Should we ban the impovershed from having children?

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

A recession, followed by a quick rebuilt without a bunch of greedy cry babies.

Not even. Unless most of these "investors" are spiteful idiots. Their private tax havens shouldn't really effect their investing habits, and would really only impact the taxes paid on their personal assets.

True. But I was going under the assumption that these nitwits theoretically leaving were the ideal "job creator," i.e. not the kind of people that actually leave.

[Gauthier]

There. Somewhat improved.

Aye aye. Everything's better when you add a cat to it.

Even Hitler?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Aye aye. Everything's better when you add a cat to it.

"Now we will be aborting your illegal child by inserting a kitten through your cervix, having injected the fetus with catnip."

My cervix just ran away screaming, which is quite the feat. I hope you're happy.

[Liriena]

Apparently, a lot of people saw it and thought: "Well, golly, that looks like an utopian society to me!"

A lot of people were also aroused by Elysium until they realized Matt Damon was one of the commie leeches trying to destroy libertarian paradise.

To be fair, a world ruled by Jodie Foster doesn't sound too bad.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

And the cost of additional law enforcement?

Temporary. This idea would eventually foster a new culture of self-reliance where it would be shameful to rely on others to support your children, and you wouldn't kill a cop in order to have one.

No it wouldn't.

[Gauthier]

Aye aye. Everything's better when you add a cat to it.

"Now we will be aborting your illegal child by inserting a kitten through your cervix, having injected the fetus with catnip."

Kitten inside a cervix, also known as tribadism.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Aye aye. Everything's better when you add a cat to it.

Even Hitler?

If the swastika weren't present, I would use that as a flag.

[Padanyia]

Do you realize what would happen to social programs if a significant amount of U.S. investors left the country?

A recession, followed by a quick rebuilt without a bunch of greedy cry babies.

Most investors I know are hard working middle class people who saved carefully instead of having children, and will likely be part of the wealthy capitalist class someday. Calling investors "greedy" is a tactic of the left to get others to support us giving more money to bureaucrats and irresponsible welfare beneficiaries. They don't understand that entrepreneurship, not socialism grows the economy.

[USS Monitor]

Apparently, a lot of people saw it and thought: "Well, golly, that looks like an utopian society to me!"

It's kinda like the people who read Watchmen and think: "Geesh, I wanna be like Rorschach!"
No, no, no, stop. You're going to make the author cry himself to death.

I like Rorschach as a character, but I realize he'd be pretty annoying IRL.

[USS Monitor]

And the cost of additional law enforcement?

Temporary. This idea would eventually foster a new culture of self-reliance where it would be shameful to rely on others to support your children, and you wouldn't kill a cop in order to have one.

When the communist revolution comes, people will stop worrying about their selfish desires and work hard for the good of the country as a whole. Nobody will act lazy and mooch off the system.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

A recession, followed by a quick rebuilt without a bunch of greedy cry babies.

Most investors I know are hard working middle class people who saved carefully instead of having children, and will likely be part of the wealthy capitalist class someday. Calling investors "greedy" is a tactic of the left to get others to support us giving more money to bureaucrats and irresponsible welfare beneficiaries. They don't understand that entrepreneurship, not socialism grows the economy.

No, greedy dick chompers pretty well describes anyone who renounces citizenship because they don't want poor people to be able to have rights or food.

[Padanyia]

Temporary. This idea would eventually foster a new culture of self-reliance where it would be shameful to rely on others to support your children, and you wouldn't kill a cop in order to have one.

When the communist revolution comes, people will stop worrying about their selfish desires and work hard for the good of the country as a whole. Nobody will act lazy and mooch off the system.

People care about themselves, and their families. Many people don't want to help "the country" and you'll have to work quite hard to make up for their lack of effort. Assuming you get through the "degenerated worker's state" phase

[Neu California]

A recession, followed by a quick rebuilt without a bunch of greedy cry babies.

