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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:05 pm

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It's reinforced by both genders. Why do you seem intent on erasing womens role in it?

Lmao

No it isn't reinforced by both genders and women have a virtually non existent part in it.

If a woman doesn't find a male attractive and doesn't want to have sex with them, are they reinforcing this culture? Should women be made to have pity sex with males they don't like? Can women truly be blamed for not wanting to have sex with men who they don't find attractive?

Beta males is a term created by other males who think of themselves as alpha. It is men putting down other men to feel better about themselves. The only thing it has to do with women is that self-proclaimed alpha males will typically view women as a more intelligent breed of cattle, where if they complete a list of items on an imaginary checklist they will be granted pussy.

Or maybe it's because they're demonized so much and caught so deep in the crossfire of Political Correctness such as 'women are being oppressed every day, you should do everything we tell you to do, or you're raping us', that events such as this happen. The same can be said of the Elliott Rodger incident.

Coincidentially, both of these people were born in the United Kingdom. Pretty strange.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:11 pm

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Lmao

No it isn't reinforced by both genders and women have a virtually non existent part in it.

If a woman doesn't find a male attractive and doesn't want to have sex with them, are they reinforcing this culture? Should women be made to have pity sex with males they don't like? Can women truly be blamed for not wanting to have sex with men who they don't find attractive?

Beta males is a term created by other males who think of themselves as alpha. It is men putting down other men to feel better about themselves. The only thing it has to do with women is that self-proclaimed alpha males will typically view women as a more intelligent breed of cattle, where if they complete a list of items on an imaginary checklist they will be granted pussy.

Or maybe it's because they're demonized so much and caught so deep in the crossfire of Political Correctness such as 'women are being oppressed every day, you should do everything we tell you to do, or you're raping us', that events such as this happen. The same can be said of the Elliott Rodger incident.

Coincidentially, both of these people were born in the United Kingdom. Pretty strange.

Wow, we have Elliot Rodger apologists on NSG these days?

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Elliot Rodger was a weird cunt who posted selfie after selfie on the misc so people could call him beautiful, then he'd bitch incessantly about how uglier and poorer guys than him manage to have girlfriends while he'd never been kissed. Does that sound like somebody who got demonized by feminists? Did you even know who he was before he made the headlines? Did you brah? Do you even misc?
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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:18 pm

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Confederation of Common Sense wrote:Or maybe it's because they're demonized so much and caught so deep in the crossfire of Political Correctness such as 'women are being oppressed every day, you should do everything we tell you to do, or you're raping us', that events such as this happen. The same can be said of the Elliott Rodger incident.

Coincidentially, both of these people were born in the United Kingdom. Pretty strange.

Wow, we have Elliot Rodger apologists on NSG these days?

Trufax

Elliot Rodger was a weird cunt who posted selfie after selfie on the misc so people could call him beautiful, then he'd bitch incessantly about how uglier and poorer guys than him manage to have girlfriends while he'd never been kissed. Does that sound like somebody who got demonized by feminists? Did you even know who he was before he made the headlines? Did you brah? Do you even misc?


I am not an Elliott Rodger apologist. I am merely using him as an example of mental illness being dismissed as a problem in favor of 'I am this gender, therefore I should hate the opposite gender', and other pointless circlejerks, and before you go off on your little tangent about 'mansplaining' and 'The Patriarchy', let me remind you that NOT EVERY criminal in the history of the world was male.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:23 pm

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Confederation of Common Sense wrote:Or maybe it's because they're demonized so much and caught so deep in the crossfire of Political Correctness such as 'women are being oppressed every day, you should do everything we tell you to do, or you're raping us', that events such as this happen. The same can be said of the Elliott Rodger incident.

Coincidentially, both of these people were born in the United Kingdom. Pretty strange.

Wow, we have Elliot Rodger apologists on NSG these days?

Trufax

Elliot Rodger was a weird cunt who posted selfie after selfie on the misc so people could call him beautiful, then he'd bitch incessantly about how uglier and poorer guys than him manage to have girlfriends while he'd never been kissed. Does that sound like somebody who got demonized by feminists? Did you even know who he was before he made the headlines? Did you brah? Do you even misc?


