Would You Kill God?

[Washington Resistance Army]

You will get the answer someday.

Unless you're mentally ill and hearing voices in your head, no you won't.

"Fuck off, I'm busy."
Tengri 1:1

This is why we should all embrace the glory that is Tengri.

[Jochistan]

"Fuck off, I'm busy."
Tengri 1:1

This is why we should all embrace the glory that is Tengri.

I personally believe Tengri/Allah are the same ultimate Godhead.
But that might be the Pan-Turanism talking.

Either way, I would not kill God. I think he's on to something.

[The Sons of Adam]

So long as God exists, humanity is enslaved and subjugated. I'd kill the old bastard.

Besides, he burned down dozens of cities and wiped out a couple peoples in their entirety. If that's not crimes against humanity, genocide, and millions of counts of first degree murder, I don't know what is.

God obeying human laws kinda contradicts the meaning of a god... right?

[Immoren]

So long as God exists, humanity is enslaved and subjugated. I'd kill the old bastard.

Besides, he burned down dozens of cities and wiped out a couple peoples in their entirety. If that's not crimes against humanity, genocide, and millions of counts of first degree murder, I don't know what is.

God obeying human laws kinda contradicts the meaning of a god... right?

Well, the Emperor Sun Hai managed to enslave the Water Dragon's power, for example, so it's not unprecedented.

[The Tungsten Horde (Ancient)]

So long as God exists, humanity is enslaved and subjugated. I'd kill the old bastard.

Besides, he burned down dozens of cities and wiped out a couple peoples in their entirety. If that's not crimes against humanity, genocide, and millions of counts of first degree murder, I don't know what is.

God obeying human laws kinda contradicts the meaning of a god... right?

And yet he expects you to all obey his laws.

What a hypocrite.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

And yet he expects you to all obey his laws.

What a hypocrite.

One thing I always thought was interesting, is that, theoretically, before God created the concepts - there was no Good or Evil.

Like, God invented morality, right? Hypothetically. So, he could've made anything "moral." Of course, from an atheist point of view, morality is technically subjective/nonexistent... but it is from a theist perspective as well.

My question is: Why did God make it so that being gay/doing gay things was immoral? Why punish so many men and women that were born that way, that he knew would be born that way?

I could go off with several of those kinds of questions, but you get my point. How does that contribute to his glory?

[North Arkana]

And yet he expects you to all obey his laws.

What a hypocrite.

One thing I always thought was interesting, is that, theoretically, before God created the concepts - there was no Good or Evil.

Like, God invented morality, right? Hypothetically. So, he could've made anything "moral." Of course, from an atheist point of view, morality is technically subjective/nonexistent... but it is from a theist perspective as well.

My question is: Why did God make it so that being gay/doing gay things was immoral? Why punish so many men and women that were born that way, that he knew would be born that way?

I could go off with several of those kinds of questions, but you get my point. How does that contribute to his glory?

Probably because he's a vindictive god-child who enjoys setting up situations where he has an excuse to smite people. And when ever he smites, the god-fearing masses prostrate themselves further before him, or they take his words and act for him and some extremist group takes it upon themselves to do the smiting.

[Gim]

God obeying human laws kinda contradicts the meaning of a god... right?

And yet he expects you to all obey his laws.

What a hypocrite.

He only wreaks havoc to those who violate his laws on a consistent basis.

[Conscentia]

And yet he expects you to all obey his laws.
What a hypocrite.

He only wreaks havoc to those who violate his laws on a consistent basis.

In the Bible, YHWH has brought unpleasantness upon one-time offenders and even the innocent.

[Korhal IVV]

Exactly. After Earth is all over with, all the people that died and went to Heaven will be there, praising Him for eternity. I just don't see Him creating another world to go through the same thing all over again.

SO why did he do it the first time? Also praising him for eternity sounds really really dumb and boring. It also makes him seem like a needy child. Oh and...why are you determining what attributes god has when there is no scriptural support of your point. I will throw a quote heard often from Christians back at you...God works in mysterious ways.

Praising Him for eternity is a infinite times better than burning in hell forever.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Praising Him for eternity is a infinite times better than burning in hell forever.

But all the cool dudes are in hell.

[Korhal IVV]

Praising Him for eternity is a infinite times better than burning in hell forever.

But all the cool dudes are in hell.

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

[Washington Resistance Army]

But all the cool dudes are in hell.

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

If god condemns people to eternal suffering for not praising him, he's a top notch piece of shit.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

But all the cool dudes are in hell.

