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Would You Kill God?

Yes
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No
421
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:35 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:If this being was capable of death, how can you be certain it is even a god?


Even gods bleed and even gods have their time and their place in the heavenly order, that can be challenged. *nods*
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Hardened Pyrokinetics
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:42 pm

Immoren wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:If this being was capable of death, how can you be certain it is even a god?


Even gods bleed and even gods have their time and their place in the heavenly order, that can be challenged. *nods*

I had an amazing post ready to go and the guy I was replying to deleted his post before I could post it, and so I come back to this instead and I don't have the energy to be all philosophical and shit.

God doesn't bleed. /thread
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:45 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Even gods bleed and even gods have their time and their place in the heavenly order, that can be challenged. *nods*

I had an amazing post ready to go and the guy I was replying to deleted his post before I could post it, and so I come back to this instead and I don't have the energy to be all philosophical and shit.

God doesn't bleed. /thread


You just need to find good enough gear and get good enough training.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Hardened Pyrokinetics
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:46 pm

Immoren wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:I had an amazing post ready to go and the guy I was replying to deleted his post before I could post it, and so I come back to this instead and I don't have the energy to be all philosophical and shit.

God doesn't bleed. /thread


You just need to find good enough gear and get good enough training.

Life is not an RPG! DX
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:47 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
Immoren wrote:Even gods bleed and even gods have their time and their place in the heavenly order, that can be challenged. *nods*

I had an amazing post ready to go and the guy I was replying to deleted his post before I could post it, and so I come back to this instead and I don't have the energy to be all philosophical and shit.

God doesn't bleed. /thread

Was it mine?

You know you could've just used ctrl + c, hit ctrl + v into a new post box, and deleted the "p=" bit of the quote tag, right?
Actually, I think even just deleting the "p=" bit might've worked. I don't remember.
Last edited by Conscentia on Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:47 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
Immoren wrote:
You just need to find good enough gear and get good enough training.

Life is not an RPG! DX


Not with that attitude.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:25 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Or you know, God could get off his lazy ass and just forgive everyone for his mistakes :lol2:

People must repent. Otherwise God won't forgive them.

Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:26 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Even gods bleed and even gods have their time and their place in the heavenly order, that can be challenged. *nods*

I had an amazing post ready to go and the guy I was replying to deleted his post before I could post it, and so I come back to this instead and I don't have the energy to be all philosophical and shit.

God doesn't bleed. /thread

You might still be able to go back and post it. Just take the numbers out. Like [quote="Person"]
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Grafulk Shayneshall
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Postby Grafulk Shayneshall » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:29 pm

Yes, for the tribes neighbouring ancient Israel.

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Gim
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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:43 pm

Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:Yes, for the tribes neighbouring ancient Israel.


They'd just ignore the presence of God, not necessarily kill Him.
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Grafulk Shayneshall
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Postby Grafulk Shayneshall » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:45 pm

Gim wrote:
Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:Yes, for the tribes neighbouring ancient Israel.


They'd just ignore the presence of God, not necessarily kill Him.

I'm more talking about the fact that the book says he ordered the Israelites to commit several genocides against neighbouring tribes. Thus, vengeance for them.

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Hardened Pyrokinetics
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:17 pm

Immoren wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:Life is not an RPG! DX


Not with that attitude.

Damn you Immoren!

Conscentia wrote:Was it mine?

You know you could've just used ctrl + c, hit ctrl + v into a new post box, and deleted the "p=" bit of the quote tag, right?
Actually, I think even just deleting the "p=" bit might've worked. I don't remember.
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You might still be able to go back and post it. Just take the numbers out. Like
Person wrote:

First off, yes.

Secondly, too late now, I didn't save the draft.
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Gim
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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:55 pm

Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:
Gim wrote:
They'd just ignore the presence of God, not necessarily kill Him.

I'm more talking about the fact that the book says he ordered the Israelites to commit several genocides against neighbouring tribes. Thus, vengeance for them.


You mean their descendants? That is not senseless at all.
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:00 pm

Gim wrote:
Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:I'm more talking about the fact that the book says he ordered the Israelites to commit several genocides against neighbouring tribes. Thus, vengeance for them.

You mean their descendants? That is not senseless at all.

Agreed. It wouldn't be senseless to kill God so he couldn't order such things anymore.

That's justice.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:22 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:People must repent. Otherwise God won't forgive them.

Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?

That kind of people get the lightest punishment. The aborted unborn and young children go to Heaven because nowhere in the Bible is infant damnation found. Those who reject get the heaviest punishment.
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:54 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why? What if they didn't know they had to repent, had never even heard of Jesus?

That kind of people get the lightest punishment. The aborted unborn and young children go to Heaven because nowhere in the Bible is infant damnation found. Those who reject get the heaviest punishment.

Source for degrees of punishment?

Also, out of curiosity, you're a Protestant, correct? Calvinist or Arminian?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:16 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:That kind of people get the lightest punishment. The aborted unborn and young children go to Heaven because nowhere in the Bible is infant damnation found. Those who reject get the heaviest punishment.

Source for degrees of punishment?

Also, out of curiosity, you're a Protestant, correct? Calvinist or Arminian?

Protestant. Evangelical.
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Against: Adding 100 genders, Gay marriage in a church, heresy, Nazism, abortion for no good reason, anti-vaxxers, SJW liberals, and indecency
This nation does reflect my real-life beliefs.
My vocabulary is stranger than a Tzeentchian sorceror. Bare with me.

"Whatever a person may be like, we must still love them because we love God." ~ John Calvin

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Bentrada
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Postby Bentrada » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:44 am

You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.

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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:45 am

Bentrada wrote:You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.


Just wait until my Paradox Machine is ready.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:46 am

Immoren wrote:
Bentrada wrote:You couldn't kill the Christian God.

He is described as being omnipotent and omniscient, this means you can't do jack shit to him. Even if you were omnipotent and omniscient yourself, you still couldn't kill him. The only thing that kill a being like God is God himself, and that may not be possible. That actually sounds like a paradox.


Just wait until my Paradox Machine is ready.

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"Whatever a person may be like, we must still love them because we love God." ~ John Calvin

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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:00 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Just wait until my Paradox Machine is ready.

Heretic


Well as the song says "Uncrusaders, heretics to all faith."
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Huda
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Postby Huda » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:02 am

Never.

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The Neo United Voices Of Humankind
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Postby The Neo United Voices Of Humankind » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:08 am

At
Any
Fucking
Time
Possible.
I mean if he exists.
Imagine how many souls would be liberated from his slavery, tyranny, bipolarity...

Ayy, the world would be free.

We could finally learn to THINK before believing, acting and doing.
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Korhal IVV
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:42 am

The Neo United Voices Of Humankind wrote:At
Any
Fucking
Time
Possible.
I mean if he exists.
Imagine how many souls would be liberated from his slavery, tyranny, bipolarity...

Ayy, the world would be free.

We could finally learn to THINK before believing, acting and doing.

Humanity is foolish at moral decisions
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This nation does reflect my real-life beliefs.
My vocabulary is stranger than a Tzeentchian sorceror. Bare with me.

"Whatever a person may be like, we must still love them because we love God." ~ John Calvin

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North Arkana
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Postby North Arkana » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:13 am

Korhal IVV wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Source for degrees of punishment?

Also, out of curiosity, you're a Protestant, correct? Calvinist or Arminian?

Protestant. Evangelical.

:palm:
That explains so much, actually.
"I don't know everything, just the things I know"

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