He has actual apologists? I thought the routine was MRAs and Red Pillers vehemnetly denying he was one of them.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:24 pm

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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Wow, we have Elliot Rodger apologists on NSG these days?

Trufax

Elliot Rodger was a weird cunt who posted selfie after selfie on the misc so people could call him beautiful, then he'd bitch incessantly about how uglier and poorer guys than him manage to have girlfriends while he'd never been kissed. Does that sound like somebody who got demonized by feminists? Did you even know who he was before he made the headlines? Did you brah? Do you even misc?


I am not an Elliott Rodger apologist. I am merely using him as an example of mental illness being dismissed as a problem in favor of 'I am this gender, therefore I should hate the opposite gender', and other pointless circlejerks,

So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

and before you go off on your little tangent about 'mansplaining' and 'The Patriarchy', let me remind you that NOT EVERY criminal in the history of the world was male.

You sure you're replying to the right guy?
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Postby Cesurion » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:31 pm

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Confederation of Common Sense wrote:
I am not an Elliott Rodger apologist. I am merely using him as an example of mental illness being dismissed as a problem in favor of 'I am this gender, therefore I should hate the opposite gender', and other pointless circlejerks,

So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

and before you go off on your little tangent about 'mansplaining' and 'The Patriarchy', let me remind you that NOT EVERY criminal in the history of the world was male.

You sure you're replying to the right guy?


I'd just like to passionately agree with everything that Vitaphone Racing has posted thus far, and also to thank the Confederation of Common Sense for his concern for those suffering from mental illness, however misplaced. Confederation of Common Sense, you can send in your donation to the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) at this address. Thank you for volunteering to contribute!

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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:38 pm

So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill, because he did it for the most rediculous reason possible.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:39 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:
So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill.


Nobody defended Nidal Hassan by claiming he was mentally ill, insisting that he was a politically motivated terrorist.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:42 pm

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Confederation of Common Sense wrote:You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill.


Nobody defended Nidal Hassan by claiming he was mentally ill, insisting that he was a politically motivated terrorist.

My point still stands.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:45 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:
So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron.

Shit bro. That's a sweet flame you got right there.
You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill, because he did it for the most rediculous reason possible.

I don't particularly give a shit what your whacked interpretation of psychology is because you're not a psych, but I asked whether he was diagnosed with a mental illness? Or just diagnosed with mental illness because I forgot that specific mental illnesses like bipolar disorder, clinical depression and schizophrenia didn't exist and i just made those terms up on the spot. lol

If that's too hard for you, at least provide some substance that mean, nasty feminists made him and this tool kill people because women didn't like getting raped or something.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:49 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:
So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill, because he did it for the most rediculous reason possible.


Mentally ill person here (clinical depression), you can have a specific mental illness. There's a lot of overlap in between many forms of mental illness, but to throw us depressed people in with those with ASPD/Narcissists is what's really moronic.
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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:52 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Confederation of Common Sense wrote:You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron.

Shit bro. That's a sweet flame you got right there.
You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill, because he did it for the most rediculous reason possible.

I don't particularly give a shit what your whacked interpretation of psychology is because you're not a psych, but I asked whether he was diagnosed with a mental illness? Or just diagnosed with mental illness because I forgot that specific mental illnesses like bipolar disorder, clinical depression and schizophrenia didn't exist and i just made those terms up on the spot. lol

If that's too hard for you, at least provide some substance that mean, nasty feminists made him and this tool kill people because women didn't like getting raped or something.

Appeal to Authority Fallacy

Also, Because you're demonizing them to the point of mass murder.
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Postby Cesurion » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:52 pm

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So which mental illness did he have? One he was never officially diagnosed with?

Sorry to tell you, but he was just a jealous prick who hated women because he couldn't get laid

You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill, because he did it for the most rediculous reason possible.


