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Do you think white people are biggest terror threat in the US?

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No
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I don't care
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Other Opinion
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White people are biggest terror threat in the US

Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:55 pm

White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the US, killing more people in attacks than Muslims or any other group in the last 14 years, according to a study done by the New America Foundation.

The group looked into the 26 attacks on US soil that it defined as terror and found that 19 of those attacks were done by non-Muslims. All the studied attacks are post-9/11.


Since then, 48 people have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, compared to 26 killed by people who claimed to be jihadist. The non-Muslim groups include right-wing, anti-government organizations and white-supremacist groups.

Last week’s Charleston shooting — after which reports surfaced of the confessed shooter’s white-supremacist ideology — was included in the count.

Other attacks, like the massacres in Aurora, Colorado and Newtown, Connecticut, were not included, since they do not appear to have been caused by a specific ideology, the standard used by New America Foundation to qualify terrorism.

This information may shock the public, as post-9/11 trauma has made jihadi terror attacks more prominent in the media, but US law enforcement is well aware of the danger of white extremist groups, the New York Times reported.

A recent survey done by researchers at the University of North Carolina and Duke University asked 382 US police departments to list top threats and 74 per cent listed anti-government violence, while just 39 per cent said “Al Qaeda-inspired” violence.

“Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” Charles Kurzman, a UNC researcher, told the Times.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 42987.html
https://www.rt.com/usa/270142-white-ame ... or-threat/
http://www.globalpost.com/article/65927 ... ted-states
I see this as no big surprise. White terrorism has been a huge problem in the past from the KKK, to abortion clinics being bombs to School shootings. I see it as no big surprise. It is mainly because white people have a habit of supporting the status quo even it is in a violent manner. It is that reason why, the left needs to become militant as well. Back on subject, yes, I do believe people are the biggest terrorist threat in America, I know the sources are bad usually, RT and globalpost aren't that great but the independant is more reliable. The question is, do you think white people are biggest terror threat in US?
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Postby Othelos » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:20 am

The race card is getting very old.

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:27 am

The media will always establish a narrative for itself and stick to its guns. Before 9/11, a terrorist was an eastern European hard man or a disheveled anarchist with a trenchcoat living in a shed. After 9/11, a terrorist was a pissed off Muslim. This is just the narrative the media established for itself. It has no relevance to what's actually happening. There's a reason that nobody has ever heard of the Alabama Free Militia.
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:31 am

White People are the biggest terror threat in the world.

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Postby Russo-Byzantine Empire » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:31 am

The greatest terror threat in the US comes from everyone who denies themselves the good governance of a monarchy.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:32 am

That isn't racist at all, no sirree.

If you want to get really specific the largest terror threats in the US are Latino's and extreme left wing groups, having committed a combined 73% of terror attacks between 1980 and 2005.
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Postby British Empire Strikes Back » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:34 am

Arabs, North Africans, Persians and most Muslims (excluding Sub-Saharan African Muslims) are racially "White". If you mean European instead of White, then just say European-American or Euro-American.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:35 am

Muslims are only a tiny portion of the US population.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:39 am

Demographic group with largest population commits largest number of terrorist attacks. HOW CAN IT BE???? :shock:
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Postby Jochistan » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:43 am

Fighting racism that a small vocal minority of whites have with racism towards all whites is not going to work.
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Postby Incredible Bums » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:44 am

Zottistan wrote:There's a reason that nobody has ever heard of the Alabama Free Militia.

Well, I, for example, have; and I´m not even an American, I´m from Europe... :eyebrow:

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Postby Torisakia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:44 am

Welp. Time to ban white people. It's for the best, amirite?

I don't understand how Whites are a bigger terror threat than other races in the US. Sure, they're the majority. But anyone can commit an act of terror. If anything, people are the biggest terror threat in the US.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:46 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Whites are unpatriotic. They don't love America and its freedoms like you and I do. Clealy the only solution is to deport them back to Canada and build a 10 mile high wall on the border.