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

I have no reason to believe hell is eternal suffering. Hell, most Christians don't think that's what it is. Eternal horrific torture, burning in hell, is a minority evangelical Protestant view.

But anyway, yeah, I'd prefer that to sitting next to Jerry Falwell singing a genocidal childish deity's praises.

[Korhal IVV]

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

If god condemns people to eternal suffering for not praising him, he's a top notch piece of shit.

No. He sends them there as punishment for there sins. Such as lying, stealing, having bad thoughts, and other "bad things". Those who reject Jesus Christ are thrown down to hell because God cannot accept them because they have not asked forgiveness and repented.

[Immoren]

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

I have no reason to believe hell is eternal suffering. Hell, most Christians don't think that's what it is. Eternal horrific torture, burning in hell, is a minority evangelical Protestant view.

But anyway, yeah, I'd prefer that to sitting next to Jerry Falwell singing a genocidal childish deity's praises.

I'll just try to sneak through the service/access door into Tuonela.

[Korhal IVV]

So you want eternal suffering? Fine, go ahead.

I have no reason to believe hell is eternal suffering. Hell, most Christians don't think that's what it is. Eternal horrific torture, burning in hell, is a minority evangelical Protestant view.

But anyway, yeah, I'd prefer that to sitting next to Jerry Falwell singing a genocidal childish deity's praises.

Read Revelation properly

[Washington Resistance Army]

If god condemns people to eternal suffering for not praising him, he's a top notch piece of shit.

No. He sends them there as punishment for there sins. Such as lying, stealing, having bad thoughts, and other "bad things". Those who reject Jesus Christ are thrown down to hell because God cannot accept them because they have not asked forgiveness and repented.

Or you know, God could get off his lazy ass and just forgive everyone for his mistakes

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I have no reason to believe hell is eternal suffering. Hell, most Christians don't think that's what it is. Eternal horrific torture, burning in hell, is a minority evangelical Protestant view.

But anyway, yeah, I'd prefer that to sitting next to Jerry Falwell singing a genocidal childish deity's praises.

Read Revelation properly

I've read the entire Bible several times, bud.

[Korhal IVV]

No. He sends them there as punishment for there sins. Such as lying, stealing, having bad thoughts, and other "bad things". Those who reject Jesus Christ are thrown down to hell because God cannot accept them because they have not asked forgiveness and repented.

Or you know, God could get off his lazy ass and just forgive everyone for his mistakes

People must repent. Otherwise God won't forgive them.

[Protestant England and Germany]

We've already killed God, according to Nietzsche.

[Conscentia]

SO why did he do it the first time? Also praising him for eternity sounds really really dumb and boring. It also makes him seem like a needy child. Oh and...why are you determining what attributes god has when there is no scriptural support of your point. I will throw a quote heard often from Christians back at you...God works in mysterious ways.

Praising Him for eternity is a infinite times better than burning in hell forever.

Not all Christians believe Hell is a literal pit of fire. Many believe that is merely self-imposed isolation from God in the afterlife. I've heard one Christian assert that God, being benevolent, would never impose his presence on those who did not want it.

A minority of Christians are annihilationists - they believe that the souls of sinful are destroyed rather than subjected everlasting torment. There is scriptural support for annihiliationist interpretations:

"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." - Ezekiel 18:4
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

I have no reason to believe hell is eternal suffering. Hell, most Christians don't think that's what it is. Eternal horrific torture, burning in hell, is a minority evangelical Protestant view.

But anyway, yeah, I'd prefer that to sitting next to Jerry Falwell singing a genocidal childish deity's praises.

Read Revelation properly

To think that you know how to read Revelation "properly" is arrogant. It's an esoteric mess that can be interpreted in many ways.
As for Hell and Revelation, it makes references to a lake of fire. This lake of fire is never described as being part of the afterlife, but is described as "the second death". To me, "the second death" seems to support an annihilationist interpretation.

[Immoren]

Revelation is just trippy fanfiction that somehow got canonized. *nods*

[North Arkana]

If god condemns people to eternal suffering for not praising him, he's a top notch piece of shit.

No. He sends them there as punishment for there sins. Such as lying, stealing, having bad thoughts, and other "bad things". Those who reject Jesus Christ are thrown down to hell because God cannot accept them because they have not asked forgiveness and repented.

Right, and apparently Ghandi is burning there too.

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

If this being was capable of death, how can you be certain it is even a god?