Most investors I know are hard working middle class people who saved carefully instead of having children, and will likely be part of the wealthy capitalist class someday. Calling investors "greedy" is a tactic of the left to get others to support us giving more money to bureaucrats and irresponsible welfare beneficiaries. They don't understand that entrepreneurship, not socialism grows the economy.

Anecdotal, and speculative. Regardless, if they're middle class, then they probably don't have the means or the desire to offshore their investments anyway, if I had to guess.

[Sun Wukong]

A recession, followed by a quick rebuilt without a bunch of greedy cry babies.

Most investors I know are hard working middle class people who saved carefully instead of having children, and will likely be part of the wealthy capitalist class someday. Calling investors "greedy" is a tactic of the left to get others to support us giving more money to bureaucrats and irresponsible welfare beneficiaries. They don't understand that entrepreneurship, not socialism grows the economy.

Most of the things "you know" are made up.

[Padanyia]

Most investors I know are hard working middle class people who saved carefully instead of having children, and will likely be part of the wealthy capitalist class someday. Calling investors "greedy" is a tactic of the left to get others to support us giving more money to bureaucrats and irresponsible welfare beneficiaries. They don't understand that entrepreneurship, not socialism grows the economy.

No, greedy dick chompers pretty well describes anyone who renounces citizenship because they don't want poor people to be able to have rights or food.

That's what socialist countries tried to hammer in, and it didn't work well for them when they killed the bourgeoisie.

I'd rather not pay for people like this. You can if you want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

[Liriena]

socialist countries

*gasp* SOCIALIST COUNTRIES?! WHERE?!

[USS Monitor]

When the communist revolution comes, people will stop worrying about their selfish desires and work hard for the good of the country as a whole. Nobody will act lazy and mooch off the system.

People care about themselves, and their families. Many people don't want to help "the country" and you'll have to work quite hard to make up for their lack of effort. Assuming you get through the "degenerated worker's state" phase

That's the point. You are suggesting that human behavior will change drastically when your system is implemented. It's not realistic to expect those kinds of huge changes in the way people think and behave. It doesn't work under communist regimes and there's no reason to think it would work under your system either.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

No, greedy dick chompers pretty well describes anyone who renounces citizenship because they don't want poor people to be able to have rights or food.

That's what socialist countries tried to hammer in, and it didn't work well for them when they killed the bourgeoisie.

I'd rather not pay for people like this. You can if you want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

OH MY GOD YOU FOUND A LOUD IMPOVERISHED PERSON! THEY ARE ALL EXACTLY LIKE THAT! HOW DARE AMERICA PROVIDE BASIC UTILITIES TO POOR PEOPLE! POOR PEOPLE ARE SCUM!

[Padanyia]

socialist countries

*gasp* SOCIALIST COUNTRIES?! WHERE?!

Paradise-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

[Threlizdun]

Fuck no

[Neu California]

A job searching website isn't proof that all it takes is hard work to get out of poverty. Care to provide actual statistics?

This proposal would decrease the supply of labor, lowering the unemployment rate, therefore making it much easier to escape poverty.

That claim, even if true and not having other, more negative effects on the economy (less people, less demand for things, less money spent, etc.), has nothing to do with your claim that all you need to do is work harder to get out of poverty

[Atomic Utopia]

*gasp* SOCIALIST COUNTRIES?! WHERE?!

Paradise-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

And we are not arguing socialism, we are arguing a safety net for capitalism. And I think I will copy the link to that image, might be good for when I am arguing against socialism.

[Liriena]

*gasp* SOCIALIST COUNTRIES?! WHERE?!

Paradise-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

Do workers own the means of production in those countries?

Also, you do realise socialism and Marxism-Leninism are not synonyms, correct? And as a bit of a leftist myself, I despise the regimes in all of those nations.

[Veridys]

I saw another thread similar to this one, except it wanted the rich to not have kids at all. What is wrong with people?

[Sun Wukong]

Paradise-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

And we are not arguing socialism, we are arguing a safety net for capitalism. And I think I will copy the link to that image, might be good for when I am arguing against socialism.

Best not. Chilean anti-communism is hardly an example worth imitating.