Ooh, I get to live in Canada? Sign me up.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:47 am

Torisakia wrote:Welp. Time to ban white people. It's for the best, amirite?

I don't understand how Whites are a bigger terror threat than other races in the US. Sure, they're the majority. But anyone can commit an act of terror. If anything, people are the biggest terror threat in the US.


This is why you should put monitors in charge instead of human politicians.
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Postby Neu California » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:49 am

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The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Whites are unpatriotic. They don't love America and its freedoms like you and I do. Clealy the only solution is to deport them back to Canada and build a 10 mile high wall on the border.


Ooh, I get to live in Canada? Sign me up.

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:50 am

Actually, they are the biggest threat to terrorism, because they're the largest group.

Socialist Tera wrote:It is that reason why, the left needs to become militant as well.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:52 am

Allanea wrote:Muslims are only a tiny portion of the US population.


This, they do proportionally far more damage.

Whites are 72% of the population and responsible for 48 deaths. Less than one death per % (0.66) of the population. 0.9% of the population are Muslim and responsible for 26 deaths. That's a rate over 40 times greater.
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Postby Yoonahstezamurrkka » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:54 am

The OP's argument, or question, is invalid in it's basic context. It's comparing a huge population and vast range of ethnicities classified together as white against a relatively tiny population within the US of a particular religious sect.
The question needs to be recast as "are white people a larger terror threat per capita than [another ethnicity]" or "are Christians a larger terror threat per capita than [another religious group]."

The answer to either or any other version of the question involves neither ethnicity nor religion per se, but extremist ideology, and what proportion of any ethnic or religious group holds to an extremist ideology and embraces terrorist activity. If you find 15,000 terrorists among a majority population of 150 million, only 0.01% are lethal nutjobs. If you find only 10,000 terrorists among a minority population of a million, 1% are lethal nutjobs. Which group is more dangerous?
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:56 am

"White people" are not a terror threat any more than Muslims are. Some white people are terrorists just as some Muslims are. Most are not, in both cases.

This is self-evident to anyone who is not prejudiced.

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Postby Cetacea » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:56 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Whites are unpatriotic. They don't love America and its freedoms like you and I do. Clealy the only solution is to deport them back to Canada and build a 10 mile high wall on the border.


White people don't come from Canada, only Eskimos come from Canada

white people are inherently destructive and need to be contained in specially built enclosures. Perhaps when California breaks off from the mainland it could be fenced and set aside for their incarceration.

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Postby Allanea » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:58 am

Yoonahstezamurrkka wrote:The OP's argument, or question, is invalid in it's basic context. It's comparing a huge population and vast range of ethnicities classified together as white against a relatively tiny population within the US of a particular religious sect.
The question needs to be recast as "are white people a larger terror threat per capita than [another ethnicity]" or "are Christians a larger terror threat per capita than [another religious group]."

The answer to either or any other version of the question involves neither ethnicity nor religion per se, but extremist ideology, and what proportion of any ethnic or religious group holds to an extremist ideology and embraces terrorist activity. If you find 15,000 terrorists among a majority population of 150 million, only 0.01% are lethal nutjobs. If you find only 10,000 terrorists among a minority population of a million, 1% are lethal nutjobs. Which group is more dangerous?



Except that all of this is silly.

The threat of terrorism, Muslim or Christian, is vanishingly small either way, unless you're literally living in someplace like Rakkah.
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Postby Jochistan » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:58 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:"White people" are not a terror threat any more than Muslims are. Some white people are terrorists just as some Muslims are. Most are not, in both cases.


And some Muslims are White. and have been for centuries
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Postby Jochistan » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:01 am

I can tell that this is a response to our recent infestation of racist wackjobs that make even most of the far right look bad, frankly.

And it's not the right response. It just gives the whole thing more fuel.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:04 am

Terrorism, white, black, or green, is not a major threat to America. Nor Australia nor any major Western country.
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