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Would You Kill God?

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No
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The Tungsten Horde (Ancient)
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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:31 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Me too! Krishna is Lord!

This isn't about Krishna!

Vishnu then.

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Postby New confederate ramenia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:32 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:This isn't about Krishna!

Vishnu then.

Shiva master race.
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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:32 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:This isn't about Krishna!

Arguably, it could be. There are certain groups (IIRC Kirshna Consciousness is one of them) which claim that the Christian Godnis the same as Krishna, or other Hindu deities.

That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.
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“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

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Postby New Axiom » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:34 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Arguably, it could be. There are certain groups (IIRC Kirshna Consciousness is one of them) which claim that the Christian Godnis the same as Krishna, or other Hindu deities.

That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.


I agree with this dude
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You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:36 pm

New Axiom wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.


I agree with this dude

Wait do you agree with my statement or the idea that Krishna and God are one in the same? :blink:
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“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:36 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Me too! Krishna is Lord!

This isn't about Krishna!

Prove it. Prove your god isn't Krishna.
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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:38 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:This isn't about Krishna!

Prove it. Prove your god isn't Krishna.

...Because, the two are incompatible? Honestly you should be trying to prove to me that they are the same, since the religions that adhere to them are completely different.
17 year-old Conservative Reformed Baptist
“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

Saved...

Sola Gratia (by grace alone)
Sola Fide (through faith alone)
Solus Christus (in Christ alone)
Sola Scriptura (according to scripture alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (for the glory of God alone)

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Postby New Axiom » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:38 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
I agree with this dude

Wait do you agree with my statement or the idea that Krishna and God are one in the same? :blink:


No, your statement, about Krishna and God NOT being the same.

Prussia, with that logic, I could ask you to prove to me that your God isn't Athena.
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

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Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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The Tungsten Horde (Ancient)
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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:39 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Arguably, it could be. There are certain groups (IIRC Kirshna Consciousness is one of them) which claim that the Christian Godnis the same as Krishna, or other Hindu deities.

That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.

The Christian God "is described as a being that was once born."

They make a big point of it, in fact.

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Postby New Axiom » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:40 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.

The Christian God "is described as a being that was once born."

They make a big point of it, in fact.


Naw, that's Gods son. God himself, it says in the bible, has always existed.
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Postby The Danish Confederacy » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:40 pm

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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:41 pm

New Axiom wrote:
The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Christian God "is described as a being that was once born."

They make a big point of it, in fact.


Naw, that's Gods son. God himself, it says in the bible, has always existed.

You deny the divinity of Jesus?

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Grand Calvert
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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:41 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.

The Christian God "is described as a being that was once born."

They make a big point of it, in fact.

Jesus had pre-existed before His earthly birth; in fact, He once said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"

Ya know, since He's God and all that.
17 year-old Conservative Reformed Baptist
“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

Saved...

Sola Gratia (by grace alone)
Sola Fide (through faith alone)
Solus Christus (in Christ alone)
Sola Scriptura (according to scripture alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (for the glory of God alone)

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:41 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Arguably, it could be. There are certain groups (IIRC Kirshna Consciousness is one of them) which claim that the Christian Godnis the same as Krishna, or other Hindu deities.

That doesn't even make sense. Krishna is described as a being that was once born, but the Christian God has always existed eternally.

What about the supreme God-Parambramh? Sadashiv or Maheshwar?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby New confederate ramenia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:41 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Prove it. Prove your god isn't Krishna.

...Because, the two are incompatible? Honestly you should be trying to prove to me that they are the same, since the religions that adhere to them are completely different.

From the perspective of comparative mythology, the two are quite similar. Both are absolute, supreme Gods, both once incarnated on Earth, and both bring salvation to their devotees.
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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:41 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Christian God "is described as a being that was once born."

They make a big point of it, in fact.

Jesus had pre-existed before His earthly birth; in fact, He once said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"

Ya know, since He's God and all that.

And yet he was once born. So what's your point?

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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:42 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:...Because, the two are incompatible? Honestly you should be trying to prove to me that they are the same, since the religions that adhere to them are completely different.

From the perspective of comparative mythology, the two are quite similar. Both are absolute, supreme Gods, both once incarnated on Earth, and both bring salvation to their devotees.

Similar doesn't mean exactly the same.
17 year-old Conservative Reformed Baptist
“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

Saved...

Sola Gratia (by grace alone)
Sola Fide (through faith alone)
Solus Christus (in Christ alone)
Sola Scriptura (according to scripture alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (for the glory of God alone)

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Postby New Axiom » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:42 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
Naw, that's Gods son. God himself, it says in the bible, has always existed.

You deny the divinity of Jesus?


No
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:43 pm

New Axiom wrote:Prussia, with that logic, I could ask you to prove to me that your God isn't Athena.

Indeed you could, and it would be totally justified.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:44 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:From the perspective of comparative mythology, the two are quite similar. Both are absolute, supreme Gods, both once incarnated on Earth, and both bring salvation to their devotees.

Similar doesn't mean exactly the same.

They aren't described the exact same way. But perhaps Krishna and God are the same being interpreted in different ways.
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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:44 pm

New Axiom wrote:
The Tungsten Horde wrote:You deny the divinity of Jesus?


No

So then the Christian God was once born. What's the issue here?

It's not like Krishna didn't exist before he was born.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:44 pm

New Axiom wrote:
The Tungsten Horde wrote:You deny the divinity of Jesus?

No

Do you think Christ and the Father are separate entities?
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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:44 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:Jesus had pre-existed before His earthly birth; in fact, He once said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"

Ya know, since He's God and all that.

And yet he was once born. So what's your point?

My point is that the two theologies can't coexist. Just because they have a few similarities it doesn't mean they're the same exact thing.
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“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

Saved...

Sola Gratia (by grace alone)
Sola Fide (through faith alone)
Solus Christus (in Christ alone)
Sola Scriptura (according to scripture alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (for the glory of God alone)

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Postby Lennia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:45 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Gim wrote:He is omnipotent. I think that is what he is saying.

...but if he was omnipotent, he could destroy himself, right? If he can do anything, he could fail.


No. If God was omnipotent, he could do anything that could POSSIBLY be done.

If God is eternal/infinite, it is not possible to destroy him.

Therefore he can be omnipotent but still not be able to will himself out of existence/create a stone even he cannot lift/whatever.

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Postby Grand Calvert » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:45 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Axiom wrote:No

Do you think Christ and the Father are separate entities?

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17 year-old Conservative Reformed Baptist
“So when the devil throws your sins in your face and declares that you deserve death and hell, tell him this: "I admit that I deserve death and hell, what of it? For I know One who suffered and made satisfaction on my behalf. His name is Jesus Christ, Son of God, and where He is there I shall be also!” -Martin Luther

Saved...

Sola Gratia (by grace alone)
Sola Fide (through faith alone)
Solus Christus (in Christ alone)
Sola Scriptura (according to scripture alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (for the glory of God alone)

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