Would You Kill God?

[Alvecia]

You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.

If he is all powerful, the he has the power to be killed by humans.

[Bentrada]

You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.

If he is all powerful, the he has the power to be killed by humans.

This sounds like another paradox.

[Atramentar]

You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.

The Christian god could be killed in a metaphorical sense, the same way the gods of older religions were. Exploit some social upheaval, base the new faith on one already fairly popular, employ victim complex by claiming persecution, capitalise on some influential converts, appropriate pre-existing cultural traditions, celebrations, and figures; murder opponents in places that are safely devout utilising extremist sects - be sure to apologise centuries later, reform and spread through schisms so as to include various edits and versions of the "unmitigated (yet differently interpreted, but let's ignore that) word" of the new god, and voilà! Older gods are dead and a fresh one installed.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Source for degrees of punishment?

Also, out of curiosity, you're a Protestant, correct? Calvinist or Arminian?

Protestant. Evangelical.

Okay. Calvinist or Arminian?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

At
Any
Fucking
Time
Possible.
I mean if he exists.
Imagine how many souls would be liberated from his slavery, tyranny, bipolarity...

Ayy, the world would be free.

We could finally learn to THINK before believing, acting and doing.

Humanity is foolish at moral decisions

Like outlawing slavery.

Silly mortals, going against God's will.

[Gim]

You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.

If he is all powerful, the he has the power to be killed by humans.

Uh...how exactly does....why?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

If he is all powerful, the he has the power to be killed by humans.

Uh...how exactly does....why?

If he doesn't, he's not omnipotent.

[Bentrada]

Uh...how exactly does....why?

If he doesn't, he's not omnipotent.

Apparently there are different types of omnipotence. If God cannot let himself be killed by humans, then he at most a type 3 and not absolutely omnipotent.

[Alvecia]

If he doesn't, he's not omnipotent.

Apparently there are different types of omnipotence. If God cannot let himself be killed by humans, then he at most a type 3 and not absolutely omnipotent.

Absolute omnipotence implies they can do literally anything. So it is indeed possible for God to die, it is possible for god to then resurrect. It is possible for God to create a rock that he cannot lift. It is also possible for God to lift that rock.
God can be paradoxical because omnipotence includes the power to be paradoxical.

[Bentrada]

Apparently there are different types of omnipotence. If God cannot let himself be killed by humans, then he at most a type 3 and not absolutely omnipotent.

Absolute omnipotence implies they can do literally anything. So it is indeed possible for God to die, it is possible for god to then resurrect. It is possible for God to create a rock that he cannot lift. It is also possible for God to lift that rock.
God can be paradoxical because omnipotence includes the power to be paradoxical.

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

[North Arkana]

Absolute omnipotence implies they can do literally anything. So it is indeed possible for God to die, it is possible for god to then resurrect. It is possible for God to create a rock that he cannot lift. It is also possible for God to lift that rock.
God can be paradoxical because omnipotence includes the power to be paradoxical.

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

Or that's just a convenient handwave to justify blind belief in something which can't be proven or entirely disproven. But then again, the burden of proof isn't on the ones looking to disprove.

[Bentrada]

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

Or that's just a convenient handwave to justify blind belief in something which can't be proven or entirely disproven. But then again, the burden of proof isn't on the ones looking to disprove.

I don't get what your post is playing at.

[Syrixia]

Yes, because if a random old guy comes up to my door and says he's God, I'll knock his block off for the lols.

Fellow TNPer, that seems to be the common response, since I'd be laughing as well, but ancient people did that, when Jesus came, and they were totally duped.

Which is why he shoulda proved it better, by, like, turning into a unicorn and screwing a cloud. Idk.

[Alvecia]

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

Or that's just a convenient handwave to justify blind belief in something which can't be proven or entirely disproven. But then again, the burden of proof isn't on the ones looking to disprove.

I agree completely

[Alvecia]

Absolute omnipotence implies they can do literally anything. So it is indeed possible for God to die, it is possible for god to then resurrect. It is possible for God to create a rock that he cannot lift. It is also possible for God to lift that rock.
God can be paradoxical because omnipotence includes the power to be paradoxical.

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

Exactly. God is illogical and irrational, and as such cannot ever be proven or is not the God as described. Either way, I see no reason to believe.

[Immoren]

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

Exactly. God is illogical and irrational, and as such cannot ever be proven or is not the God as described. Either way, I see no reason to believe.

Clearly Azathoth is the god.

[Christiaanistan]

I am certain that an administrative solution is doable.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Absolute omnipotence implies they can do literally anything. So it is indeed possible for God to die, it is possible for god to then resurrect. It is possible for God to create a rock that he cannot lift. It is also possible for God to lift that rock.
God can be paradoxical because omnipotence includes the power to be paradoxical.

Exactly.

God can defy all logic because omnipotence is above logic.

It's really convenient how religion has maneuvered itself into a literally un-disprovable position since the vast majority of the God of the Gaps has been demolished.

[The Enclave Government]

Yes.

Killed billions of people for no real reason, sentenced most of humanity to ignorance and stunted technological progress.

[Korhal IVV]

Humanity is foolish at moral decisions

Like outlawing slavery.

Silly mortals, going against God's will.

The slaves in ancient Hebrew society have more rights than other slaves in their time. Male slaves are even allowed to marry their master's daughter.

Just read those theology articles concerning slavery, I have to do important things now.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Like outlawing slavery.

Silly mortals, going against God's will.

The slaves in ancient Hebrew society have more rights than other slaves in their time. Male slaves are even allowed to marry their master's daughter.

Just read those theology articles concerning slavery, I have to do important things now.

Slavery is slavery. And I'm referring to what Paul wrote.

You're either a slavery apologist or you're not. God was totally cool with it.

[The Enclave Government]

The slaves in ancient Hebrew society have more rights than other slaves in their time. Male slaves are even allowed to marry their master's daughter.

Just read those theology articles concerning slavery, I have to do important things now.

Slavery is slavery. And I'm referring to what Paul wrote.

You're either a slavery apologist or you're not. God was totally cool with it.

God was also cool with LSD. And bath salts.

[Baltenstein]

Source for degrees of punishment?

Also, out of curiosity, you're a Protestant, correct? Calvinist or Arminian?

Protestant. Evangelical.

Aha, so you're going to burn both in Catholic hell for rejecting the Holy Church, and in Islamic hell for rejecting the prophet Muhammad. And in dozens of other hells from dozens of other religions as well.
Sorry bro, that's just how it is.

[Gim]

Yes.

Killed billions of people for no real reason, sentenced most of humanity to ignorance and stunted technological progress.

Well, it's not really "no reason", but reason we have not ascertained yet.

[Korhal IVV]

Protestant. Evangelical.

Aha, so you're going to burn both in Catholic hell for rejecting the Holy Church, and in Islamic hell for rejecting the prophet Muhammad. And in dozens of other hells from dozens of other religions as well.
Sorry bro, that's just how it is.