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The Tungsten Horde (Ancient)
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Postby The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:27 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Aha, so you're going to burn both in Catholic hell for rejecting the Holy Church, and in Islamic hell for rejecting the prophet Muhammad. And in dozens of other hells from dozens of other religions as well.
Sorry bro, that's just how it is.

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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:05 am

Men, people are killing each other there
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:08 am

Korhal IVV wrote:Men, people are killing each other there

Context? Otherwise this seems pretty incoherent.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:09 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Bentrada wrote:Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

It's really convenient how religion has maneuvered itself into a literally un-disprovable position since the vast majority of the God of the Gaps has been demolished.

It annoys me to no end.

Anyway, I don't like killing things, but the god of the Bible seems pretty horrid, so I guess I'll take one for the team.
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Letrastan
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Postby Letrastan » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:11 am

If God turned out to be real, and met me at the door, then OF COURSE I WOULDN'T RISK BREAKING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE JUST TO MAINTAIN MY STATUS AS AN ATHEIST!
Common sense, guys.
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Herrebrugh
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Postby Herrebrugh » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:12 am

Letrastan wrote:If God turned out to be real, and met me at the door, then OF COURSE I WOULDN'T RISK BREAKING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE JUST TO MAINTAIN MY STATUS AS AN ATHEIST!
Common sense, guys.

Who says killing him would break the universe?

By the way, you'd lose your status as an atheist the second you would meet him at the door.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:15 am

God seldom intervenes in natural processes, at least not nowadays. In the Biblical days, He does intervenes a lot in Israel as well in the Acts. Miracles happened then, nowadays He does that very rarely, if ever.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:18 am

Korhal IVV wrote:God seldom intervenes in natural processes, at least not nowadays. In the Biblical days, He does intervenes a lot in Israel as well in the Acts. Miracles happened then, nowadays He does that very rarely, if ever.

How convenient.
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Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:35 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:God seldom intervenes in natural processes, at least not nowadays. In the Biblical days, He does intervenes a lot in Israel as well in the Acts. Miracles happened then, nowadays He does that very rarely, if ever.

How convenient.

He's just recharging his mana.
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Postby Ugatoo » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:04 am

God the guy who says discrimination is a good thing, created Hell and allowed for human suffering?

Yeah fuck that guy.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:29 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?

That kind of people get the lightest punishment. The aborted unborn and young children go to Heaven because nowhere in the Bible is infant damnation found. Those who reject get the heaviest punishment.


THen the best thing you can do is make sure no one knows about Jesus. If that is the case then you are the ones who are making them go to hell.
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Reutoa
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Postby Reutoa » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:31 am

No, I'm afraid of what would happen next.

But:
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Postby Ugatoo » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:34 am

Reutoa wrote:This is Offensive

No thinking it's okay to discriminate against a group of people because a book of fairy tales tells you it's okay if offensive.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:34 am

Reutoa wrote:This is Offensive

There's the door ----^
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Postby Thervingia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:18 pm

I consider myself an agnostic atheist. But were I to believe in god, then no. I wouldn't kill it. God would exist in a plane far beyond our own understand, beyond any possible human comprehension, to the point where its very existence is irrelevant; and anyway, it weaves the cosmos as it wills, and we are barely particles in the scale of everything. So who am I to even ponder on the destruction of god? God would be something beyond everything; it would be everything. I don't think you can even hypothetically kill it.
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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:13 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:People must repent. Otherwise God won't forgive them.

Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?

That is why we evangelize
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:15 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?

That is why we evangelize

Didn't really answer the question though did you?
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:16 pm

Ugatoo wrote:God the guy who says discrimination is a good thing, created Hell and allowed for human suffering?

Yeah fuck that guy.

Hell is also for the demons and Satan(those who deserve it the most, and its 100% impossible to rehab them).Not just the humans who rejected Jesus.

God Never advoacted discrimination based on race, sex, culture, nationality, and religion.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:19 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Ugatoo wrote:God the guy who says discrimination is a good thing, created Hell and allowed for human suffering?

Yeah fuck that guy.

Hell is also for the demons and Satan(those who deserve it the most, and its 100% impossible to rehab them).Not just the humans who rejected Jesus.

God Never advoacted discrimination based on race, sex, culture, nationality, and religion.

He wasn't that pleased with the gays though was he.

Or women really....
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Postby Zoice » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:23 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Ugatoo wrote:God the guy who says discrimination is a good thing, created Hell and allowed for human suffering?

Yeah fuck that guy.

Hell is also for the demons and Satan(those who deserve it the most, and its 100% impossible to rehab them).Not just the humans who rejected Jesus.

God Never advoacted discrimination based on race, sex, culture, nationality, and religion.

Except for all the times he did.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:27 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Hell is also for the demons and Satan(those who deserve it the most, and its 100% impossible to rehab them).Not just the humans who rejected Jesus.

God Never advoacted discrimination based on race, sex, culture, nationality, and religion.

He wasn't that pleased with the gays though was he.

Or women really....

Ruth, Sarah, Mary. He has honored women many multiple times. I won't name them all here...
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Postby Shaggai » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:41 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Letrastan wrote:If God turned out to be real, and met me at the door, then OF COURSE I WOULDN'T RISK BREAKING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE JUST TO MAINTAIN MY STATUS AS AN ATHEIST!
Common sense, guys.

Who says killing him would break the universe?

By the way, you'd lose your status as an atheist the second you would meet him at the door.

Well, the majority of Christians do, and the general assumption in this thread (and in the OP, but the thread is more important) is that it's the Christian God at stake here.
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Postby Zoice » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:08 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Alvecia wrote:He wasn't that pleased with the gays though was he.

Or women really....

Ruth, Sarah, Mary. He has honored women many multiple times. I won't name them all here...

A relative few being honoured doesn't do much to counteract the subjugation of women overall, and that's just sexism.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:11 pm

Zoice wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:Ruth, Sarah, Mary. He has honored women many multiple times. I won't name them all here...

A relative few being honoured doesn't do much to counteract the subjugation of women overall, and that's just sexism.

Whatever.
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Postby Ugatoo » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:15 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Zoice wrote:A relative few being honoured doesn't do much to counteract the subjugation of women overall, and that's just sexism.

Whatever.

And let's not even mention the gays amirite?
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