What? That is not at all how mental illness works, friend. And please, let's not start name-calling! Allow me to explain. People do indeed have specific mental illnesses! In America, the standard text used to diagnose mental illnesses is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Just a few examples of specific mental illnesses: I personally suffer from Tourette's Syndrome, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and Generalized Anxiety Disorder.

Elliott Rodger was not mentally ill. There is a (relatively speaking) logical connection between his beliefs and his actions. He hated women for rejecting him, therefore he sought revenge on women through violent means. A mentally ill person, on the other hand, would not have any sort of logical connection between their beliefs and their actions. Someone suffering from a mental illness might perpetrate a mass shooting because they were convinced that they were receiving special, secret messages through their television sets telling them that they were possessed by the devil. (Seriously, I work in mental health services, and I once had a case like this. The man didn't perpetrate a mass shooting, but he did stab someone.)

Please check out the link I sent you in my previous post for further information!
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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:54 pm

Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Feminists hijacking the fucking thread with their fucking bullshit about the Patriarchy and Mansplaining. I'm done here. Bye.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:56 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Feminists hijacking the fucking thread with their fucking bullshit about the Patriarchy and Mansplaining. I'm done here. Bye.


You're the only one who brought up Patriarchy and Mansplaining in the thread.
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Postby Cesurion » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:57 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Feminists hijacking the fucking thread with their fucking bullshit about the Patriarchy and Mansplaining. I'm done here. Bye.


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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:57 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Shit bro. That's a sweet flame you got right there.

I don't particularly give a shit what your whacked interpretation of psychology is because you're not a psych, but I asked whether he was diagnosed with a mental illness? Or just diagnosed with mental illness because I forgot that specific mental illnesses like bipolar disorder, clinical depression and schizophrenia didn't exist and i just made those terms up on the spot. lol

If that's too hard for you, at least provide some substance that mean, nasty feminists made him and this tool kill people because women didn't like getting raped or something.

Appeal to Authority Fallacy

Yeah, nah sorry. You don't get to pretend your opinion holds any water unless you give me a good reason to take you seriously. When you scrolled through your list of fallacies to find that one, did you see one called anecdotal evidence? Or one named made up bullshit?

Also, Because you're demonizing them to the point of mass murder.

Yeah lol. Even though he basically came straight out and said "I'm murdering people because no sex", he must have done it because people were demonizing him for treating women like sex objects, assorted racism and generally being a douche. I see.

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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:57 pm

Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Feminists hijacking the fucking thread with their fucking bullshit about the Patriarchy and Mansplaining. I'm done here. Bye.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:58 pm

Confederation of Common Sense wrote:Fuck this shit. I'm tired of Feminists hijacking the fucking thread with their fucking bullshit about the Patriarchy and Mansplaining. I'm done here. Bye.


Nothing gets the point across like coming back to a thread you declared you were leaving just to declare you're leaving *again*.

And the Patriarchy and Mansplaining source is still... You.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:11 am

Pretty sure we already have an Elliott Rodgers thread, and this ain't it.
Anyway, this looks pretty suckish, though it is not really relevant news to me.
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Postby Confederation of Common Sense » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:23 am

Gauthier wrote:
Confederation of Common Sense wrote:You can't have a 'specific' mental illness, moron. You are either mentally ill or you are not mentally ill. A mental illness is self-evident by the person's actions. For example, if I mass-murdered people because I hated women, I am mentally ill, but if I shoplifted because I needed food to survive, then I am not mentally ill, I'm trying to survive. A mass murderer therefore will always be mentally ill. By this fact alone, Elliott Rodger was mentally ill.


Nobody defended Nidal Hassan by claiming he was mentally ill, insisting that he was a politically motivated terrorist.

My point still stands.
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Postby Cesurion » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:25 am

Is he really gone? Can I talk shit now? I get so fucking sick of being diplomatic. "His beliefs alone make him mentally ill," I mean, Christ, are you kidding me? Seriously, new rule: every time you discuss mental illness in relation to mass shootings, you have to make a sizable donation to the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). If you're really so concerned about mental illness, you can put your money where your fucking mouth is.
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Postby Cesurion » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:26 am

He's not gone. Whoops.

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