Should we ban the impovershed from having children?

[Imperial Esplanade]

Perhaps we should improve social mobility, then.

Improving social mobility is communism.

Right, and that turned out shockingly well for literally every single implementation of communism ever.

[Imperializt Russia]

If Bob and Jane are great parents who have happy kids, but are broke - well, we can fix that. We can give them food and clothes and a house.

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Perhaps we should improve social mobility, then.

Improving social mobility is communism.

I suppose that the proletariat imposing a dictatorship could be seen that way.

[Imperializt Russia]

Improving social mobility is communism.

Right, and that turned out shockingly well for literally every single implementation of communism ever.

Joke





Your head
*not to scale
**scale wouldn't fit

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What happens when you're a rich person and you go bankrupt and lose all your money? Is your license now revoked and all your children murdered?

No, they're just taken by the state or farmed out to relatives of yours who weren't so careless as to lose their money.

[Shiraan]

What happens when you're a rich person and you go bankrupt and lose all your money? Is your license now revoked and all your children murdered?

did anyone say anything about murdering children? no. I'll answer it for you. it's no.

[Galloism]

Improving social mobility is communism.

Right, and that turned out shockingly well for literally every single implementation of communism ever.

Sarcasm doesn't flow well on the internet.

[Imperial Esplanade]

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

Depends on whose is dealing with "taxes."

[Grave_n_idle]

If Bob and Jane are great parents who have happy kids, but are broke - well, we can fix that. We can give them food and clothes and a house.

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

[Shiraan]

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

if the world's gov'ts could afford to feed, clothe, and house everyone, don't you think we'd be doing that already?

[Immoren]

which, again, means nothing if you can't AFFORD an education.

Ok wait wait - I have this great idea.

Let's make elementary and secondary education free, and then heavily subsidize post-secondary education so that cost is not a concern for children.

Obviously you should make even the post-secondary school free. *nods*

[Matta]

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

Yeah anything for the kids, except when it comes out of our pockets.

[Franco-Iberie]

While we're at it, let's ban the poor from shitting too. It'll cut down on sewage levels.

[Grave_n_idle]

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

if the world's gov'ts could afford to feed, clothe, and house everyone, don't you think we'd be doing that already?

First - it isn't necessary for 'governments' to do this. Charities COULD.

Second - no. Rich and powerful people have engineered the system so that they can accumulate wealth and power.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

if the world's gov'ts could afford to feed, clothe, and house everyone, don't you think we'd be doing that already?

No.

It's actually cheaper to provide housing for the homeless without preconditions than it is to keep them on the streets, and yet we don't do that.

[Immoren]

You're aware of what "tax" is, right?

It's not just for buying hookers and blow with.

if the world's gov'ts could afford to feed, clothe, and house everyone, don't you think we'd be doing that already?

We could do it. Certain key people's just lazy. *ndos*

[Shiraan]

And who is going to pay for that? Everyone else?

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

If the gov't can afford it without taxing everyone to the point of poverty, that'd be a great idea. I just don't think it'd work out like that.

[Imperial Esplanade]

Right, and that turned out shockingly well for literally every single implementation of communism ever.

Sarcasm doesn't flow well on the internet.

The internet doesn't provide a special sarcasm text. Would be nice though... because the internet, especially NationStates, is full of the historically ignorant who do actually prefer communism. So in context, I'd have no idea if you were one of them.

[Fashiontopia]

It's not the role of Government to decide what people do reproductively. So this question shouldn't even be asked, because it's not up to the Government's choice anyway.

[Shiraan]

It's not the role of Government to decide what people do reproductively. So this question shouldn't even be asked, because it's not up to the Government's choice anyway.

what's more important; your happiness, or everyone else's quality of life?

[Immoren]

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

If the gov't can afford it without taxing everyone to the point of poverty, that'd be a great idea. I just don't think it'd work out like that.

Obviously solution isn't to tax everyone to the point of poverty. Replace icncome tax 1:1 ratio with liquid wealth tax. *nods*

[Grave_n_idle]

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

If the gov't can afford it without taxing everyone to the point of poverty, that'd be a great idea. I just don't think it'd work out like that.

We're on the brink of technological revolution, remember? You were all onboard with that just a few minutes ago.

But there's no reason why everyone couldn't be fed, clothes and housed even now. No reason but greed - there's enough for everyone if those with all the resources can just share a bit.

[Galloism]

Sure. Why not? Isn't it the kids we're doing this for?

If the gov't can afford it without taxing everyone to the point of poverty, that'd be a great idea. I just don't think it'd work out like that.

I would like to introduce you to the concept of the roaring fifties.

[Imperial Esplanade]

if the world's gov'ts could afford to feed, clothe, and house everyone, don't you think we'd be doing that already?

No.

It's actually cheaper to provide housing for the homeless without preconditions than it is to keep them on the streets, and yet we don't do that.

Actually, it's slowly starting to come around as the norm in many communities and states across the country. Now it would be nice if things were expedited a bit more though... it's just that everyone else is waiting to see further results from this social experiment.

[Imperial Esplanade]

It's not the role of Government to decide what people do reproductively. So this question shouldn't even be asked, because it's not up to the Government's choice anyway.

what's more important; your happiness, or everyone else's quality of life?

Or how about "right to a decent quality life" for everyone? Sounds fair, no?

I mean, it's not like these people can't work themselves up or get out of poverty if given the opportunities to do it.