's evidence for one may be nonsense for another. Even if someone gave me good evidence that God/gods exist, that wouldn't change how I live my life because so far He/She/s hasn't affected me in any way, so why should that be any different now.

Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:51 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Italios wrote:This is why I don't believe in god. There's no good, solid, indisputable evidence that God/gods exist. In my opinion, at least. What's evidence for one may be nonsense for another. Even if someone gave me good evidence that God/gods exist, that wouldn't change how I live my life because so far He/She/s hasn't affected me in any way, so why should that be any different now.

Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.


I am displeased with you.

;)
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:51 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I rub her the wrong way (not uncommon, I rub a lot of people the wrong way).


Stop rubbing then :p

But I like rubbing... :(
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.


I am displeased with you.

;)

Prove that you're a deity. :p
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:53 am

Kannap wrote:Soaking up this free month of Netflix as much as possible.

Watched the movie Field of Lost Shoes last night/this morning. I've been to the battlefield, I know how the battle actually played out. The movie was pretty shit.

Watched the pilot episode of Rescue Me and now am determined to make it through 7 seasons of it in a month.

The first two seasons of orange is the new black are well worth it.
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Postby Italios » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:54 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Italios wrote:This is why I don't believe in god. There's no good, solid, indisputable evidence that God/gods exist. In my opinion, at least. What's evidence for one may be nonsense for another. Even if someone gave me good evidence that God/gods exist, that wouldn't change how I live my life because so far He/She/s hasn't affected me in any way, so why should that be any different now.

Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.

And I'm really not concerned with what they think of me. If they haven't affected my life so far, who cares.
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Dyakovo wrote:Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.


I am displeased with you.

;)

Never mind. Argument overturned, God is real.
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Postby The Lacedaemonians » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:54 am

Dyakovo wrote:Indeed. If a deity exists, they've done nothing to indicate their displeasure with me so far.

My personal theory is that no one could ever be so important as to warrant the express attention of divinity - thus asking for intercession would be pointless, since who are you that the cosmos would magically rearrange itself. And if one intends to praise it for its being itself, it seems redundant to praise it for what seems to come naturally to it.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:56 am

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Jochistan wrote:...maybe thats why he doesn't accept you. If I date a mainline Sunni (Naudhubillah) I wouldn't call them a disbeliever and expect it to go over well.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:56 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:PointING and giggling may not be the most compelling of arguements, but I don't see how it's unethical.

Indeed. Add "unethical" to the list of words she doesn'tknow the meaning of...

Tbf, English may not be her first language.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:56 am

Dyakovo wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I am displeased with you.

;)

Prove that you're a deity. :p


I've had worshippers 8)

Edit: Also, I'm a destroyer of whole civilizations. *pushes DEAT button wildly*
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:56 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:Soaking up this free month of Netflix as much as possible.

Watched the movie Field of Lost Shoes last night/this morning. I've been to the battlefield, I know how the battle actually played out. The movie was pretty shit.

Watched the pilot episode of Rescue Me and now am determined to make it through 7 seasons of it in a month.

The first two seasons of orange is the new black are well worth it.

They have almost every Jackie Chan flick, too.

Also, watch Shaolin Soccer if you havent already.

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